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  3. Below, Robert Kagen, says (to Carole Cadwalladr) something that confirms what many of us have been saying:

Below, Robert Kagen, says (to Carole Cadwalladr) something that confirms what many of us have been saying:

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  • Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC Emeritus Prof Christopher May

    Below, Robert Kagen, says (to Carole Cadwalladr) something that confirms what many of us have been saying:

    'it's just a faulty analysis to think that if you can flatter Trump enough & call him daddy, that means he'll leave you alone. As we see, he's not leaving anybody alone. It's really just – in fact, with him, it's an invitation to come back & demand something else & push you around. So you can't buy anything in that way'!

    Keir needs to listen!

    #politics #trump

    https://www.thenerve.news/p/robert-kagan-carole-cadwalladr-europe-wake-up-trump-dictatorship-russia-white-supremacy-keir-starmer

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    @ChrisMayLA6 Authoritarians are actually provoked into attacking, when you ”try to give them what they want”

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    • Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC Emeritus Prof Christopher May

      Below, Robert Kagen, says (to Carole Cadwalladr) something that confirms what many of us have been saying:

      'it's just a faulty analysis to think that if you can flatter Trump enough & call him daddy, that means he'll leave you alone. As we see, he's not leaving anybody alone. It's really just – in fact, with him, it's an invitation to come back & demand something else & push you around. So you can't buy anything in that way'!

      Keir needs to listen!

      #politics #trump

      https://www.thenerve.news/p/robert-kagan-carole-cadwalladr-europe-wake-up-trump-dictatorship-russia-white-supremacy-keir-starmer

      CM ThiedeC This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote last edited by
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      @ChrisMayLA6 I'd love to watch a panel of historians talk through this. Especially, if this one in Wisconsin is invited. Bias seems to have no bounds.

      https://cmthiede.vivaldi.net/2025/12/21/popular-programming/

      #FolkifiedPoprageousness

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      • Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC Emeritus Prof Christopher May

        Below, Robert Kagen, says (to Carole Cadwalladr) something that confirms what many of us have been saying:

        'it's just a faulty analysis to think that if you can flatter Trump enough & call him daddy, that means he'll leave you alone. As we see, he's not leaving anybody alone. It's really just – in fact, with him, it's an invitation to come back & demand something else & push you around. So you can't buy anything in that way'!

        Keir needs to listen!

        #politics #trump

        https://www.thenerve.news/p/robert-kagan-carole-cadwalladr-europe-wake-up-trump-dictatorship-russia-white-supremacy-keir-starmer

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        @ChrisMayLA6
        Can someone please inform Mark Rutte (former #VVD now #NATO boss) of this insight? He's got his head so far up Frump's ass that it's starting to make me feel sick...

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        • Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC Emeritus Prof Christopher May

          @GhostOnTheHalfShell

          I've often thought that the abolition of intellectual property laws which would have little negative impact on the general population would make a lot of very rich people very annoyed.

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          @ChrisMayLA6
          Have you read the work of @pluralistic on this? We may have a prefect opportunity to abolish the EU implementation of the #DCMA We could make it legal again to circumvent DRM. That would severely annoy some rich fucks and make the (digital) world a safer place. Win win!
          @GhostOnTheHalfShell

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          • Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC Emeritus Prof Christopher May

            Below, Robert Kagen, says (to Carole Cadwalladr) something that confirms what many of us have been saying:

            'it's just a faulty analysis to think that if you can flatter Trump enough & call him daddy, that means he'll leave you alone. As we see, he's not leaving anybody alone. It's really just – in fact, with him, it's an invitation to come back & demand something else & push you around. So you can't buy anything in that way'!

            Keir needs to listen!

            #politics #trump

            https://www.thenerve.news/p/robert-kagan-carole-cadwalladr-europe-wake-up-trump-dictatorship-russia-white-supremacy-keir-starmer

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            @ChrisMayLA6 "one of the things which most alarms me, because it's my special area of interest – is that the British government has undertaken massive deals with US tech companies. This came out of that state visit. It includes – two weeks ago, I think it was – Britain signing a £240m deal to put Palantir in the middle of our armed forces, our Ministry of Defence. It just seems like total madness to have a Trump ally literally in our defence infrastructure."
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            • Leander LindahlL Leander Lindahl

              @ChrisMayLA6 "one of the things which most alarms me, because it's my special area of interest – is that the British government has undertaken massive deals with US tech companies. This came out of that state visit. It includes – two weeks ago, I think it was – Britain signing a £240m deal to put Palantir in the middle of our armed forces, our Ministry of Defence. It just seems like total madness to have a Trump ally literally in our defence infrastructure."
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              @ChrisMayLA6 isn't there also a deal for Open AI and the tech bros vacuuming up all health care data and public administration in general?

              To me that's so astonishing and my nightmare scenario for my own country (Sweden). It feels like the worst of all possible ways to take on this technological development. 2/2

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                @ChrisMayLA6
                Have you read the work of @pluralistic on this? We may have a prefect opportunity to abolish the EU implementation of the #DCMA We could make it legal again to circumvent DRM. That would severely annoy some rich fucks and make the (digital) world a safer place. Win win!
                @GhostOnTheHalfShell

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                @jarjan @pluralistic @GhostOnTheHalfShell

                Yes, I am familiar with the argument & completely agree with abandoning DRM... I've always been suspicious of it

                https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/1097

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                • Leander LindahlL Leander Lindahl

                  @ChrisMayLA6 isn't there also a deal for Open AI and the tech bros vacuuming up all health care data and public administration in general?

                  To me that's so astonishing and my nightmare scenario for my own country (Sweden). It feels like the worst of all possible ways to take on this technological development. 2/2

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                  @leanderlindahl

                  Agreed; there seems to either be collusion or myopia at play; the open source alternative has been ready for (further) development for years, but few Govt.s seem to know about it or be interested in developing this alternative approach - sadly!

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                  • Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC Emeritus Prof Christopher May

                    @leanderlindahl

                    Agreed; there seems to either be collusion or myopia at play; the open source alternative has been ready for (further) development for years, but few Govt.s seem to know about it or be interested in developing this alternative approach - sadly!

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                    @ChrisMayLA6 its a mix of
                    – lack of knowledge/understanding in the political class
                    – anxiety, rush to be "in" on the new stuff
                    – skillfull lobbying, massive resources from techbros et Ali
                    – caving to pressure from US, hoping to gain favour with US

                    But its the worst of all possible ways to take on the new tech landscape

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                    • Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC Emeritus Prof Christopher May

                      Below, Robert Kagen, says (to Carole Cadwalladr) something that confirms what many of us have been saying:

                      'it's just a faulty analysis to think that if you can flatter Trump enough & call him daddy, that means he'll leave you alone. As we see, he's not leaving anybody alone. It's really just – in fact, with him, it's an invitation to come back & demand something else & push you around. So you can't buy anything in that way'!

                      Keir needs to listen!

                      #politics #trump

                      https://www.thenerve.news/p/robert-kagan-carole-cadwalladr-europe-wake-up-trump-dictatorship-russia-white-supremacy-keir-starmer

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                      @ChrisMayLA6
                      Yes, we need to listen:

                      "So for Europeans, they need to stop waiting for the America that they know to come back, because it isn't.

                      I think it's just vitally important that Europe now, to the best of its ability, comes together and really undertakes what would be a dramatic strategic revolution. Europe needs to become self-sufficient in both military and economic terms. It needs to start understanding that it is faced by aggressive powers on both flanks."

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