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Tim Cook sold Apple's soul

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  • LeroyL Leroy

    @kevinrenskers Thank you for writing this. I would like to add another note on “Apple has me trapped”. Banking apps.

    As far as I understand, they don’t exist outside of Google and Apple ecosystems and are crucial infrastructure for everyday life.

    I’m sure more people have similar issues with whatever needs they have in their life.
    (Weirdly, in Canada, certain banking limits are different between web and mobile apps)

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    @leroy @kevinrenskers

    I'll be honest, I haven't missed banking apps since I moved to GrapheneOS. I carry a credit card and a pass for transit now. One client in the last year has sent me a paper check that required a trip to a particular ATM. Everything else I can do through a browser.

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    • Stone CairnsS Stone Cairns

      @leroy @kevinrenskers

      I'll be honest, I haven't missed banking apps since I moved to GrapheneOS. I carry a credit card and a pass for transit now. One client in the last year has sent me a paper check that required a trip to a particular ATM. Everything else I can do through a browser.

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      @stonetree @leroy My bank requires the use of their app to login and to approve transfers.

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      • Kevin RenskersK Kevin Renskers

        @stonetree @leroy My bank requires the use of their app to login and to approve transfers.

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        @kevinrenskers @leroy

        oof, that's terrible. It reminds me of poor Werner Herzog needing a phone to park.

        https://www.theverge.com/tech/787625/werner-herzogs-smartphone-is-for-parking-lot-emergencies

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        • Kevin RenskersK Kevin Renskers

          Tim Cook sold Apple's soul

          https://www.loopwerk.io/articles/2026/tim-cook-sold-apples-soul/

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          @kevinrenskers apple music is good, but why not switch to Tidal?

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          • Kevin RenskersK Kevin Renskers

            Tim Cook sold Apple's soul

            https://www.loopwerk.io/articles/2026/tim-cook-sold-apples-soul/

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            @kevinrenskers I used to think Tim had character.

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            • Frank’s TingF Frank’s Ting

              @kevinrenskers apple music is good, but why not switch to Tidal?

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              @franksting as I said in the article:

              My family all use it too, and we love to make collaborative playlists for road trips.

              I’m not going to force them to switch to Tidal (I wouldn’t even be able to do so).

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              • Kevin AshworthK Kevin Ashworth

                @kevinrenskers I used to think Tim had character.

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                @kevinashworth Maybe when he posted about George Floyd, but other than that not much comes to mind? He mostly seems like a bean counter who doesn’t speak his mind.

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                • Kevin RenskersK Kevin Renskers

                  @franksting as I said in the article:

                  My family all use it too, and we love to make collaborative playlists for road trips.

                  I’m not going to force them to switch to Tidal (I wouldn’t even be able to do so).

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                  @kevinrenskers sorry, my bad for skimming over that bit 🙂

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                  • Kevin RenskersK Kevin Renskers

                    Tim Cook sold Apple's soul

                    https://www.loopwerk.io/articles/2026/tim-cook-sold-apples-soul/

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                    @kevinrenskers They still don't unlock iPhones for the government. But please, by all means, enjoy your next U.S. ecosystem.

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                    • Kevin RenskersK Kevin Renskers

                      Tim Cook sold Apple's soul

                      https://www.loopwerk.io/articles/2026/tim-cook-sold-apples-soul/

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                      @kevinrenskers so true in every aspect. …

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                      • Stuart MaxwellS Stuart Maxwell

                        @kevinrenskers at least Google doesn't pretend to care about you! lol

                        I don't rely on any Google services though. I don't use Gmail, or any of the other Google apps. I use Firefox on Android and desktop, Fastmail for mail/calendars/etc. WhatsApp for messaging. It's pretty difficult to avoid all shitty companies, so I try not to rely on any one of them for too much.

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                        @stuartm @kevinrenskers careful with whatsapp, its owned by Meta Platforms Inc. or in other words, facebook. They are very greasy.

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                        • Kevin RenskersK Kevin Renskers

                          Tim Cook sold Apple's soul

                          https://www.loopwerk.io/articles/2026/tim-cook-sold-apples-soul/

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                          @kevinrenskers After reading this it seems save to assume, that Tim Cook is genuinely afraid.

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                          • Kevin RenskersK Kevin Renskers

                            @danielsaidi nice article! I already don’t use Google, Facebook, X, TikTok, PayPal, Instagram, WhatsApp, etc, so I don’t have too many changes to make. But yeah it really sucks Apple is now rotten as well.

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                            @kevinrenskers Thanks, but it dwarfs in comparison with yours 🙂 Big tech has come a long way from the “Make the world a better place” days.

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                            • Kevin RenskersK Kevin Renskers

                              @leroy to be fair I haven’t looked up my specific banks either. No Android Auto is already basically a dead breaker for a de-Googled Android flavor 😕

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                              @kevinrenskers @leroy https://grapheneos.org/usage#android-auto

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                              • tux0r :openbsd:T tux0r :openbsd:

                                @kevinrenskers They still don't unlock iPhones for the government. But please, by all means, enjoy your next U.S. ecosystem.

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                                @tux0r what a strange comment to make when i made it clear I’m looking for an alternative. Which is definitely not Google.

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                                • Kevin RenskersK Kevin Renskers

                                  Tim Cook sold Apple's soul

                                  https://www.loopwerk.io/articles/2026/tim-cook-sold-apples-soul/

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                                  @kevinrenskers Is there a rose gold version available?

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                                  • Kevin RenskersK Kevin Renskers

                                    @kevinashworth Maybe when he posted about George Floyd, but other than that not much comes to mind? He mostly seems like a bean counter who doesn’t speak his mind.

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                                    @kevinrenskers @kevinashworth Do you think you'd change your mind if he realises it was once again profitable to pretend to care about social issues?

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                                    • devoluteD devolute

                                      @kevinrenskers @kevinashworth Do you think you'd change your mind if he realises it was once again profitable to pretend to care about social issues?

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                                      @devolute cynical today, are we?

                                      But the answer is no.

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                                      • Kevin RenskersK Kevin Renskers

                                        @devolute cynical today, are we?

                                        But the answer is no.

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                                        @kevinrenskers Respect. I've been cynical since I realised large corporations don't ever have 'souls' and their primary objective is to make money, almost always at the expense of absolutely everything else and I think it's terribly naive to think anything else.

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                                        • devoluteD devolute

                                          @kevinrenskers Respect. I've been cynical since I realised large corporations don't ever have 'souls' and their primary objective is to make money, almost always at the expense of absolutely everything else and I think it's terribly naive to think anything else.

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                                          @devolute I could’ve titled it “Tim Cook sold his own soul to save Apple’s profits”. Maybe that would’ve been more precise.

                                          But he damaged Apple’s reputation alongside his own. And I think calling Apple’s reputation its “soul” isn’t unfair.

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