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Dutch university to start handing out only Fairphones to employees, instead of buying iPhones or Samsung.

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  • πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί Paul Schoonhoven πŸ‹πŸ‰V πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί Paul Schoonhoven πŸ‹πŸ‰

    @wsslmn @Fietsbel @BuyFromEU
    Home assistant proves that it is not necessary (and not even wanted*) to have the data stored online.

    * you want it all to work if the internet is offline... πŸ₯΄πŸ˜‡

    Coen WesselmanW This user is from outside of this forum
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    Coen Wesselman
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    #23

    @vosje62 @Fietsbel @BuyFromEU indeed, but it also means that you have to do some maintenance yourself, which has been fun so far.

    I do have a wish for some more free time to tinker with it, and add some dashboards to track stuff.

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    • Coen WesselmanW Coen Wesselman

      @vosje62 @Fietsbel @BuyFromEU indeed, but it also means that you have to do some maintenance yourself, which has been fun so far.

      I do have a wish for some more free time to tinker with it, and add some dashboards to track stuff.

      πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί Paul Schoonhoven πŸ‹πŸ‰V This user is from outside of this forum
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      πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί Paul Schoonhoven πŸ‹πŸ‰
      wrote last edited by
      #24

      @wsslmn when i switched from cable to 4-5G i had to rearrange my router, so I switched it all off 'for the moment'. (No home assistant here)
      Now .... Many years later they are still offline.. πŸ˜…πŸ˜… and the house is running like clockwork!

      @Fietsbel @BuyFromEU

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      • TrVrT TrVr

        @BuyFromEU and I hope they install @murena e/OS to reduce the dependency of US of A further

        Marco πŸ‡³πŸ‡± πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊM This user is from outside of this forum
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        Marco πŸ‡³πŸ‡± πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί
        wrote last edited by
        #25

        @TrVr @BuyFromEU @murena tap to pay won't work with e/OS. Biggest dealbreaker for me to be honest.
        Is @murena working with EU to make #wero wallet the default maybe?

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        • Marco πŸ‡³πŸ‡± πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊM Marco πŸ‡³πŸ‡± πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί

          @TrVr @BuyFromEU @murena tap to pay won't work with e/OS. Biggest dealbreaker for me to be honest.
          Is @murena working with EU to make #wero wallet the default maybe?

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          wrote last edited by
          #26

          @mfr @BuyFromEU @murena Marco maybe this has to do with the advanced Privacy settings. I need to put it off for the banking apps to work. The great thing about e/OS is you can set this on an app base. So yes the bank will know your IP location and maybe their trackers as well. But other apps get nothing.

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          • BuyFromEUB BuyFromEU

            Dutch university to start handing out only Fairphones to employees, instead of buying iPhones or Samsung.

            source: https://tweakers.net/nieuws/243746/radboud-universiteit-geeft-werknemers-fairphone-smartphones-als-werktelefoon.html

            #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU #FairPhone

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            FediThing :progress_pride:
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            #27

            @BuyFromEU

            I hope @WeAreFairphone has seen this πŸ™‚

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            • BuyFromEUB BuyFromEU

              Dutch university to start handing out only Fairphones to employees, instead of buying iPhones or Samsung.

              source: https://tweakers.net/nieuws/243746/radboud-universiteit-geeft-werknemers-fairphone-smartphones-als-werktelefoon.html

              #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU #FairPhone

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              @iveyline
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              #28

              @BuyFromEU Good move.

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              • Marco πŸ‡³πŸ‡± πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊM Marco πŸ‡³πŸ‡± πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί

                @TrVr @BuyFromEU @murena tap to pay won't work with e/OS. Biggest dealbreaker for me to be honest.
                Is @murena working with EU to make #wero wallet the default maybe?

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                Daniele
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                #29

                @mfr @TrVr @BuyFromEU @murena that looks a very, very minor inconvenience. Yes tap to pay doesn't work unless you use Curve, which is owned by a zionist. I just bring the credit card with me πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

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                • DanieleD Daniele

                  @mfr @TrVr @BuyFromEU @murena that looks a very, very minor inconvenience. Yes tap to pay doesn't work unless you use Curve, which is owned by a zionist. I just bring the credit card with me πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

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                  wrote last edited by
                  #30

                  @danielezomg @TrVr @BuyFromEU @murena for privacy tap to pay is better (yes w/big tech at the moment, but it’s still better than paying with card for that, wero would be ideal eventually). Regardless I won’t switch until my current phone dies, but fairphone is high on my list. I really like that companies (well at least one, more might follow) are having sustainable company phones on their agenda. Otoh the EU is pushing regulation that also forces the big brands to move in the right direction.

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                  • πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί Paul Schoonhoven πŸ‹πŸ‰V πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί Paul Schoonhoven πŸ‹πŸ‰

                    @wsslmn when i switched from cable to 4-5G i had to rearrange my router, so I switched it all off 'for the moment'. (No home assistant here)
                    Now .... Many years later they are still offline.. πŸ˜…πŸ˜… and the house is running like clockwork!

                    @Fietsbel @BuyFromEU

                    Coen WesselmanW This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Coen Wesselman
                    wrote last edited by
                    #31

                    @vosje62 it just works. That's why I'm not a fan of elaborate automations involving stuff that could be controlled with a classic light switch. It is fun to do, but that is about it for me.

                    @Fietsbel @BuyFromEU

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                    • Coen WesselmanW Coen Wesselman

                      @vosje62 it just works. That's why I'm not a fan of elaborate automations involving stuff that could be controlled with a classic light switch. It is fun to do, but that is about it for me.

                      @Fietsbel @BuyFromEU

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                      Fietsbel
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                      #32

                      @wsslmn @vosje62 @BuyFromEU Thatβ€˜s nice, and under better circumstances, it would work also for me. But currently, we don’t know anymore where to stay for our pension age, and we travel between two countries, with an accomodation in each of them, also for family reasons. So we need a certain level of remote control also.

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                      • FietsbelF Fietsbel

                        @wsslmn @vosje62 @BuyFromEU Thatβ€˜s nice, and under better circumstances, it would work also for me. But currently, we don’t know anymore where to stay for our pension age, and we travel between two countries, with an accomodation in each of them, also for family reasons. So we need a certain level of remote control also.

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                        Fietsbel
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                        #33

                        @wsslmn @vosje62 @BuyFromEU My idea would be to develop all necessary apps also for EU-made phones with EU-made OS.

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                        • Alli   πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊA Alli πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί

                          @Fietsbel @vosje62 @wsslmn @BuyFromEU The Android Open Source Project doesn't belong to Google

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                          Fietsbel
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                          #34

                          @alloalli @vosje62 @wsslmn @BuyFromEU Thatβ€˜s not correct: also Android Open Source was developed and is thus owned by Google, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)
                          So, legally, Google could still interfere remotely, I suppose. And Google comes under U.S. law, and you know what that means with the creepy orange in the White House.

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                          • FietsbelF Fietsbel

                            @alloalli @vosje62 @wsslmn @BuyFromEU Thatβ€˜s not correct: also Android Open Source was developed and is thus owned by Google, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)
                            So, legally, Google could still interfere remotely, I suppose. And Google comes under U.S. law, and you know what that means with the creepy orange in the White House.

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                            @Fietsbel @vosje62 @wsslmn @BuyFromEU okay, as long as AOSP stays open source it'll be good

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                            • Alli   πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊA Alli πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί

                              @Fietsbel @vosje62 @wsslmn @BuyFromEU okay, as long as AOSP stays open source it'll be good

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                              Fietsbel
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                              #36

                              @alloalli @vosje62 @wsslmn @BuyFromEU Not exaxtly, because Google could prevent others from using the Open Source code in any way that it considers against its own, or against U.S. interests (under U.S. law). Individuals and companies could potentially face expensive lawsuits under U.S. law, couldnβ€˜t they?

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                              • FietsbelF Fietsbel

                                @alloalli @vosje62 @wsslmn @BuyFromEU Not exaxtly, because Google could prevent others from using the Open Source code in any way that it considers against its own, or against U.S. interests (under U.S. law). Individuals and companies could potentially face expensive lawsuits under U.S. law, couldnβ€˜t they?

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                                Fietsbel
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                                @alloalli @vosje62 @wsslmn @BuyFromEU Don’t get me wrong: Iβ€˜m not against Open Source, just against the digital monopolies by US companies.

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                                • BuyFromEUB BuyFromEU

                                  Dutch university to start handing out only Fairphones to employees, instead of buying iPhones or Samsung.

                                  source: https://tweakers.net/nieuws/243746/radboud-universiteit-geeft-werknemers-fairphone-smartphones-als-werktelefoon.html

                                  #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU #FairPhone

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                                  @BuyFromEU leading the way! Glad to see it

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                                  • BuyFromEUB BuyFromEU

                                    Dutch university to start handing out only Fairphones to employees, instead of buying iPhones or Samsung.

                                    source: https://tweakers.net/nieuws/243746/radboud-universiteit-geeft-werknemers-fairphone-smartphones-als-werktelefoon.html

                                    #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU #FairPhone

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                                    Angela Scholder
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                                    @BuyFromEU Well done for them!

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                                    • BuyFromEUB BuyFromEU

                                      Dutch university to start handing out only Fairphones to employees, instead of buying iPhones or Samsung.

                                      source: https://tweakers.net/nieuws/243746/radboud-universiteit-geeft-werknemers-fairphone-smartphones-als-werktelefoon.html

                                      #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU #FairPhone

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                                      @BuyFromEU Ik heb mij afgelopen december een Fairphone 6 aangeschaft. Ik houd voorlopig Android aan ivm met bank app.

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                                      • FietsbelF Fietsbel

                                        @alloalli @vosje62 @wsslmn @BuyFromEU Don’t get me wrong: Iβ€˜m not against Open Source, just against the digital monopolies by US companies.

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                                        @Fietsbel @alloalli @vosje62 @BuyFromEU this is not what the Open Source license dictates. Yes, android makes it very easy to be activated with a gmail account, but that is not a hard requirement.

                                        The code is maintained by them, not owned under the license, and forks exist and thrive like e/OS.

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                                        • Coen WesselmanW Coen Wesselman

                                          @Fietsbel @alloalli @vosje62 @BuyFromEU this is not what the Open Source license dictates. Yes, android makes it very easy to be activated with a gmail account, but that is not a hard requirement.

                                          The code is maintained by them, not owned under the license, and forks exist and thrive like e/OS.

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                                          Fietsbel
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                                          @wsslmn @alloalli @vosje62 @BuyFromEU The issue is: who maintains and updates the code? On my current iPhone itβ€˜s Apple, with any version of Android, it would be Google, am I right? So there would be a possibility for Google then to intrude into my phone, and the problem would not really be solved, except maybe for experts familiar with the details of the source code. If that level is required: that’s too much, especially for ordinary people without any affinity with science or technology. 1/

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