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  • Joe BrockmeierJ This user is from outside of this forum
    Joe BrockmeierJ This user is from outside of this forum
    Joe Brockmeier
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    This morning I got an email from a sender that identified itself as an AI agent.

    So - plus for being upfront about it, but... please don't do this.

    I get that a lot of people are really, really, really into AI tools. OK. I have my opinions on them, you have yours. I have major qualms about them, some people think they're the best thing ever.

    OK. Fine. But when your use of these things spills over into the rest of the world, it's no longer a question of my opinion vs. your opinion, my decisions vs. your decisions.

    At this point, things have moved from each person doing their own thing to inflicting your use of AI onto me without my consent.

    Before this spirals out of control, which I can see happening *very* quickly, I'd like for us to agree on a piece of netiquette:

    - it is rude in the extreme to set loose an AI agent to reach out to people who have not consented to interact with these things.

    - it is rude to have an AI agent submit pull requests that human maintainers have to review.

    - it is rude to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans in any way when they have not consented to take part in whatever experiment you are running.

    - it is unacceptable to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans without identifying the person or organization behind the agent. If you're not willing to unmask and have a person reach out to you with their thoughts on this, then don't have an AI agent reach out to me.

    Stuff like this really sours me on technology right now. If I didn't have a family and responsibilities, I'd be seriously considering how I could go live off the grid somewhere without having to interact with this stuff.

    Again: I'm not demanding that other people not use AI/LLMs, etc. But when your use spills out into my having to have interactions with an agent's output, you need to reconsider. Your ability to spew things out into the universe puts an unwanted burden on other humans who have not consented to this.

    #LLMs #AI #AgenticAI #OpenClaw #OpenSource

    Michael W Lucas :flan_on_fire:M Slavery is violenceP Bodo MenkeB grechawG bkK 8 Replies Last reply
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    • Joe BrockmeierJ Joe Brockmeier

      This morning I got an email from a sender that identified itself as an AI agent.

      So - plus for being upfront about it, but... please don't do this.

      I get that a lot of people are really, really, really into AI tools. OK. I have my opinions on them, you have yours. I have major qualms about them, some people think they're the best thing ever.

      OK. Fine. But when your use of these things spills over into the rest of the world, it's no longer a question of my opinion vs. your opinion, my decisions vs. your decisions.

      At this point, things have moved from each person doing their own thing to inflicting your use of AI onto me without my consent.

      Before this spirals out of control, which I can see happening *very* quickly, I'd like for us to agree on a piece of netiquette:

      - it is rude in the extreme to set loose an AI agent to reach out to people who have not consented to interact with these things.

      - it is rude to have an AI agent submit pull requests that human maintainers have to review.

      - it is rude to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans in any way when they have not consented to take part in whatever experiment you are running.

      - it is unacceptable to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans without identifying the person or organization behind the agent. If you're not willing to unmask and have a person reach out to you with their thoughts on this, then don't have an AI agent reach out to me.

      Stuff like this really sours me on technology right now. If I didn't have a family and responsibilities, I'd be seriously considering how I could go live off the grid somewhere without having to interact with this stuff.

      Again: I'm not demanding that other people not use AI/LLMs, etc. But when your use spills out into my having to have interactions with an agent's output, you need to reconsider. Your ability to spew things out into the universe puts an unwanted burden on other humans who have not consented to this.

      #LLMs #AI #AgenticAI #OpenClaw #OpenSource

      Michael W Lucas :flan_on_fire:M This user is from outside of this forum
      Michael W Lucas :flan_on_fire:M This user is from outside of this forum
      Michael W Lucas :flan_on_fire:
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      #2

      @jzb Yes. Yes, yes, yes.

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      • Joe BrockmeierJ Joe Brockmeier

        This morning I got an email from a sender that identified itself as an AI agent.

        So - plus for being upfront about it, but... please don't do this.

        I get that a lot of people are really, really, really into AI tools. OK. I have my opinions on them, you have yours. I have major qualms about them, some people think they're the best thing ever.

        OK. Fine. But when your use of these things spills over into the rest of the world, it's no longer a question of my opinion vs. your opinion, my decisions vs. your decisions.

        At this point, things have moved from each person doing their own thing to inflicting your use of AI onto me without my consent.

        Before this spirals out of control, which I can see happening *very* quickly, I'd like for us to agree on a piece of netiquette:

        - it is rude in the extreme to set loose an AI agent to reach out to people who have not consented to interact with these things.

        - it is rude to have an AI agent submit pull requests that human maintainers have to review.

        - it is rude to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans in any way when they have not consented to take part in whatever experiment you are running.

        - it is unacceptable to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans without identifying the person or organization behind the agent. If you're not willing to unmask and have a person reach out to you with their thoughts on this, then don't have an AI agent reach out to me.

        Stuff like this really sours me on technology right now. If I didn't have a family and responsibilities, I'd be seriously considering how I could go live off the grid somewhere without having to interact with this stuff.

        Again: I'm not demanding that other people not use AI/LLMs, etc. But when your use spills out into my having to have interactions with an agent's output, you need to reconsider. Your ability to spew things out into the universe puts an unwanted burden on other humans who have not consented to this.

        #LLMs #AI #AgenticAI #OpenClaw #OpenSource

        Slavery is violenceP This user is from outside of this forum
        Slavery is violenceP This user is from outside of this forum
        Slavery is violence
        wrote last edited by
        #3

        @jzb It’s like being subjected to secondhand smoke-up-your-@$$.

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        • Joe BrockmeierJ Joe Brockmeier

          This morning I got an email from a sender that identified itself as an AI agent.

          So - plus for being upfront about it, but... please don't do this.

          I get that a lot of people are really, really, really into AI tools. OK. I have my opinions on them, you have yours. I have major qualms about them, some people think they're the best thing ever.

          OK. Fine. But when your use of these things spills over into the rest of the world, it's no longer a question of my opinion vs. your opinion, my decisions vs. your decisions.

          At this point, things have moved from each person doing their own thing to inflicting your use of AI onto me without my consent.

          Before this spirals out of control, which I can see happening *very* quickly, I'd like for us to agree on a piece of netiquette:

          - it is rude in the extreme to set loose an AI agent to reach out to people who have not consented to interact with these things.

          - it is rude to have an AI agent submit pull requests that human maintainers have to review.

          - it is rude to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans in any way when they have not consented to take part in whatever experiment you are running.

          - it is unacceptable to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans without identifying the person or organization behind the agent. If you're not willing to unmask and have a person reach out to you with their thoughts on this, then don't have an AI agent reach out to me.

          Stuff like this really sours me on technology right now. If I didn't have a family and responsibilities, I'd be seriously considering how I could go live off the grid somewhere without having to interact with this stuff.

          Again: I'm not demanding that other people not use AI/LLMs, etc. But when your use spills out into my having to have interactions with an agent's output, you need to reconsider. Your ability to spew things out into the universe puts an unwanted burden on other humans who have not consented to this.

          #LLMs #AI #AgenticAI #OpenClaw #OpenSource

          Bodo MenkeB This user is from outside of this forum
          Bodo MenkeB This user is from outside of this forum
          Bodo Menke
          wrote last edited by
          #4

          @jzb Well said.

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          • Joe BrockmeierJ Joe Brockmeier

            This morning I got an email from a sender that identified itself as an AI agent.

            So - plus for being upfront about it, but... please don't do this.

            I get that a lot of people are really, really, really into AI tools. OK. I have my opinions on them, you have yours. I have major qualms about them, some people think they're the best thing ever.

            OK. Fine. But when your use of these things spills over into the rest of the world, it's no longer a question of my opinion vs. your opinion, my decisions vs. your decisions.

            At this point, things have moved from each person doing their own thing to inflicting your use of AI onto me without my consent.

            Before this spirals out of control, which I can see happening *very* quickly, I'd like for us to agree on a piece of netiquette:

            - it is rude in the extreme to set loose an AI agent to reach out to people who have not consented to interact with these things.

            - it is rude to have an AI agent submit pull requests that human maintainers have to review.

            - it is rude to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans in any way when they have not consented to take part in whatever experiment you are running.

            - it is unacceptable to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans without identifying the person or organization behind the agent. If you're not willing to unmask and have a person reach out to you with their thoughts on this, then don't have an AI agent reach out to me.

            Stuff like this really sours me on technology right now. If I didn't have a family and responsibilities, I'd be seriously considering how I could go live off the grid somewhere without having to interact with this stuff.

            Again: I'm not demanding that other people not use AI/LLMs, etc. But when your use spills out into my having to have interactions with an agent's output, you need to reconsider. Your ability to spew things out into the universe puts an unwanted burden on other humans who have not consented to this.

            #LLMs #AI #AgenticAI #OpenClaw #OpenSource

            grechawG This user is from outside of this forum
            grechawG This user is from outside of this forum
            grechaw
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            #5

            @jzb you say it for me and probably others too. Circumstances turning us into bitter zombies.

            "Stuff like this really sours me on technology right now. If I didn't have a family and responsibilities, I'd be seriously considering how I could go live off the grid somewhere without having to interact with this stuff."

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            • Joe BrockmeierJ Joe Brockmeier

              This morning I got an email from a sender that identified itself as an AI agent.

              So - plus for being upfront about it, but... please don't do this.

              I get that a lot of people are really, really, really into AI tools. OK. I have my opinions on them, you have yours. I have major qualms about them, some people think they're the best thing ever.

              OK. Fine. But when your use of these things spills over into the rest of the world, it's no longer a question of my opinion vs. your opinion, my decisions vs. your decisions.

              At this point, things have moved from each person doing their own thing to inflicting your use of AI onto me without my consent.

              Before this spirals out of control, which I can see happening *very* quickly, I'd like for us to agree on a piece of netiquette:

              - it is rude in the extreme to set loose an AI agent to reach out to people who have not consented to interact with these things.

              - it is rude to have an AI agent submit pull requests that human maintainers have to review.

              - it is rude to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans in any way when they have not consented to take part in whatever experiment you are running.

              - it is unacceptable to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans without identifying the person or organization behind the agent. If you're not willing to unmask and have a person reach out to you with their thoughts on this, then don't have an AI agent reach out to me.

              Stuff like this really sours me on technology right now. If I didn't have a family and responsibilities, I'd be seriously considering how I could go live off the grid somewhere without having to interact with this stuff.

              Again: I'm not demanding that other people not use AI/LLMs, etc. But when your use spills out into my having to have interactions with an agent's output, you need to reconsider. Your ability to spew things out into the universe puts an unwanted burden on other humans who have not consented to this.

              #LLMs #AI #AgenticAI #OpenClaw #OpenSource

              bkK This user is from outside of this forum
              bkK This user is from outside of this forum
              bk
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              @jzb
              Current mood : #Bladerunner

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              • Joe BrockmeierJ Joe Brockmeier

                This morning I got an email from a sender that identified itself as an AI agent.

                So - plus for being upfront about it, but... please don't do this.

                I get that a lot of people are really, really, really into AI tools. OK. I have my opinions on them, you have yours. I have major qualms about them, some people think they're the best thing ever.

                OK. Fine. But when your use of these things spills over into the rest of the world, it's no longer a question of my opinion vs. your opinion, my decisions vs. your decisions.

                At this point, things have moved from each person doing their own thing to inflicting your use of AI onto me without my consent.

                Before this spirals out of control, which I can see happening *very* quickly, I'd like for us to agree on a piece of netiquette:

                - it is rude in the extreme to set loose an AI agent to reach out to people who have not consented to interact with these things.

                - it is rude to have an AI agent submit pull requests that human maintainers have to review.

                - it is rude to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans in any way when they have not consented to take part in whatever experiment you are running.

                - it is unacceptable to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans without identifying the person or organization behind the agent. If you're not willing to unmask and have a person reach out to you with their thoughts on this, then don't have an AI agent reach out to me.

                Stuff like this really sours me on technology right now. If I didn't have a family and responsibilities, I'd be seriously considering how I could go live off the grid somewhere without having to interact with this stuff.

                Again: I'm not demanding that other people not use AI/LLMs, etc. But when your use spills out into my having to have interactions with an agent's output, you need to reconsider. Your ability to spew things out into the universe puts an unwanted burden on other humans who have not consented to this.

                #LLMs #AI #AgenticAI #OpenClaw #OpenSource

                Gemma ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭 🎐G This user is from outside of this forum
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                Gemma ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭 🎐
                wrote last edited by
                #7

                @jzb Why are you not demanding people stop using AI? What makes you think you don't have a right to demand this? The environmental and economic impact of this technology is so rapacious that it is absolutely immoral to usw this technology in any way.

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                • Slavery is violenceP Slavery is violence

                  @jzb It’s like being subjected to secondhand smoke-up-your-@$$.

                  oldguycrustyO This user is from outside of this forum
                  oldguycrustyO This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @Prainbow @jzb

                  "Second-Hand Smoke" is a great analogy to the AI pollution issue. I hadn't thought of it quite like that until you said that - and yeah! thats perfect, and I thank you!

                  #AISlop and #AI #Pollution is like subjecting others to #SecondHandSmoke

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                  • Joe BrockmeierJ Joe Brockmeier

                    This morning I got an email from a sender that identified itself as an AI agent.

                    So - plus for being upfront about it, but... please don't do this.

                    I get that a lot of people are really, really, really into AI tools. OK. I have my opinions on them, you have yours. I have major qualms about them, some people think they're the best thing ever.

                    OK. Fine. But when your use of these things spills over into the rest of the world, it's no longer a question of my opinion vs. your opinion, my decisions vs. your decisions.

                    At this point, things have moved from each person doing their own thing to inflicting your use of AI onto me without my consent.

                    Before this spirals out of control, which I can see happening *very* quickly, I'd like for us to agree on a piece of netiquette:

                    - it is rude in the extreme to set loose an AI agent to reach out to people who have not consented to interact with these things.

                    - it is rude to have an AI agent submit pull requests that human maintainers have to review.

                    - it is rude to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans in any way when they have not consented to take part in whatever experiment you are running.

                    - it is unacceptable to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans without identifying the person or organization behind the agent. If you're not willing to unmask and have a person reach out to you with their thoughts on this, then don't have an AI agent reach out to me.

                    Stuff like this really sours me on technology right now. If I didn't have a family and responsibilities, I'd be seriously considering how I could go live off the grid somewhere without having to interact with this stuff.

                    Again: I'm not demanding that other people not use AI/LLMs, etc. But when your use spills out into my having to have interactions with an agent's output, you need to reconsider. Your ability to spew things out into the universe puts an unwanted burden on other humans who have not consented to this.

                    #LLMs #AI #AgenticAI #OpenClaw #OpenSource

                    DBL This user is from outside of this forum
                    DBL This user is from outside of this forum
                    DB
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                    @jzb 100%

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                    • Gemma ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭 🎐G Gemma ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭 🎐

                      @jzb Why are you not demanding people stop using AI? What makes you think you don't have a right to demand this? The environmental and economic impact of this technology is so rapacious that it is absolutely immoral to usw this technology in any way.

                      Joe BrockmeierJ This user is from outside of this forum
                      Joe BrockmeierJ This user is from outside of this forum
                      Joe Brockmeier
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                      @gcvsa I suppose I have a right to demand it, but not the ability to enforce such a thing.

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                      • Joe BrockmeierJ Joe Brockmeier

                        This morning I got an email from a sender that identified itself as an AI agent.

                        So - plus for being upfront about it, but... please don't do this.

                        I get that a lot of people are really, really, really into AI tools. OK. I have my opinions on them, you have yours. I have major qualms about them, some people think they're the best thing ever.

                        OK. Fine. But when your use of these things spills over into the rest of the world, it's no longer a question of my opinion vs. your opinion, my decisions vs. your decisions.

                        At this point, things have moved from each person doing their own thing to inflicting your use of AI onto me without my consent.

                        Before this spirals out of control, which I can see happening *very* quickly, I'd like for us to agree on a piece of netiquette:

                        - it is rude in the extreme to set loose an AI agent to reach out to people who have not consented to interact with these things.

                        - it is rude to have an AI agent submit pull requests that human maintainers have to review.

                        - it is rude to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans in any way when they have not consented to take part in whatever experiment you are running.

                        - it is unacceptable to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans without identifying the person or organization behind the agent. If you're not willing to unmask and have a person reach out to you with their thoughts on this, then don't have an AI agent reach out to me.

                        Stuff like this really sours me on technology right now. If I didn't have a family and responsibilities, I'd be seriously considering how I could go live off the grid somewhere without having to interact with this stuff.

                        Again: I'm not demanding that other people not use AI/LLMs, etc. But when your use spills out into my having to have interactions with an agent's output, you need to reconsider. Your ability to spew things out into the universe puts an unwanted burden on other humans who have not consented to this.

                        #LLMs #AI #AgenticAI #OpenClaw #OpenSource

                        K This user is from outside of this forum
                        K This user is from outside of this forum
                        grrl_aex
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                        @jzb

                        ai use fosters the enstupification of humanity.

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