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The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

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  • F-DroidF F-Droid

    The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

    If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

    https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

    We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

    Thank you for your support!

    Ryek Darkener_ This user is from outside of this forum
    Ryek Darkener_ This user is from outside of this forum
    Ryek Darkener
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    #29

    @fdroidorg @marcprux

    Aren ’t the government and the EU officials being contacted already?
    I would prefer a way to have the opportunity to change the behaviour of what I can and what I can’t do on my phone – like a "free"-"unfree" switch to be easily used on my phone. As I won’t bet that politics is willing to to the job in the next 200 days.

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    • F-DroidF F-Droid

      The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

      If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

      https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

      We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

      Thank you for your support!

      James BilsbroughJ This user is from outside of this forum
      James BilsbroughJ This user is from outside of this forum
      James Bilsbrough
      wrote last edited by
      #30

      @fdroidorg hey gang, I host @crossed, would anyone from the F-Droid team like to come chat to us about this and why this fundamentally breaks the Android promise?

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      • Ryek Darkener_ Ryek Darkener

        @fdroidorg @marcprux

        Aren ’t the government and the EU officials being contacted already?
        I would prefer a way to have the opportunity to change the behaviour of what I can and what I can’t do on my phone – like a "free"-"unfree" switch to be easily used on my phone. As I won’t bet that politics is willing to to the job in the next 200 days.

        F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
        F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
        F-Droid
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        #31

        @_RyekDarkener_ It's not only about "your" phone, but of your friends and family too. Note that Google knows PR really well, people already relaxed and forgot about this, as media just repeated the Google texts verbatim.

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        • F-DroidF F-Droid

          @_RyekDarkener_ It's not only about "your" phone, but of your friends and family too. Note that Google knows PR really well, people already relaxed and forgot about this, as media just repeated the Google texts verbatim.

          Ryek Darkener_ This user is from outside of this forum
          Ryek Darkener_ This user is from outside of this forum
          Ryek Darkener
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          #32

          @fdroidorg

          Jep. And to my understanding this is officially a crime in an area where law already exists. I’m no lawyer. But I’m quite confident the case will come to court.
          I’m very much struggling with the idea that our politicians do not know what happens.

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          • Ryek Darkener_ Ryek Darkener

            @fdroidorg

            Jep. And to my understanding this is officially a crime in an area where law already exists. I’m no lawyer. But I’m quite confident the case will come to court.
            I’m very much struggling with the idea that our politicians do not know what happens.

            F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
            F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
            F-Droid
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            #33

            @_RyekDarkener_ Being blocked on 99% of devices for four years until we win such a court case is not the best path

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            • F-DroidF F-Droid

              The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

              If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

              https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

              We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

              Thank you for your support!

              nicolaottomanoN This user is from outside of this forum
              nicolaottomanoN This user is from outside of this forum
              nicolaottomano
              wrote last edited by
              #34

              @fdroidorg @marcprux

              Tagging @EUCommission

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              • F-DroidF F-Droid

                @crazyeddie The top section has a "You, the consumer" text that you could mention to the private person, and one named "You, the state" that puts things into perspective for them as a representative of the people.

                crazyeddieC This user is from outside of this forum
                crazyeddieC This user is from outside of this forum
                crazyeddie
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                #35

                @fdroidorg That's actually seriously unhelpful. Cool though. I'll just focus on helping anyone that wants install lineage or something. Screaming directly into a trash can is pointless anyway but if there was actually something I could say that would like suggest a step to take or law that's being broken or something I might have bothered. Clearly there's just bitching about how shit's being ruined and they don't give a shit.

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                • F-DroidF F-Droid

                  @_RyekDarkener_ Being blocked on 99% of devices for four years until we win such a court case is not the best path

                  Ryek Darkener_ This user is from outside of this forum
                  Ryek Darkener_ This user is from outside of this forum
                  Ryek Darkener
                  wrote last edited by
                  #36

                  @fdroidorg

                  I agree. So – as I said – waiting for politics may be much as waiting for godot.
                  I would like to have an operating system for my current – and any other – smartphone to be easy installed via otg stick. Like any other computer. A lot of this is already in place. And frankly spoken I don’t think that 95% of the current users care if they can use F-Droid or not. I like F-Droid. But sadly it is elitist currently and not mainstream.

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                  • F-DroidF F-Droid

                    The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                    If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                    https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                    We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                    Thank you for your support!

                    ThloshT This user is from outside of this forum
                    ThloshT This user is from outside of this forum
                    Thlosh
                    wrote last edited by
                    #37

                    @fdroidorg @volla Will VollaOS be affected? And how?

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                    • F-DroidF F-Droid

                      The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                      If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                      https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                      We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                      Thank you for your support!

                      Al & Val's Modern HomesteadingA This user is from outside of this forum
                      Al & Val's Modern HomesteadingA This user is from outside of this forum
                      Al & Val's Modern Homesteading
                      wrote last edited by
                      #38

                      @fdroidorg Maybe a Federated Fone?

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                      • Ryek Darkener_ Ryek Darkener

                        @fdroidorg

                        I agree. So – as I said – waiting for politics may be much as waiting for godot.
                        I would like to have an operating system for my current – and any other – smartphone to be easy installed via otg stick. Like any other computer. A lot of this is already in place. And frankly spoken I don’t think that 95% of the current users care if they can use F-Droid or not. I like F-Droid. But sadly it is elitist currently and not mainstream.

                        F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
                        F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
                        F-Droid
                        wrote last edited by
                        #39

                        @_RyekDarkener_ We'd like to know, what makes it elitist though? As we are always working on making it easier to use so it achieves mainstream usage.

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                        • crazyeddieC crazyeddie

                          @fdroidorg That's actually seriously unhelpful. Cool though. I'll just focus on helping anyone that wants install lineage or something. Screaming directly into a trash can is pointless anyway but if there was actually something I could say that would like suggest a step to take or law that's being broken or something I might have bothered. Clearly there's just bitching about how shit's being ruined and they don't give a shit.

                          F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
                          F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
                          F-Droid
                          wrote last edited by
                          #40

                          @crazyeddie Is the "United States" section is not enough, we might need some better pointers.

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                          • F-DroidF F-Droid

                            @_RyekDarkener_ We'd like to know, what makes it elitist though? As we are always working on making it easier to use so it achieves mainstream usage.

                            Ryek Darkener_ This user is from outside of this forum
                            Ryek Darkener_ This user is from outside of this forum
                            Ryek Darkener
                            wrote last edited by
                            #41

                            @fdroidorg

                            The problem is not on your side. You are doing a tremendous job.
                            The problem is the majority of users. And their unwillingness to learn and to adapt.

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                            • F-DroidF F-Droid

                              The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                              If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                              https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                              We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                              Thank you for your support!

                              ArchilochusA This user is from outside of this forum
                              ArchilochusA This user is from outside of this forum
                              Archilochus
                              wrote last edited by
                              #42

                              @fdroidorg

                              google is an integral part of the security/surveillance state. they're not susceptible to public opinion. hopefully the tech crowd will continue to develop alternatives.

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                              • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                @crazyeddie Is the "United States" section is not enough, we might need some better pointers.

                                ResunaR This user is from outside of this forum
                                ResunaR This user is from outside of this forum
                                Resuna
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                                #43

                                @fdroidorg @crazyeddie

                                The defunct email addresses in that section are depressing.

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                                • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                  @crazyeddie Is the "United States" section is not enough, we might need some better pointers.

                                  crazyeddieC This user is from outside of this forum
                                  crazyeddieC This user is from outside of this forum
                                  crazyeddie
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                                  #44

                                  @fdroidorg It just sends me to a place where I can report an antitrust claim. Like say google is breaking the law and needs to be investigated.

                                  I don't know what I'd tell them they're doing wrong nor what steps should be taken. I'm especially baffled because we already let Apple do this shit.

                                  I can't just complain about stuff on a crime reporting form. I need to be reporting something.

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                                  • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                    @Alonely0 @cy8aer Older apps were added when reproducibility wasn't achievable. For this reason today only about 22% of apps that we host are signed by their developer. This number will increase with time as we push for reproducibility at inclusion time. Also, switching from one signer to another is an annoying process that users need to take manually, for security reasons.

                                    Alonely0 🦀 🇪🇺A This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Alonely0 🦀 🇪🇺
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                                    @fdroidorg @cy8aer tysm! I didn't know this was the case.

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                                    • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                      The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                      If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                      https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                      We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                      Thank you for your support!

                                      ALT43 :microblog:A This user is from outside of this forum
                                      ALT43 :microblog:A This user is from outside of this forum
                                      ALT43 :microblog:
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                                      #46

                                      @fdroidorg Done!

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                                      • StuT Stu

                                        @Alonely0 @cy8aer @fdroidorg @marcprux

                                        I read some of those threads linked from the discuss link. This whole situation is exhausting. Multiple ways to get screwed over on multiple fronts. The layman has no chance to understand any of this.

                                        And then, of course, you'll get a pithy "use ubuntu" reply to these threads, which is fine if you have one of the 12 old phones supported by it.

                                        I don't know what the solution is, but if the answer is "get the apk from github and ensure you trust the dev" then essentially everyone is screwed.

                                        Alonely0 🦀 🇪🇺A This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Alonely0 🦀 🇪🇺
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                                        #47

                                        @tehstu @cy8aer @fdroidorg @marcprux yeah, it's a technical discussion, sorry I assumed more than I should have (it's an xkcd 2501 situation, look it up lol). However, I have to say that relying on GitHub releases is not that bad of a deal with an app store like Obtainium, which streamlines app updates. It's actually a quite secure model since it comes as straight from the developer as it possibly can.

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                                        • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                          The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                          If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                          https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                          We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                          Thank you for your support!

                                          DiaaGaza 💪✌️🇵🇸D This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          DiaaGaza 💪✌️🇵🇸
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #48

                                          @fdroidorg @marcprux Wow, a crucial warning! ⚠️ It's time to be vigilant and take action to keep Android open and our privacy safe.

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