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  3. The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

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  • F-DroidF F-Droid

    @v_d_richards If signed by the developer (reproducible) and the developer has submitted to the Google pressure, the app will work fine.

    If signed by F-Droid, we think they will not work at all, not even our Client, so we will not be able to provide updates.

    For those apps already on Play you will submit to Google's rules and use Play, right?

    For those not on Play... good luck tracking the APK, if the developer bowed down.

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    Viktoria D. Richards/Uddelhexe
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    #103

    @fdroidorg

    I hated Google before, but do more every day.

    I had hoped that if Apps and their developers took it on them to do the verification shit, loading and maintaining at least such apps from other places than PlayStore would be possible in Android.

    The users are trapped:
    Banking Apps and some others don' t work with Custom Roms.
    Open Source from free places will no longer work on G-Android.

    The only solution is havingntwo devices which is expensive af.

    I.hate.Google.so.much.

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    • F-DroidF F-Droid

      The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

      If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

      https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

      We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

      Thank you for your support!

      Jeroen van Tol ๐Ÿ‹ ๐Ÿธ๐Ÿ”ปT This user is from outside of this forum
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      #104

      @fdroidorg @barbarakathmann @kimvsparrentak

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      • MarcM Marc

        @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux Android has lost its appeal to me as a target for development. I also may order a Jolla Phone at home point, but I need to be sure that my banking apps work with it.

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        Antti
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        #105

        @m2c_n3e @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux You can check from https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/banking-apps-on-sailfish-os/18438/235 if your bank is listed. All my banks work, but that of course don't say anything about your bank

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        • A Antti

          @m2c_n3e @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux You can check from https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/banking-apps-on-sailfish-os/18438/235 if your bank is listed. All my banks work, but that of course don't say anything about your bank

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          #106

          @Antti98 @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux Thank you! That link helped a lot! ๐Ÿ˜€

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          • MarcM Marc

            @Antti98 @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux Thank you! That link helped a lot! ๐Ÿ˜€

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            #107

            @m2c_n3e @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux glad to hear! Out of interest was your bank reported to be working?

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            • F-DroidF F-Droid

              The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

              If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

              https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

              We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

              Thank you for your support!

              Brad KoehnB This user is from outside of this forum
              Brad KoehnB This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote last edited by
              #108

              @fdroidorg But I thought โ€œopen always wins.โ€ ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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              • Brad KoehnB Brad Koehn

                @fdroidorg But I thought โ€œopen always wins.โ€ ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

                F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
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                F-Droid
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                #109

                @bkoehn

                #Google when talking in court against #EpicGames "we are open"

                Google when talking with #FLOSS devs: "not for you"

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                • fishliker12 F fishliker12
                  @fdroidorg @marcprux its a good thing actually as the main thing it affects is intimate partner violence stalking and really low hanging fruit malware. you can literally still sideload, you just cant distribute apks anonymously. you can still modify a phone to remove the restriction, just not without the owner noticing, which is the actual point. this is completely out of touch with the reality of the android malware ecosystem, the harm it causes and why they are actually doing this.
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                  LiquidParasyte
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                  #110

                  Having to pay a company and send your government id to that company, who will absolutely turn that data over to the government, is not an acceptable way to develop software.

                  Especially as that government is actively targeting dissenters and anyone who opposes them.

                  Especially as that company is making plans to go into the PC space, creating computers more locked down than Windows.

                  Especially as that company already has an 'anti-virus' activated on every Android licensed device by default that flags and prevents these malicious apps.

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                  • F-DroidF F-Droid

                    @bkoehn

                    #Google when talking in court against #EpicGames "we are open"

                    Google when talking with #FLOSS devs: "not for you"

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                    #111

                    @fdroidorg Yeah kind of my point. Your interests and Google's were never the same; they were aligned for a while and now they're not. It's the risk you took when you chose Android.

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                    • F-DroidF F-Droid

                      The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                      If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                      https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                      We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                      Thank you for your support!

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                      Alex Rock
                      wrote last edited by
                      #112

                      @fdroidorg Good to know that Google are keeping their track about "Apple-izing" themselves.

                      They just waited until there were absolutely zero competitor to close the whole thing.

                      Time to degoogleize all mobile OSes ๐Ÿ˜ฎโ€๐Ÿ’จ

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                      • LiquidParasyteL LiquidParasyte

                        Having to pay a company and send your government id to that company, who will absolutely turn that data over to the government, is not an acceptable way to develop software.

                        Especially as that government is actively targeting dissenters and anyone who opposes them.

                        Especially as that company is making plans to go into the PC space, creating computers more locked down than Windows.

                        Especially as that company already has an 'anti-virus' activated on every Android licensed device by default that flags and prevents these malicious apps.

                        fishliker12 F This user is from outside of this forum
                        fishliker12 F This user is from outside of this forum
                        fishliker12
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                        #113
                        @liquidparasyte @fdroidorg @marcprux Most open-source apps are already published to Google Play. I use a degoogled phone and this will not affect me in any way. It will absolutely affect people who will have to burn through disposable identities to develop malware.
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                        • fishliker12 F fishliker12
                          @liquidparasyte @fdroidorg @marcprux Most open-source apps are already published to Google Play. I use a degoogled phone and this will not affect me in any way. It will absolutely affect people who will have to burn through disposable identities to develop malware.
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                          LiquidParasyte
                          wrote last edited by
                          #114

                          It will also affect developers who choose to or have to stay anonymous to protect themselves from bad actors like rogue governments, and make it harder to develop software that authorities do not want made, such as emulation software, or adblocking tools and clients, or law enforcement raid watches.

                          Your personal exclusion from these restrictions does not solve the problem for developers, nor the majority of people who use Android who can't, don't know how to, or afford a degoogled device.

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                          • LiquidParasyteL LiquidParasyte

                            It will also affect developers who choose to or have to stay anonymous to protect themselves from bad actors like rogue governments, and make it harder to develop software that authorities do not want made, such as emulation software, or adblocking tools and clients, or law enforcement raid watches.

                            Your personal exclusion from these restrictions does not solve the problem for developers, nor the majority of people who use Android who can't, don't know how to, or afford a degoogled device.

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                            LiquidParasyte
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                            #115

                            And for the spyware and malware that has the widest impact: they will be unaffected, because they publish straight on the Play Store themselves.

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                            • LiquidParasyteL LiquidParasyte

                              It will also affect developers who choose to or have to stay anonymous to protect themselves from bad actors like rogue governments, and make it harder to develop software that authorities do not want made, such as emulation software, or adblocking tools and clients, or law enforcement raid watches.

                              Your personal exclusion from these restrictions does not solve the problem for developers, nor the majority of people who use Android who can't, don't know how to, or afford a degoogled device.

                              fishliker12 F This user is from outside of this forum
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                              fishliker12
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                              #116
                              @liquidparasyte @fdroidorg @marcprux ???
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                              • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                Thank you for your support!

                                Page AsgardiusA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Page Asgardius
                                wrote last edited by
                                #117

                                @fdroidorg @marcprux
                                This is the reason why i removed some of my apps from Play Store and i only develop with frameworks that allow creating apps that work with linux-first phones like Pinephone

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