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I'm not using any LLM or "AI" for anything that I write or draw.

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  • Em :official_verified:E This user is from outside of this forum
    Em :official_verified:E This user is from outside of this forum
    Em :official_verified:
    wrote last edited by
    #1

    I'm not using any LLM or "AI" for anything that I write or draw. Never had, and never will.

    I'm making this choice because:

    • This technology was built by unethically stealing the hard work of millions without any consent or compensation.

    • This technology has and is still constantly scraping data, including personal data, from people without their knowledge or consent, in complete disregard of the privacy laws we have to protect us.

    • This technology unnecessarily uses vast amounts of energy in a world where using more energy sadly usually means more pollution.

    • This technology is working on devaluating labor in order to enrich even more the already rich, aggravating poverty everywhere.

    • This technology is misleadingly being sold as a solution to problems it cannot solve.

    • This technology is supercharging disinformation and manipulation online, centralizing an incredible power of influence in the hands of a few controlling billionaires.

    • This technology is increasingly being used by authoritarian governments in order to surveil and control the people.

    • This technology atrophies our creativity and capability to think, as well as harming our social relationships.

    • This technology makes my writing voice feel flat and boring. I'd rather learn to live with my human tipos.

    • This technology...

    #NoAI

    Raphael AlbertR Bernd Paysan R.I.P Natenom 🕯️F FrankF RRBR Martin RustM 16 Replies Last reply
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    • Em :official_verified:E Em :official_verified:

      I'm not using any LLM or "AI" for anything that I write or draw. Never had, and never will.

      I'm making this choice because:

      • This technology was built by unethically stealing the hard work of millions without any consent or compensation.

      • This technology has and is still constantly scraping data, including personal data, from people without their knowledge or consent, in complete disregard of the privacy laws we have to protect us.

      • This technology unnecessarily uses vast amounts of energy in a world where using more energy sadly usually means more pollution.

      • This technology is working on devaluating labor in order to enrich even more the already rich, aggravating poverty everywhere.

      • This technology is misleadingly being sold as a solution to problems it cannot solve.

      • This technology is supercharging disinformation and manipulation online, centralizing an incredible power of influence in the hands of a few controlling billionaires.

      • This technology is increasingly being used by authoritarian governments in order to surveil and control the people.

      • This technology atrophies our creativity and capability to think, as well as harming our social relationships.

      • This technology makes my writing voice feel flat and boring. I'd rather learn to live with my human tipos.

      • This technology...

      #NoAI

      Raphael AlbertR This user is from outside of this forum
      Raphael AlbertR This user is from outside of this forum
      Raphael Albert
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      @Em0nM4stodon
      You're so right! BRaINs™️ for the win!

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      • Em :official_verified:E Em :official_verified:

        I'm not using any LLM or "AI" for anything that I write or draw. Never had, and never will.

        I'm making this choice because:

        • This technology was built by unethically stealing the hard work of millions without any consent or compensation.

        • This technology has and is still constantly scraping data, including personal data, from people without their knowledge or consent, in complete disregard of the privacy laws we have to protect us.

        • This technology unnecessarily uses vast amounts of energy in a world where using more energy sadly usually means more pollution.

        • This technology is working on devaluating labor in order to enrich even more the already rich, aggravating poverty everywhere.

        • This technology is misleadingly being sold as a solution to problems it cannot solve.

        • This technology is supercharging disinformation and manipulation online, centralizing an incredible power of influence in the hands of a few controlling billionaires.

        • This technology is increasingly being used by authoritarian governments in order to surveil and control the people.

        • This technology atrophies our creativity and capability to think, as well as harming our social relationships.

        • This technology makes my writing voice feel flat and boring. I'd rather learn to live with my human tipos.

        • This technology...

        #NoAI

        Bernd Paysan R.I.P Natenom 🕯️F This user is from outside of this forum
        Bernd Paysan R.I.P Natenom 🕯️F This user is from outside of this forum
        Bernd Paysan R.I.P Natenom 🕯️
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        @Em0nM4stodon My guess is that within a few years, unscrupulous lawyers will sue you if you have an AI generated image uploaded somewhere, because you infringed the copyright of their clients, who's material was used for training the AI without their consent.

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        • Em :official_verified:E Em :official_verified:

          I'm not using any LLM or "AI" for anything that I write or draw. Never had, and never will.

          I'm making this choice because:

          • This technology was built by unethically stealing the hard work of millions without any consent or compensation.

          • This technology has and is still constantly scraping data, including personal data, from people without their knowledge or consent, in complete disregard of the privacy laws we have to protect us.

          • This technology unnecessarily uses vast amounts of energy in a world where using more energy sadly usually means more pollution.

          • This technology is working on devaluating labor in order to enrich even more the already rich, aggravating poverty everywhere.

          • This technology is misleadingly being sold as a solution to problems it cannot solve.

          • This technology is supercharging disinformation and manipulation online, centralizing an incredible power of influence in the hands of a few controlling billionaires.

          • This technology is increasingly being used by authoritarian governments in order to surveil and control the people.

          • This technology atrophies our creativity and capability to think, as well as harming our social relationships.

          • This technology makes my writing voice feel flat and boring. I'd rather learn to live with my human tipos.

          • This technology...

          #NoAI

          FrankF This user is from outside of this forum
          FrankF This user is from outside of this forum
          Frank
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          #4

          @Em0nM4stodon OpenAI is going to implode lol. They don't even make money.

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          • Raphael AlbertR Raphael Albert

            @Em0nM4stodon
            You're so right! BRaINs™️ for the win!

            Em :official_verified:E This user is from outside of this forum
            Em :official_verified:E This user is from outside of this forum
            Em :official_verified:
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            @r_alb 🧠✨

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            • Em :official_verified:E Em :official_verified:

              I'm not using any LLM or "AI" for anything that I write or draw. Never had, and never will.

              I'm making this choice because:

              • This technology was built by unethically stealing the hard work of millions without any consent or compensation.

              • This technology has and is still constantly scraping data, including personal data, from people without their knowledge or consent, in complete disregard of the privacy laws we have to protect us.

              • This technology unnecessarily uses vast amounts of energy in a world where using more energy sadly usually means more pollution.

              • This technology is working on devaluating labor in order to enrich even more the already rich, aggravating poverty everywhere.

              • This technology is misleadingly being sold as a solution to problems it cannot solve.

              • This technology is supercharging disinformation and manipulation online, centralizing an incredible power of influence in the hands of a few controlling billionaires.

              • This technology is increasingly being used by authoritarian governments in order to surveil and control the people.

              • This technology atrophies our creativity and capability to think, as well as harming our social relationships.

              • This technology makes my writing voice feel flat and boring. I'd rather learn to live with my human tipos.

              • This technology...

              #NoAI

              RRBR This user is from outside of this forum
              RRBR This user is from outside of this forum
              RRB
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              @Em0nM4stodon But, Hype! Grift! You will be left behind if everyone else does it! You will die from or pollution anyway!

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              • Em :official_verified:E Em :official_verified:

                I'm not using any LLM or "AI" for anything that I write or draw. Never had, and never will.

                I'm making this choice because:

                • This technology was built by unethically stealing the hard work of millions without any consent or compensation.

                • This technology has and is still constantly scraping data, including personal data, from people without their knowledge or consent, in complete disregard of the privacy laws we have to protect us.

                • This technology unnecessarily uses vast amounts of energy in a world where using more energy sadly usually means more pollution.

                • This technology is working on devaluating labor in order to enrich even more the already rich, aggravating poverty everywhere.

                • This technology is misleadingly being sold as a solution to problems it cannot solve.

                • This technology is supercharging disinformation and manipulation online, centralizing an incredible power of influence in the hands of a few controlling billionaires.

                • This technology is increasingly being used by authoritarian governments in order to surveil and control the people.

                • This technology atrophies our creativity and capability to think, as well as harming our social relationships.

                • This technology makes my writing voice feel flat and boring. I'd rather learn to live with my human tipos.

                • This technology...

                #NoAI

                Martin RustM This user is from outside of this forum
                Martin RustM This user is from outside of this forum
                Martin Rust
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                @Em0nM4stodon Not a single tipo to be spotted all over your post 😆 Perfect style perfect message.

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                • Martin RustM Martin Rust

                  @Em0nM4stodon Not a single tipo to be spotted all over your post 😆 Perfect style perfect message.

                  Em :official_verified:E This user is from outside of this forum
                  Em :official_verified:E This user is from outside of this forum
                  Em :official_verified:
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                  @martinrust No tipo ✌️😁

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                  • Em :official_verified:E Em :official_verified:

                    I'm not using any LLM or "AI" for anything that I write or draw. Never had, and never will.

                    I'm making this choice because:

                    • This technology was built by unethically stealing the hard work of millions without any consent or compensation.

                    • This technology has and is still constantly scraping data, including personal data, from people without their knowledge or consent, in complete disregard of the privacy laws we have to protect us.

                    • This technology unnecessarily uses vast amounts of energy in a world where using more energy sadly usually means more pollution.

                    • This technology is working on devaluating labor in order to enrich even more the already rich, aggravating poverty everywhere.

                    • This technology is misleadingly being sold as a solution to problems it cannot solve.

                    • This technology is supercharging disinformation and manipulation online, centralizing an incredible power of influence in the hands of a few controlling billionaires.

                    • This technology is increasingly being used by authoritarian governments in order to surveil and control the people.

                    • This technology atrophies our creativity and capability to think, as well as harming our social relationships.

                    • This technology makes my writing voice feel flat and boring. I'd rather learn to live with my human tipos.

                    • This technology...

                    #NoAI

                    Everyday FreethoughtE This user is from outside of this forum
                    Everyday FreethoughtE This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @Em0nM4stodon

                    In addition to all of that: It really doesn't work.

                    As a society we are spending more and more money for software that is less predictable and reliable.

                    A lot of people are okay with destroying the planet for something that doesn't work reliably and most people do not want.

                    Anyone with at least two working brain cells should have become anti-LLM and anti-chatbot the instant they understood the concept of hallucinations.

                    #NoAi

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                    • Em :official_verified:E Em :official_verified:

                      I'm not using any LLM or "AI" for anything that I write or draw. Never had, and never will.

                      I'm making this choice because:

                      • This technology was built by unethically stealing the hard work of millions without any consent or compensation.

                      • This technology has and is still constantly scraping data, including personal data, from people without their knowledge or consent, in complete disregard of the privacy laws we have to protect us.

                      • This technology unnecessarily uses vast amounts of energy in a world where using more energy sadly usually means more pollution.

                      • This technology is working on devaluating labor in order to enrich even more the already rich, aggravating poverty everywhere.

                      • This technology is misleadingly being sold as a solution to problems it cannot solve.

                      • This technology is supercharging disinformation and manipulation online, centralizing an incredible power of influence in the hands of a few controlling billionaires.

                      • This technology is increasingly being used by authoritarian governments in order to surveil and control the people.

                      • This technology atrophies our creativity and capability to think, as well as harming our social relationships.

                      • This technology makes my writing voice feel flat and boring. I'd rather learn to live with my human tipos.

                      • This technology...

                      #NoAI

                      TanquistT This user is from outside of this forum
                      TanquistT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @Em0nM4stodon
                      I like the quote from one of Jack Dorsey's employees after being told they have to start using AI: "If it actually worked we'd be using it already."

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                      • TanquistT Tanquist

                        @Em0nM4stodon
                        I like the quote from one of Jack Dorsey's employees after being told they have to start using AI: "If it actually worked we'd be using it already."

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                        @tanquist @Em0nM4stodon then there's those that are all in, like this company in Milwaukee: "We are building an AI-first company." Looking for their AI Enablement & Systems Manager.

                        https://apply.workable.com/wantable-careers/j/6A0697CC2F/

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                        • Em :official_verified:E Em :official_verified:

                          I'm not using any LLM or "AI" for anything that I write or draw. Never had, and never will.

                          I'm making this choice because:

                          • This technology was built by unethically stealing the hard work of millions without any consent or compensation.

                          • This technology has and is still constantly scraping data, including personal data, from people without their knowledge or consent, in complete disregard of the privacy laws we have to protect us.

                          • This technology unnecessarily uses vast amounts of energy in a world where using more energy sadly usually means more pollution.

                          • This technology is working on devaluating labor in order to enrich even more the already rich, aggravating poverty everywhere.

                          • This technology is misleadingly being sold as a solution to problems it cannot solve.

                          • This technology is supercharging disinformation and manipulation online, centralizing an incredible power of influence in the hands of a few controlling billionaires.

                          • This technology is increasingly being used by authoritarian governments in order to surveil and control the people.

                          • This technology atrophies our creativity and capability to think, as well as harming our social relationships.

                          • This technology makes my writing voice feel flat and boring. I'd rather learn to live with my human tipos.

                          • This technology...

                          #NoAI

                          Kerr Avonsen (she/her)K This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Kerr Avonsen (she/her)
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                          @Em0nM4stodon Well-summarised.

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                          • Em :official_verified:E Em :official_verified:

                            I'm not using any LLM or "AI" for anything that I write or draw. Never had, and never will.

                            I'm making this choice because:

                            • This technology was built by unethically stealing the hard work of millions without any consent or compensation.

                            • This technology has and is still constantly scraping data, including personal data, from people without their knowledge or consent, in complete disregard of the privacy laws we have to protect us.

                            • This technology unnecessarily uses vast amounts of energy in a world where using more energy sadly usually means more pollution.

                            • This technology is working on devaluating labor in order to enrich even more the already rich, aggravating poverty everywhere.

                            • This technology is misleadingly being sold as a solution to problems it cannot solve.

                            • This technology is supercharging disinformation and manipulation online, centralizing an incredible power of influence in the hands of a few controlling billionaires.

                            • This technology is increasingly being used by authoritarian governments in order to surveil and control the people.

                            • This technology atrophies our creativity and capability to think, as well as harming our social relationships.

                            • This technology makes my writing voice feel flat and boring. I'd rather learn to live with my human tipos.

                            • This technology...

                            #NoAI

                            Bill ZaumenB This user is from outside of this forum
                            Bill ZaumenB This user is from outside of this forum
                            Bill Zaumen
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                            @Em0nM4stodon It depends on what type of AI and what you use it for. I'm using an AI program, a grammar checker named language tool, but while a talk claims it uses a neural net, others stated the free version is just an expert system. It runs as a server, so I wrote some code to feed it text while tracking line numbers and pruning out equations and coding examples. What it spits back is then turned into compiler-like error messages and I made the corrections manually.

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                            • Bill ZaumenB Bill Zaumen

                              @Em0nM4stodon It depends on what type of AI and what you use it for. I'm using an AI program, a grammar checker named language tool, but while a talk claims it uses a neural net, others stated the free version is just an expert system. It runs as a server, so I wrote some code to feed it text while tracking line numbers and pruning out equations and coding examples. What it spits back is then turned into compiler-like error messages and I made the corrections manually.

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                              @Em0nM4stodon To add a bit more, the AI program I used runs on a desktop computer. It found spastic-typing mistakes such as double commas and some bad editing - changing a noun from singular to plural, getting interrupted by someone with a pressing problem, and then forgetting that I hadn't changed the verb. It probably saved energy - otherwise the computer would have had to be turned on longer due to having to read all that text - over 400 pages - carefully.

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                              • Em :official_verified:E Em :official_verified:

                                I'm not using any LLM or "AI" for anything that I write or draw. Never had, and never will.

                                I'm making this choice because:

                                • This technology was built by unethically stealing the hard work of millions without any consent or compensation.

                                • This technology has and is still constantly scraping data, including personal data, from people without their knowledge or consent, in complete disregard of the privacy laws we have to protect us.

                                • This technology unnecessarily uses vast amounts of energy in a world where using more energy sadly usually means more pollution.

                                • This technology is working on devaluating labor in order to enrich even more the already rich, aggravating poverty everywhere.

                                • This technology is misleadingly being sold as a solution to problems it cannot solve.

                                • This technology is supercharging disinformation and manipulation online, centralizing an incredible power of influence in the hands of a few controlling billionaires.

                                • This technology is increasingly being used by authoritarian governments in order to surveil and control the people.

                                • This technology atrophies our creativity and capability to think, as well as harming our social relationships.

                                • This technology makes my writing voice feel flat and boring. I'd rather learn to live with my human tipos.

                                • This technology...

                                #NoAI

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                                @Em0nM4stodon

                                I dunno. The AI has made me much much more productive as my work involves me learning lots of new technical concepts and software all the time. It reduces a lot of barriers to understanding. I find it hugely helpful, but I do despise AI written content.

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                                • Em :official_verified:E Em :official_verified:

                                  I'm not using any LLM or "AI" for anything that I write or draw. Never had, and never will.

                                  I'm making this choice because:

                                  • This technology was built by unethically stealing the hard work of millions without any consent or compensation.

                                  • This technology has and is still constantly scraping data, including personal data, from people without their knowledge or consent, in complete disregard of the privacy laws we have to protect us.

                                  • This technology unnecessarily uses vast amounts of energy in a world where using more energy sadly usually means more pollution.

                                  • This technology is working on devaluating labor in order to enrich even more the already rich, aggravating poverty everywhere.

                                  • This technology is misleadingly being sold as a solution to problems it cannot solve.

                                  • This technology is supercharging disinformation and manipulation online, centralizing an incredible power of influence in the hands of a few controlling billionaires.

                                  • This technology is increasingly being used by authoritarian governments in order to surveil and control the people.

                                  • This technology atrophies our creativity and capability to think, as well as harming our social relationships.

                                  • This technology makes my writing voice feel flat and boring. I'd rather learn to live with my human tipos.

                                  • This technology...

                                  #NoAI

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                                  @Em0nM4stodon this technology makes you stupider.

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                                  • Em :official_verified:E Em :official_verified:

                                    I'm not using any LLM or "AI" for anything that I write or draw. Never had, and never will.

                                    I'm making this choice because:

                                    • This technology was built by unethically stealing the hard work of millions without any consent or compensation.

                                    • This technology has and is still constantly scraping data, including personal data, from people without their knowledge or consent, in complete disregard of the privacy laws we have to protect us.

                                    • This technology unnecessarily uses vast amounts of energy in a world where using more energy sadly usually means more pollution.

                                    • This technology is working on devaluating labor in order to enrich even more the already rich, aggravating poverty everywhere.

                                    • This technology is misleadingly being sold as a solution to problems it cannot solve.

                                    • This technology is supercharging disinformation and manipulation online, centralizing an incredible power of influence in the hands of a few controlling billionaires.

                                    • This technology is increasingly being used by authoritarian governments in order to surveil and control the people.

                                    • This technology atrophies our creativity and capability to think, as well as harming our social relationships.

                                    • This technology makes my writing voice feel flat and boring. I'd rather learn to live with my human tipos.

                                    • This technology...

                                    #NoAI

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                                    @Em0nM4stodon

                                    ...spends tonnes of electricity and water to do something that you could probably do in five minutes?

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                                      @Em0nM4stodon

                                      In addition to all of that: It really doesn't work.

                                      As a society we are spending more and more money for software that is less predictable and reliable.

                                      A lot of people are okay with destroying the planet for something that doesn't work reliably and most people do not want.

                                      Anyone with at least two working brain cells should have become anti-LLM and anti-chatbot the instant they understood the concept of hallucinations.

                                      #NoAi

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                                      @EFreethought @Em0nM4stodon

                                      When does a cognitive crutch morph into a cognitive dependency? Or then to a cognitive prison?

                                      Like a dependency on cocaine, lots of people delude themselves they can avoid addiction, until their supply gets too expensive or unavailable.

                                      Watching people go cold turkey during the height of the covid pandemic was reportedly horrific.

                                      What happens when the LLM is manipulated to give only Republican viewpoints? Or only antivaxxer ideology?

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                                        @EFreethought @Em0nM4stodon

                                        When does a cognitive crutch morph into a cognitive dependency? Or then to a cognitive prison?

                                        Like a dependency on cocaine, lots of people delude themselves they can avoid addiction, until their supply gets too expensive or unavailable.

                                        Watching people go cold turkey during the height of the covid pandemic was reportedly horrific.

                                        What happens when the LLM is manipulated to give only Republican viewpoints? Or only antivaxxer ideology?

                                        1/

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                                        Or pro-fossil fuel perspectives? Or pro-evangelical indoctrination? Or pro-slavery history lessons?

                                        What happens to the users of these AI companies when the startup goes bankrupt in the AI bubble? It's stolen data, what happens to the data in a bankruptcy?

                                        What happens when mandated use of an energy wasteful application comes before preventing an ecocide, mass unemployment, or double digit electricity rate increases?

                                        The dependency can be abused to get government bailouts & subsidies.

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                                        • Em :official_verified:E Em :official_verified:

                                          I'm not using any LLM or "AI" for anything that I write or draw. Never had, and never will.

                                          I'm making this choice because:

                                          • This technology was built by unethically stealing the hard work of millions without any consent or compensation.

                                          • This technology has and is still constantly scraping data, including personal data, from people without their knowledge or consent, in complete disregard of the privacy laws we have to protect us.

                                          • This technology unnecessarily uses vast amounts of energy in a world where using more energy sadly usually means more pollution.

                                          • This technology is working on devaluating labor in order to enrich even more the already rich, aggravating poverty everywhere.

                                          • This technology is misleadingly being sold as a solution to problems it cannot solve.

                                          • This technology is supercharging disinformation and manipulation online, centralizing an incredible power of influence in the hands of a few controlling billionaires.

                                          • This technology is increasingly being used by authoritarian governments in order to surveil and control the people.

                                          • This technology atrophies our creativity and capability to think, as well as harming our social relationships.

                                          • This technology makes my writing voice feel flat and boring. I'd rather learn to live with my human tipos.

                                          • This technology...

                                          #NoAI

                                          Zeke 🇨🇦M This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @Em0nM4stodon I could not agree with this post more! Well done!

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