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  3. Another reason to not use #Google - they'll readily share your data with the government and give you minimal opportunities to respond.

Another reason to not use #Google - they'll readily share your data with the government and give you minimal opportunities to respond.

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  • Nithin Coca నితిన్N Nithin Coca నితిన్

    Another reason to not use #Google - they'll readily share your data with the government and give you minimal opportunities to respond. It's not worth it.

    https://newrepublic.com/post/206088/homeland-security-67-year-old-us-citizen-criticized-email

    #bigtech #degoogle #techgiants #Gmail

    Corb_The_LesserC This user is from outside of this forum
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    @ncoca The greater offense here is the DHS official who sent #DHS agents to harass someone who exercised his protected right to speak.

    Don't expect #Google or any corporation in any country to risk the state taking legal action against them to defend the rights of their customers. They won't.

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    • aria :blobcattrans:A aria :blobcattrans:

      @ncoca what should I use instead?

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      @ariarhythmic @ncoca

      First I would recommend to get your own domain. Then you can just switch mail provider by changing DNS entries.

      Then go to a hosted which allows you to connect your own domain. If you want to use a European based service (GDPR applies as soon as the provider is in the EU) I would recommend having a look on mailbox.org and posteo.de

      And for receiving the emails: Thunderbird on Desktop and Android, on iOS maybe just use their build in client.

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      • Nithin Coca నితిన్N Nithin Coca నితిన్

        Another reason to not use #Google - they'll readily share your data with the government and give you minimal opportunities to respond. It's not worth it.

        https://newrepublic.com/post/206088/homeland-security-67-year-old-us-citizen-criticized-email

        #bigtech #degoogle #techgiants #Gmail

        Madeleine MorrisR This user is from outside of this forum
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        @ncoca Did you read about this case, because apparently google didn't actually act on the administrative warrant. That was my understanding of the details when the ACLU acted on his behalf.

        Not that I have any love for google or want to defend them, but government is obviously able to track him in other ways.

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        • Nithin Coca నితిన్N Nithin Coca నితిన్

          Another reason to not use #Google - they'll readily share your data with the government and give you minimal opportunities to respond. It's not worth it.

          https://newrepublic.com/post/206088/homeland-security-67-year-old-us-citizen-criticized-email

          #bigtech #degoogle #techgiants #Gmail

          TrimTab 🇺🇦T This user is from outside of this forum
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          @ncoca
          Interesting article.
          To the articles closing question to the reader:

          "...during the first half of 2025 as Trump’s second term began, with Google receiving 28,622, a 15 percent increase over the previous six months. Jon was fortunate to have his case picked up by the ACLU and later reported on by a national media outlet. How many others in the U.S. haven’t been so lucky and face legal challenges for exercising their right to free speech?"

          Answer: 28,621
          Stay loud everyone.

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          • Nithin Coca నితిన్N Nithin Coca నితిన్

            Another reason to not use #Google - they'll readily share your data with the government and give you minimal opportunities to respond. It's not worth it.

            https://newrepublic.com/post/206088/homeland-security-67-year-old-us-citizen-criticized-email

            #bigtech #degoogle #techgiants #Gmail

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            @ncoca

            god this is silly

            are there any practical alternatives to Google that are also better ?

            probably not

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            • J j

              @ariarhythmic @ncoca

              First I would recommend to get your own domain. Then you can just switch mail provider by changing DNS entries.

              Then go to a hosted which allows you to connect your own domain. If you want to use a European based service (GDPR applies as soon as the provider is in the EU) I would recommend having a look on mailbox.org and posteo.de

              And for receiving the emails: Thunderbird on Desktop and Android, on iOS maybe just use their build in client.

              aria :blobcattrans:A This user is from outside of this forum
              aria :blobcattrans:A This user is from outside of this forum
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              @jonasgraphie @ncoca Not everyone is able to get their own domain

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              • Nithin Coca నితిన్N Nithin Coca నితిన్

                Another reason to not use #Google - they'll readily share your data with the government and give you minimal opportunities to respond. It's not worth it.

                https://newrepublic.com/post/206088/homeland-security-67-year-old-us-citizen-criticized-email

                #bigtech #degoogle #techgiants #Gmail

                JeffN This user is from outside of this forum
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                @ncoca

                I quit using google years ago

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                • Madeleine MorrisR Madeleine Morris

                  @ncoca Did you read about this case, because apparently google didn't actually act on the administrative warrant. That was my understanding of the details when the ACLU acted on his behalf.

                  Not that I have any love for google or want to defend them, but government is obviously able to track him in other ways.

                  JuliesBits 🇺🇲 🍑J This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @Remittancegirl @ncoca

                  The article is very disturbing, but I was glad (and surprised) that Google did not provide the information. Good for Google, but I'm still working to move away from Google. More than anything, this article shows how vulnerable we all are to governmental surveillance and intimidation.

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                  • JuliesBits 🇺🇲 🍑J JuliesBits 🇺🇲 🍑

                    @Remittancegirl @ncoca

                    The article is very disturbing, but I was glad (and surprised) that Google did not provide the information. Good for Google, but I'm still working to move away from Google. More than anything, this article shows how vulnerable we all are to governmental surveillance and intimidation.

                    Madeleine MorrisR This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @juliesbits @ncoca The problem is, it's scary to have to rely on the kindness or diligence of google. They're not going to stick their necks out much to protect your rights.

                    But yea, that is the thing - so vulnerable, right?

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                    • aria :blobcattrans:A aria :blobcattrans:

                      @jonasgraphie @ncoca Not everyone is able to get their own domain

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                      @ariarhythmic @ncoca

                      The other suggestions I was mentioning are still relevant without a domain.

                      May I ask what reasons you see why not everyone can have their domain? I would see financial reasons or the need for anonymity.

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                      • aria :blobcattrans:A aria :blobcattrans:

                        @ncoca what should I use instead?

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                        @ariarhythmic @ncoca for mail, @runbox is very effective, I've been a satisfied customer for almost ten years. The few times I needed support it was very responsive. They are located in Norway, with strong privacy laws. And if I remember well, employees are also owners. It is not free, but very reasonably priced.

                        If you need other Google services (Sheet, Documents, etc.), probably Nextcloud is the closest

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                        • Nithin Coca నితిన్N Nithin Coca నితిన్

                          Another reason to not use #Google - they'll readily share your data with the government and give you minimal opportunities to respond. It's not worth it.

                          https://newrepublic.com/post/206088/homeland-security-67-year-old-us-citizen-criticized-email

                          #bigtech #degoogle #techgiants #Gmail

                          Päivi JärviöP This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @ncoca
                          It’s not only Google. All U.S. companies must share their data with the government if requested. Microsoft, Amazon… all of them, big or small.

                          See CLOUD Act.

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act

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