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The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

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  • Punnamaraju Vinayaka TejasP Punnamaraju Vinayaka Tejas

    @fdroidorg @marcprux

    Did Google not change course with their "high friction flow"?

    F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
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    F-Droid
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    @PVTejas No one saw that flow, so until then, all their posts are PR media control.

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    • crazyeddieC crazyeddie

      @fdroidorg @marcprux What am I supposed to say they're doing that's illegal when I complain?

      "Please exercise powers you don't have to do a thing I know you fully support and instead listen to me, who you don't give two fucks about. I don't even have a dollar to bribe you with."

      No, seriously. What do I put in this form? I haven't a clue. There's no point if I can't even attempt to be convincing and I don't know one single thing that would convince anyone of anything here.

      crazyeddieC This user is from outside of this forum
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      crazyeddie
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      #27

      @fdroidorg @marcprux I guess it's relevant that I'm in the US and the "regulating agency" here is just one of Trump's goons.

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      • crazyeddieC crazyeddie

        @fdroidorg @marcprux What am I supposed to say they're doing that's illegal when I complain?

        "Please exercise powers you don't have to do a thing I know you fully support and instead listen to me, who you don't give two fucks about. I don't even have a dollar to bribe you with."

        No, seriously. What do I put in this form? I haven't a clue. There's no point if I can't even attempt to be convincing and I don't know one single thing that would convince anyone of anything here.

        F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
        F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
        F-Droid
        wrote last edited by
        #28

        @crazyeddie The top section has a "You, the consumer" text that you could mention to the private person, and one named "You, the state" that puts things into perspective for them as a representative of the people.

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        • F-DroidF F-Droid

          The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

          If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

          https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

          We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

          Thank you for your support!

          Ryek Darkener_ This user is from outside of this forum
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          Ryek Darkener
          wrote last edited by
          #29

          @fdroidorg @marcprux

          Aren ’t the government and the EU officials being contacted already?
          I would prefer a way to have the opportunity to change the behaviour of what I can and what I can’t do on my phone – like a "free"-"unfree" switch to be easily used on my phone. As I won’t bet that politics is willing to to the job in the next 200 days.

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          • F-DroidF F-Droid

            The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

            If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

            https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

            We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

            Thank you for your support!

            James BilsbroughJ This user is from outside of this forum
            James BilsbroughJ This user is from outside of this forum
            James Bilsbrough
            wrote last edited by
            #30

            @fdroidorg hey gang, I host @crossed, would anyone from the F-Droid team like to come chat to us about this and why this fundamentally breaks the Android promise?

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            • Ryek Darkener_ Ryek Darkener

              @fdroidorg @marcprux

              Aren ’t the government and the EU officials being contacted already?
              I would prefer a way to have the opportunity to change the behaviour of what I can and what I can’t do on my phone – like a "free"-"unfree" switch to be easily used on my phone. As I won’t bet that politics is willing to to the job in the next 200 days.

              F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
              F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
              F-Droid
              wrote last edited by
              #31

              @_RyekDarkener_ It's not only about "your" phone, but of your friends and family too. Note that Google knows PR really well, people already relaxed and forgot about this, as media just repeated the Google texts verbatim.

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              • F-DroidF F-Droid

                @_RyekDarkener_ It's not only about "your" phone, but of your friends and family too. Note that Google knows PR really well, people already relaxed and forgot about this, as media just repeated the Google texts verbatim.

                Ryek Darkener_ This user is from outside of this forum
                Ryek Darkener_ This user is from outside of this forum
                Ryek Darkener
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                #32

                @fdroidorg

                Jep. And to my understanding this is officially a crime in an area where law already exists. I’m no lawyer. But I’m quite confident the case will come to court.
                I’m very much struggling with the idea that our politicians do not know what happens.

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                • Ryek Darkener_ Ryek Darkener

                  @fdroidorg

                  Jep. And to my understanding this is officially a crime in an area where law already exists. I’m no lawyer. But I’m quite confident the case will come to court.
                  I’m very much struggling with the idea that our politicians do not know what happens.

                  F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
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                  F-Droid
                  wrote last edited by
                  #33

                  @_RyekDarkener_ Being blocked on 99% of devices for four years until we win such a court case is not the best path

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                  • F-DroidF F-Droid

                    The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                    If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                    https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                    We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                    Thank you for your support!

                    nicolaottomanoN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #34

                    @fdroidorg @marcprux

                    Tagging @EUCommission

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                    • F-DroidF F-Droid

                      @crazyeddie The top section has a "You, the consumer" text that you could mention to the private person, and one named "You, the state" that puts things into perspective for them as a representative of the people.

                      crazyeddieC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      crazyeddie
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                      #35

                      @fdroidorg That's actually seriously unhelpful. Cool though. I'll just focus on helping anyone that wants install lineage or something. Screaming directly into a trash can is pointless anyway but if there was actually something I could say that would like suggest a step to take or law that's being broken or something I might have bothered. Clearly there's just bitching about how shit's being ruined and they don't give a shit.

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                      • F-DroidF F-Droid

                        @_RyekDarkener_ Being blocked on 99% of devices for four years until we win such a court case is not the best path

                        Ryek Darkener_ This user is from outside of this forum
                        Ryek Darkener_ This user is from outside of this forum
                        Ryek Darkener
                        wrote last edited by
                        #36

                        @fdroidorg

                        I agree. So – as I said – waiting for politics may be much as waiting for godot.
                        I would like to have an operating system for my current – and any other – smartphone to be easy installed via otg stick. Like any other computer. A lot of this is already in place. And frankly spoken I don’t think that 95% of the current users care if they can use F-Droid or not. I like F-Droid. But sadly it is elitist currently and not mainstream.

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                        • F-DroidF F-Droid

                          The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                          If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                          https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                          We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                          Thank you for your support!

                          ThloshT This user is from outside of this forum
                          ThloshT This user is from outside of this forum
                          Thlosh
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                          #37

                          @fdroidorg @volla Will VollaOS be affected? And how?

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                          • F-DroidF F-Droid

                            The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                            If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                            https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                            We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                            Thank you for your support!

                            Al & Val's Modern HomesteadingA This user is from outside of this forum
                            Al & Val's Modern HomesteadingA This user is from outside of this forum
                            Al & Val's Modern Homesteading
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                            @fdroidorg Maybe a Federated Fone?

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                            • Ryek Darkener_ Ryek Darkener

                              @fdroidorg

                              I agree. So – as I said – waiting for politics may be much as waiting for godot.
                              I would like to have an operating system for my current – and any other – smartphone to be easy installed via otg stick. Like any other computer. A lot of this is already in place. And frankly spoken I don’t think that 95% of the current users care if they can use F-Droid or not. I like F-Droid. But sadly it is elitist currently and not mainstream.

                              F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
                              F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
                              F-Droid
                              wrote last edited by
                              #39

                              @_RyekDarkener_ We'd like to know, what makes it elitist though? As we are always working on making it easier to use so it achieves mainstream usage.

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                              • crazyeddieC crazyeddie

                                @fdroidorg That's actually seriously unhelpful. Cool though. I'll just focus on helping anyone that wants install lineage or something. Screaming directly into a trash can is pointless anyway but if there was actually something I could say that would like suggest a step to take or law that's being broken or something I might have bothered. Clearly there's just bitching about how shit's being ruined and they don't give a shit.

                                F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                F-Droid
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                                #40

                                @crazyeddie Is the "United States" section is not enough, we might need some better pointers.

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                                • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                  @_RyekDarkener_ We'd like to know, what makes it elitist though? As we are always working on making it easier to use so it achieves mainstream usage.

                                  Ryek Darkener_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  Ryek Darkener
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                                  #41

                                  @fdroidorg

                                  The problem is not on your side. You are doing a tremendous job.
                                  The problem is the majority of users. And their unwillingness to learn and to adapt.

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                                  • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                    The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                    If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                    https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                    We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                    Thank you for your support!

                                    ArchilochusA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Archilochus
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                                    @fdroidorg

                                    google is an integral part of the security/surveillance state. they're not susceptible to public opinion. hopefully the tech crowd will continue to develop alternatives.

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                                    • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                      @crazyeddie Is the "United States" section is not enough, we might need some better pointers.

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                                      Resuna
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                                      @fdroidorg @crazyeddie

                                      The defunct email addresses in that section are depressing.

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                                      • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                        @crazyeddie Is the "United States" section is not enough, we might need some better pointers.

                                        crazyeddieC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        crazyeddie
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                                        #44

                                        @fdroidorg It just sends me to a place where I can report an antitrust claim. Like say google is breaking the law and needs to be investigated.

                                        I don't know what I'd tell them they're doing wrong nor what steps should be taken. I'm especially baffled because we already let Apple do this shit.

                                        I can't just complain about stuff on a crime reporting form. I need to be reporting something.

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                                        • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                          @Alonely0 @cy8aer Older apps were added when reproducibility wasn't achievable. For this reason today only about 22% of apps that we host are signed by their developer. This number will increase with time as we push for reproducibility at inclusion time. Also, switching from one signer to another is an annoying process that users need to take manually, for security reasons.

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                                          Alonely0 🦀 🇪🇺
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                                          @fdroidorg @cy8aer tysm! I didn't know this was the case.

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