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Let's remind everyone what a safe internet actually means.

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  • AzarilhⓥA Azarilhⓥ

    @gonun13 You block legal porn sites, people will get to illegal porn sites full of potential malware. Or simply to torrents.

    Age verification online solves absolutely nothing. Better education is the solution.

    On the other hand, blocking social media is a double edged sword. 1: It might keep children safe from toxic behaviour; but they won't learn to recognise such behaviours once they are adults. But i guess once you are an adult you don't matter anymore? Hence, education is the solution.
    1/2

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    @Azarilh I agree Education is key and blocking is a double edged sword.
    But the current ecosystem is causing a complete brain rot of an entire generation fueled by big corps and authoritarian regimes. Thus we need to start gatekeeping and moderating some usages or at least creating digital safe networks where devices handled by minors can connect freely. Children should be allowed to grow naturally and not jump start to all the crazy shit adults like to sell.

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      @strigga_ @Tutanota
      That is Stigmata what you are saying. You are correct on the 3rd but nut on the first 2. The First two has to be regulated and not to be banned. And i mean it also in context of minors. Because you are make it as a Tabu and this is violence the minors indirectly. This is Double Standard if you argument that censoring everything is a good way to protect minors because that will make more victims if that Topics are stigmatized by everyone. That will get more violence not less.

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      @Chris2000SP @Tutanota oh dear...

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        @aubrey
        Yes that is true. The Verification by the EU App is 1. on Smartphone only 2. The Credentials are saved on that Smartphone 3. the App Talks every time your're Verify your age with the gov server in a hack of a lot times
        @gonun13 @soderling

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        • AzarilhⓥA This user is from outside of this forum
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          @irisnk Non me l'aspettavo di leggere questo.

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          • Andre 🌈S Andre 🌈

            @Chris2000SP @Tutanota oh dear...

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            @strigga_ @Tutanota
            For Refernce that AI Slop thing is that it is posted on accounts and could be blocked entirely if such spam will get posted on platforms. Account Registration can be secured against AI and can be Moderated away. That is Possible and not a Problem if you make it the proper way.

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            • TutaT Tuta

              Let's remind everyone what a safe internet actually means. 🌐🌍

              Share this & Spread the word!

              #SaferInternetDay26 #SID

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              @Tutanota
              @ErikUden
              ...fehlt aber noch....
              ✅Pro sicheres Internet: Dezentrale Services
              ❌Kontra sicheres Internet: LockIn bei (proprietären) zentralen Diensten.
              🧐

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              • Nuno GomesG Nuno Gomes

                @Azarilh I agree Education is key and blocking is a double edged sword.
                But the current ecosystem is causing a complete brain rot of an entire generation fueled by big corps and authoritarian regimes. Thus we need to start gatekeeping and moderating some usages or at least creating digital safe networks where devices handled by minors can connect freely. Children should be allowed to grow naturally and not jump start to all the crazy shit adults like to sell.

                AzarilhⓥA This user is from outside of this forum
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                Azarilhⓥ
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                @gonun13 Yes, i just don't think outright banning social media to minors is the solution. I'd rather governments fining and eventually blocking specific social media sites if their moderation is inadequate. Also doom scrolling should be illegal, as well as algorithms that promote negative interraction.

                Yet no laws about any of that. Blocking social media outright is literally incompetence. Social media sites do all of that stuff cos it's legal.

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                • AzarilhⓥA Azarilhⓥ

                  @abody @Tutanota POP/IMAP is not safe tho?

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                  @Azarilh @abody @Tutanota
                  Yeah maybe, but that is an other Topic i would say. Secure messaging is a long term goal to reach.

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                  • AzarilhⓥA Azarilhⓥ

                    @aubrey EU is doing such software and it's open source. They are very transparent about how it works.

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                    @Azarilh The client software may be open source, but we don't know what's happening on their servers

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                    • AubreyA Aubrey

                      @Azarilh The client software may be open source, but we don't know what's happening on their servers

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                      @aubrey We can know how the software communicates with the servers, what information it gets.

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                      • AzarilhⓥA Azarilhⓥ

                        @aubrey We can know how the software communicates with the servers, what information it gets.

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                        @Azarilh Yes, that is true. But is it actually written, so there is no way to connect your profiles with your identity? I haven't read the source code to be honest

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                        • AubreyA Aubrey

                          @Azarilh Yes, that is true. But is it actually written, so there is no way to connect your profiles with your identity? I haven't read the source code to be honest

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                          @aubrey I am not sure if it's completely safe, i am waiting for the final version then we can rate it.

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                          • TutaT Tuta

                            Let's remind everyone what a safe internet actually means. 🌐🌍

                            Share this & Spread the word!

                            #SaferInternetDay26 #SID

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                            @Tutanota

                            Safer for whom?

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                            • TutaT Tuta

                              Let's remind everyone what a safe internet actually means. 🌐🌍

                              Share this & Spread the word!

                              #SaferInternetDay26 #SID

                              Nu ModularN This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @Tutanota Odds are, eVenn this scales.

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                              • TutaT Tuta

                                🔗 Protecting your safety online starts here: https://tuta.com/blog/minimum-password-length

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                                @Tutanota IYPS as one of the apps, where everyone can experiment and check password strength in offline mode. Android version: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.iyps/

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                                • Nu ModularN Nu Modular

                                  @Tutanota Odds are, eVenn this scales.

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                                  @numodular lol, clever, that.

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                                  • AzarilhⓥA Azarilhⓥ

                                    @gonun13 Yes, i just don't think outright banning social media to minors is the solution. I'd rather governments fining and eventually blocking specific social media sites if their moderation is inadequate. Also doom scrolling should be illegal, as well as algorithms that promote negative interraction.

                                    Yet no laws about any of that. Blocking social media outright is literally incompetence. Social media sites do all of that stuff cos it's legal.

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                                    @Azarilh
                                    Azarilh! I cannot emphasize enough how harmful these algorithms and doom scrolling are, robbing you of time to do something meaningful. When will people realize that such dark patterns don't just happen on a splash page? When will people realize what makes people addicted?
                                    @gonun13

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                                    • TutaT Tuta

                                      Let's remind everyone what a safe internet actually means. 🌐🌍

                                      Share this & Spread the word!

                                      #SaferInternetDay26 #SID

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                                      @Tutanota I would add parenting to the first column. Parents, it's not the governments job to police your children.

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                                        @strigga_ @Tutanota
                                        For Refernce that AI Slop thing is that it is posted on accounts and could be blocked entirely if such spam will get posted on platforms. Account Registration can be secured against AI and can be Moderated away. That is Possible and not a Problem if you make it the proper way.

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                                        @Chris2000SP @Tutanota... None of which is encryption, privacy or open source.

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                                        • Théodred BizmpianosT Théodred Bizmpianos

                                          @Tutanota I would add parenting to the first column. Parents, it's not the governments job to police your children.

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                                          @theobizbis
                                          There you have the right solution. All streaming Plattforms and Gaming Platforms have Parenting Profiling and settings that has to be used. That is rolled out by the EU Law to get Parents more Tools to get their chrildren safer. This Tools i discovered already on every Platform i use and i have a lot Platforms discovered and i have it active because of testing it. So please check that Functionalities now!
                                          @Tutanota

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