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Tim Cook sold Apple's soul

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  • Stone CairnsS Stone Cairns

    @leroy @kevinrenskers

    I'll be honest, I haven't missed banking apps since I moved to GrapheneOS. I carry a credit card and a pass for transit now. One client in the last year has sent me a paper check that required a trip to a particular ATM. Everything else I can do through a browser.

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    @stonetree @leroy My bank requires the use of their app to login and to approve transfers.

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    • Kevin RenskersK Kevin Renskers

      @stonetree @leroy My bank requires the use of their app to login and to approve transfers.

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      @kevinrenskers @leroy

      oof, that's terrible. It reminds me of poor Werner Herzog needing a phone to park.

      https://www.theverge.com/tech/787625/werner-herzogs-smartphone-is-for-parking-lot-emergencies

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      • Kevin RenskersK Kevin Renskers

        Tim Cook sold Apple's soul

        https://www.loopwerk.io/articles/2026/tim-cook-sold-apples-soul/

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        @kevinrenskers apple music is good, but why not switch to Tidal?

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        • Kevin RenskersK Kevin Renskers

          Tim Cook sold Apple's soul

          https://www.loopwerk.io/articles/2026/tim-cook-sold-apples-soul/

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          @kevinrenskers I used to think Tim had character.

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          • Frank’s TingF Frank’s Ting

            @kevinrenskers apple music is good, but why not switch to Tidal?

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            @franksting as I said in the article:

            My family all use it too, and we love to make collaborative playlists for road trips.

            I’m not going to force them to switch to Tidal (I wouldn’t even be able to do so).

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            • Kevin AshworthK Kevin Ashworth

              @kevinrenskers I used to think Tim had character.

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              @kevinashworth Maybe when he posted about George Floyd, but other than that not much comes to mind? He mostly seems like a bean counter who doesn’t speak his mind.

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              • Kevin RenskersK Kevin Renskers

                @franksting as I said in the article:

                My family all use it too, and we love to make collaborative playlists for road trips.

                I’m not going to force them to switch to Tidal (I wouldn’t even be able to do so).

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                @kevinrenskers sorry, my bad for skimming over that bit 🙂

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                • Kevin RenskersK Kevin Renskers

                  Tim Cook sold Apple's soul

                  https://www.loopwerk.io/articles/2026/tim-cook-sold-apples-soul/

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                  @kevinrenskers They still don't unlock iPhones for the government. But please, by all means, enjoy your next U.S. ecosystem.

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                  • Kevin RenskersK Kevin Renskers

                    Tim Cook sold Apple's soul

                    https://www.loopwerk.io/articles/2026/tim-cook-sold-apples-soul/

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                    @kevinrenskers so true in every aspect. …

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                    • Stuart MaxwellS Stuart Maxwell

                      @kevinrenskers at least Google doesn't pretend to care about you! lol

                      I don't rely on any Google services though. I don't use Gmail, or any of the other Google apps. I use Firefox on Android and desktop, Fastmail for mail/calendars/etc. WhatsApp for messaging. It's pretty difficult to avoid all shitty companies, so I try not to rely on any one of them for too much.

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                      @stuartm @kevinrenskers careful with whatsapp, its owned by Meta Platforms Inc. or in other words, facebook. They are very greasy.

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                      • Kevin RenskersK Kevin Renskers

                        Tim Cook sold Apple's soul

                        https://www.loopwerk.io/articles/2026/tim-cook-sold-apples-soul/

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                        @kevinrenskers After reading this it seems save to assume, that Tim Cook is genuinely afraid.

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                        • Kevin RenskersK Kevin Renskers

                          @danielsaidi nice article! I already don’t use Google, Facebook, X, TikTok, PayPal, Instagram, WhatsApp, etc, so I don’t have too many changes to make. But yeah it really sucks Apple is now rotten as well.

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                          @kevinrenskers Thanks, but it dwarfs in comparison with yours 🙂 Big tech has come a long way from the “Make the world a better place” days.

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                          • Kevin RenskersK Kevin Renskers

                            @leroy to be fair I haven’t looked up my specific banks either. No Android Auto is already basically a dead breaker for a de-Googled Android flavor 😕

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                            @kevinrenskers @leroy https://grapheneos.org/usage#android-auto

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                            • tux0r :openbsd:T tux0r :openbsd:

                              @kevinrenskers They still don't unlock iPhones for the government. But please, by all means, enjoy your next U.S. ecosystem.

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                              @tux0r what a strange comment to make when i made it clear I’m looking for an alternative. Which is definitely not Google.

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                              • Kevin RenskersK Kevin Renskers

                                Tim Cook sold Apple's soul

                                https://www.loopwerk.io/articles/2026/tim-cook-sold-apples-soul/

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                                @kevinrenskers Is there a rose gold version available?

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                                • Kevin RenskersK Kevin Renskers

                                  @kevinashworth Maybe when he posted about George Floyd, but other than that not much comes to mind? He mostly seems like a bean counter who doesn’t speak his mind.

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                                  @kevinrenskers @kevinashworth Do you think you'd change your mind if he realises it was once again profitable to pretend to care about social issues?

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                                  • devoluteD devolute

                                    @kevinrenskers @kevinashworth Do you think you'd change your mind if he realises it was once again profitable to pretend to care about social issues?

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                                    @devolute cynical today, are we?

                                    But the answer is no.

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                                    • Kevin RenskersK Kevin Renskers

                                      @devolute cynical today, are we?

                                      But the answer is no.

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                                      @kevinrenskers Respect. I've been cynical since I realised large corporations don't ever have 'souls' and their primary objective is to make money, almost always at the expense of absolutely everything else and I think it's terribly naive to think anything else.

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                                      • devoluteD devolute

                                        @kevinrenskers Respect. I've been cynical since I realised large corporations don't ever have 'souls' and their primary objective is to make money, almost always at the expense of absolutely everything else and I think it's terribly naive to think anything else.

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                                        @devolute I could’ve titled it “Tim Cook sold his own soul to save Apple’s profits”. Maybe that would’ve been more precise.

                                        But he damaged Apple’s reputation alongside his own. And I think calling Apple’s reputation its “soul” isn’t unfair.

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                                        • Kevin RenskersK Kevin Renskers

                                          @stuartm Yeah I just don’t think Google’s any better. Definitely worse when it comes to privacy. I don’t see it as a real option to switch to, which makes me feel trapped. This duopoly sucks.

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                                          @kevinrenskers @stuartm I have been exploring /e/OS on a phone and so far it works fine? My primary annoyance is that in-app purchases do not work (less money to Google, yay!).

                                          In some ways it's a bit of a downgrade. But enough people have to accept a bit of a downgrade so that the alternatives get enough funding to improve.

                                          Best of all, it does not have liquid glass.

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