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did my civic duty today:went to a local donut shopnoticed they had a new ring camera up

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  • da_667D da_667

    @Viss good work, brother

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    Viss
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    @da_667 every little bit counts 😄

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    • VissV Viss

      did my civic duty today:
      went to a local donut shop
      noticed they had a new ring camera up.
      i ask the nice hispanic girl behind the counter "hey you know ice can see through that ring camera, right?"
      she goes UHHHH NO WTF I HAVE ONE AT HOME
      "tear it out of the wall. yank the power. ring gives ice free access to those"

      HerndoniteH This user is from outside of this forum
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      @Viss

      https://www.snopes.com/news/2026/01/30/ring-flock-ice-access-camera/

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      • HerndoniteH Herndonite

        @Viss

        https://www.snopes.com/news/2026/01/30/ring-flock-ice-access-camera/

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        @Herndonite

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        • VissV Viss

          @Herndonite

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          @Herndonite but the bigger question, is why are you defending flock and ice?

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          • HerndoniteH Herndonite

            @Viss

            https://www.snopes.com/news/2026/01/30/ring-flock-ice-access-camera/

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            @Viss

            How was posting a discussion of the issue defending Flock and ICE?

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            • HerndoniteH Herndonite

              @Viss

              How was posting a discussion of the issue defending Flock and ICE?

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              @Herndonite framing it as anything other than "ice can see through ring cameras" is softening it, and 100% of the time some rando responds to a thread with nothing but a link to a snopes link, it implies they are "calling bullshit".

              so if i say "ring can see through ice cameras" and you reply with nothing but a link to a snopes article, it implies you are calling bullshit on my statement.

              which in this context means you are defending ring and ice from me.

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              • VissV Viss

                @Herndonite framing it as anything other than "ice can see through ring cameras" is softening it, and 100% of the time some rando responds to a thread with nothing but a link to a snopes link, it implies they are "calling bullshit".

                so if i say "ring can see through ice cameras" and you reply with nothing but a link to a snopes article, it implies you are calling bullshit on my statement.

                which in this context means you are defending ring and ice from me.

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                @Viss
                Sorry. I don't know you and I hadn't heard of this connection between ICE and Ring, so I sought out more information.

                Your post didn't offer any information to back up the Ring/ICE connection ( though you may have in previous posts -- I should have checked) so I after reading the Snopes item which raised plenty of red flags, I linked to it in my reply.

                Perhaps I should have added more context in doing that, so apologize if I offended you.

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                • HerndoniteH Herndonite

                  @Viss
                  Sorry. I don't know you and I hadn't heard of this connection between ICE and Ring, so I sought out more information.

                  Your post didn't offer any information to back up the Ring/ICE connection ( though you may have in previous posts -- I should have checked) so I after reading the Snopes item which raised plenty of red flags, I linked to it in my reply.

                  Perhaps I should have added more context in doing that, so apologize if I offended you.

                  VissV This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @Herndonite well today youve learned that when you post a link to a snopes article and no other explanation thats 'internet speak for':

                  'your statement is bullshit and snopes says youre wrong'

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                  • HerndoniteH Herndonite

                    @Viss
                    Sorry. I don't know you and I hadn't heard of this connection between ICE and Ring, so I sought out more information.

                    Your post didn't offer any information to back up the Ring/ICE connection ( though you may have in previous posts -- I should have checked) so I after reading the Snopes item which raised plenty of red flags, I linked to it in my reply.

                    Perhaps I should have added more context in doing that, so apologize if I offended you.

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                    @Viss
                    Lesson learned.

                    I will add, that I see lots of people posting claims on Mastodon which on reflex I agree with and am tempted to pass along. However, if it is something I have not seen other information on, I will check it out myself. That way I am not unintentionally spreading misinformation.

                    The right has made a meal out of posting lies and spreading unfounded fear knowing that their base will not verify their claims. I think those of us on the other side, should strive to be better.

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                    • Jess👾J Jess👾

                      @Viss At the VERY least, put tape over the camera and cancel your cloud subscription until you can get it replaced

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                      @JessTheUnstill @Viss they control the software. Don't expect that cancelling a cloud subscription prevents them from accessing the device they built and control. It just prevents you from accessing it.

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                      • Simon HewisonZ Simon Hewison

                        @JessTheUnstill @Viss they control the software. Don't expect that cancelling a cloud subscription prevents them from accessing the device they built and control. It just prevents you from accessing it.

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                        @zymurgic @Viss I'm saying for people who aren't handy, it may take some time and go buy a new doorbell and install it. And they probably need a working doorbell in the process. So at least harm reduction.

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                        • Simon HewisonZ Simon Hewison

                          @JessTheUnstill @Viss they control the software. Don't expect that cancelling a cloud subscription prevents them from accessing the device they built and control. It just prevents you from accessing it.

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                          @zymurgic There seems to be a lot of people that think user interfaces run by a company are somehow objective and will do what they say they will.

                          – I pressed the button named ”Delete account”, so I’m safe.

                          – But did you check what the button was connected to?

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                          • VissV Viss

                            @Herndonite

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                            @Viss @Herndonite i dont actually care if its being used by terrorists are using it specifcally to target immegrants or women than if their targeting any other set of people for any other reason, its still being used to help the state beat people up

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                            • Magnus AhltorpA Magnus Ahltorp

                              @zymurgic There seems to be a lot of people that think user interfaces run by a company are somehow objective and will do what they say they will.

                              – I pressed the button named ”Delete account”, so I’m safe.

                              – But did you check what the button was connected to?

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                              @ahltorp @zymurgic very frustraiting trend recently where 'delete account' actually means 'just make it so i cant access it but keep all the data and information you have about me online forevermore'

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                              • VissV Viss

                                did my civic duty today:
                                went to a local donut shop
                                noticed they had a new ring camera up.
                                i ask the nice hispanic girl behind the counter "hey you know ice can see through that ring camera, right?"
                                she goes UHHHH NO WTF I HAVE ONE AT HOME
                                "tear it out of the wall. yank the power. ring gives ice free access to those"

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                                @Viss Does anyone know if Blink cameras (also now part of Amazon) are similarly compromised? I have a couple of them watching my back yard.

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                                • ewhacE ewhac

                                  @Viss Does anyone know if Blink cameras (also now part of Amazon) are similarly compromised? I have a couple of them watching my back yard.

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                                  @ewhac i have not personally seen a bunch of press about it, but if theyre run by amazon, its definitely worth looking into.

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                                  • VissV Viss

                                    did my civic duty today:
                                    went to a local donut shop
                                    noticed they had a new ring camera up.
                                    i ask the nice hispanic girl behind the counter "hey you know ice can see through that ring camera, right?"
                                    she goes UHHHH NO WTF I HAVE ONE AT HOME
                                    "tear it out of the wall. yank the power. ring gives ice free access to those"

                                    M.S. Bellows, Jr.M This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    M.S. Bellows, Jr.
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                                    @Viss Or just put masking tape over the camera.

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                                    • M.S. Bellows, Jr.M M.S. Bellows, Jr.

                                      @Viss Or just put masking tape over the camera.

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                                      @msbellows @Viss

                                      Electrical tape. Works a treat. Especially in places where you can't necessarily control the infrastructure. Hard to spot unless you're looking for it. If you cover a lense and any LEDs just right, most people won't until they do a closer inspection. The real trick is finding camera blind spots so you aren't recorded in the process.

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                                      • Mike MayakM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @503bartley So glad I never liked those cameras.

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                                        • VissV Viss

                                          did my civic duty today:
                                          went to a local donut shop
                                          noticed they had a new ring camera up.
                                          i ask the nice hispanic girl behind the counter "hey you know ice can see through that ring camera, right?"
                                          she goes UHHHH NO WTF I HAVE ONE AT HOME
                                          "tear it out of the wall. yank the power. ring gives ice free access to those"

                                          Kevin RussellK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Kevin Russell
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                                          @Viss

                                          What would be even cooler is to talk to ghe owners to disconnect Ring (etc) cameras from Ring and set them to be used by the resistance instead.

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