Let's remind everyone what a safe internet actually means.

@gonun13 You block legal porn sites, people will get to illegal porn sites full of potential malware. Or simply to torrents.

Age verification online solves absolutely nothing. Better education is the solution.

On the other hand, blocking social media is a double edged sword. 1: It might keep children safe from toxic behaviour; but they won't learn to recognise such behaviours once they are adults. But i guess once you are an adult you don't matter anymore? Hence, education is the solution.
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@gonun13 2: It might keep them ignorant on important stuff if their education is bad. Some parents are queerphobic, and children discover about queerness only in social media, which is extremely helpful. Some children only get emotional support from social media, as they CANNOT get it in person due to discrimination. This law puts at risk queer children.
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@aubrey EU is doing such software and it's open source. They are very transparent about how it works.

@aubrey True thus we should fight governments with better solutions. But the digital world can't become a lawless place or catered just by big corps.

@rbuzz@mastodon.social @Tutanota@mastodon.social internet should be 80+ only to make it safe for seniors, of course. adults have the chance to make seniors uncomfortable and as such the internet should only consist of seniors.

@TCMuffin @Tutanota My password generator is my hands smashing the keyboard.

@Azarilh I agree Education is key and blocking is a double edged sword.
But the current ecosystem is causing a complete brain rot of an entire generation fueled by big corps and authoritarian regimes. Thus we need to start gatekeeping and moderating some usages or at least creating digital safe networks where devices handled by minors can connect freely. Children should be allowed to grow naturally and not jump start to all the crazy shit adults like to sell.

@Chris2000SP @Tutanota oh dear...

@aubrey
Yes that is true. The Verification by the EU App is 1. on Smartphone only 2. The Credentials are saved on that Smartphone 3. the App Talks every time your're Verify your age with the gov server in a hack of a lot times
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@irisnk Non me l'aspettavo di leggere questo.

@strigga_ @Tutanota
For Refernce that AI Slop thing is that it is posted on accounts and could be blocked entirely if such spam will get posted on platforms. Account Registration can be secured against AI and can be Moderated away. That is Possible and not a Problem if you make it the proper way.

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@ErikUden
...fehlt aber noch....
Pro sicheres Internet: Dezentrale Services
Kontra sicheres Internet: LockIn bei (proprietären) zentralen Diensten.
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@gonun13 Yes, i just don't think outright banning social media to minors is the solution. I'd rather governments fining and eventually blocking specific social media sites if their moderation is inadequate. Also doom scrolling should be illegal, as well as algorithms that promote negative interraction.

Yet no laws about any of that. Blocking social media outright is literally incompetence. Social media sites do all of that stuff cos it's legal.

@Azarilh @abody @Tutanota
Yeah maybe, but that is an other Topic i would say. Secure messaging is a long term goal to reach.

@Azarilh The client software may be open source, but we don't know what's happening on their servers

@aubrey We can know how the software communicates with the servers, what information it gets.

@Azarilh Yes, that is true. But is it actually written, so there is no way to connect your profiles with your identity? I haven't read the source code to be honest

@aubrey I am not sure if it's completely safe, i am waiting for the final version then we can rate it.

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Safer for whom?

@Tutanota Odds are, eVenn this scales.