Another reason to not use #Google - they'll readily share your data with the government and give you minimal opportunities to respond.
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@ncoca what should I use instead?
First I would recommend to get your own domain. Then you can just switch mail provider by changing DNS entries.
Then go to a hosted which allows you to connect your own domain. If you want to use a European based service (GDPR applies as soon as the provider is in the EU) I would recommend having a look on mailbox.org and posteo.de
And for receiving the emails: Thunderbird on Desktop and Android, on iOS maybe just use their build in client.
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Another reason to not use #Google - they'll readily share your data with the government and give you minimal opportunities to respond. It's not worth it.
https://newrepublic.com/post/206088/homeland-security-67-year-old-us-citizen-criticized-email
@ncoca Did you read about this case, because apparently google didn't actually act on the administrative warrant. That was my understanding of the details when the ACLU acted on his behalf.
Not that I have any love for google or want to defend them, but government is obviously able to track him in other ways.
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Another reason to not use #Google - they'll readily share your data with the government and give you minimal opportunities to respond. It's not worth it.
https://newrepublic.com/post/206088/homeland-security-67-year-old-us-citizen-criticized-email
@ncoca
Interesting article.
To the articles closing question to the reader:"...during the first half of 2025 as Trump’s second term began, with Google receiving 28,622, a 15 percent increase over the previous six months. Jon was fortunate to have his case picked up by the ACLU and later reported on by a national media outlet. How many others in the U.S. haven’t been so lucky and face legal challenges for exercising their right to free speech?"
Answer: 28,621
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Another reason to not use #Google - they'll readily share your data with the government and give you minimal opportunities to respond. It's not worth it.
https://newrepublic.com/post/206088/homeland-security-67-year-old-us-citizen-criticized-email
god this is silly
are there any practical alternatives to Google that are also better ?
probably not
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First I would recommend to get your own domain. Then you can just switch mail provider by changing DNS entries.
Then go to a hosted which allows you to connect your own domain. If you want to use a European based service (GDPR applies as soon as the provider is in the EU) I would recommend having a look on mailbox.org and posteo.de
And for receiving the emails: Thunderbird on Desktop and Android, on iOS maybe just use their build in client.
@jonasgraphie @ncoca Not everyone is able to get their own domain
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Another reason to not use #Google - they'll readily share your data with the government and give you minimal opportunities to respond. It's not worth it.
https://newrepublic.com/post/206088/homeland-security-67-year-old-us-citizen-criticized-email
I quit using google years ago
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@ncoca Did you read about this case, because apparently google didn't actually act on the administrative warrant. That was my understanding of the details when the ACLU acted on his behalf.
Not that I have any love for google or want to defend them, but government is obviously able to track him in other ways.
The article is very disturbing, but I was glad (and surprised) that Google did not provide the information. Good for Google, but I'm still working to move away from Google. More than anything, this article shows how vulnerable we all are to governmental surveillance and intimidation.
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The article is very disturbing, but I was glad (and surprised) that Google did not provide the information. Good for Google, but I'm still working to move away from Google. More than anything, this article shows how vulnerable we all are to governmental surveillance and intimidation.
@juliesbits @ncoca The problem is, it's scary to have to rely on the kindness or diligence of google. They're not going to stick their necks out much to protect your rights.
But yea, that is the thing - so vulnerable, right?
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@jonasgraphie @ncoca Not everyone is able to get their own domain
The other suggestions I was mentioning are still relevant without a domain.
May I ask what reasons you see why not everyone can have their domain? I would see financial reasons or the need for anonymity.
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@ncoca what should I use instead?
@ariarhythmic @ncoca for mail, @runbox is very effective, I've been a satisfied customer for almost ten years. The few times I needed support it was very responsive. They are located in Norway, with strong privacy laws. And if I remember well, employees are also owners. It is not free, but very reasonably priced.
If you need other Google services (Sheet, Documents, etc.), probably Nextcloud is the closest
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Another reason to not use #Google - they'll readily share your data with the government and give you minimal opportunities to respond. It's not worth it.
https://newrepublic.com/post/206088/homeland-security-67-year-old-us-citizen-criticized-email
@ncoca
It’s not only Google. All U.S. companies must share their data with the government if requested. Microsoft, Amazon… all of them, big or small.See CLOUD Act.
