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  3. The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

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  • F-DroidF F-Droid

    The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

    If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

    https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

    We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

    Thank you for your support!

    fishliker12 F This user is from outside of this forum
    fishliker12 F This user is from outside of this forum
    fishliker12
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    #61
    @fdroidorg @marcprux its a good thing actually as the main thing it affects is intimate partner violence stalking and really low hanging fruit malware. you can literally still sideload, you just cant distribute apks anonymously. you can still modify a phone to remove the restriction, just not without the owner noticing, which is the actual point. this is completely out of touch with the reality of the android malware ecosystem, the harm it causes and why they are actually doing this.
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    • F-DroidF F-Droid

      @apicultor Everything we do is transparent and public, eg. https://floss.social/@fdroidorg/116086537617519438

      Apicultor 🐝A This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote last edited by
      #62

      @fdroidorg
      Have you addressed the points made by the creator of #Wireguard regarding the security of your build infra?

      https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/-/issues/3110#note_1613430404

      Supply chain security is super-duper underrated. Thanks for the spotlight, Jia Tan!

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      • F-DroidF F-Droid

        The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

        If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

        https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

        We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

        Thank you for your support!

        DenizenD This user is from outside of this forum
        DenizenD This user is from outside of this forum
        Denizen
        wrote last edited by
        #63

        @fdroidorg @marcprux Contacted the Department of Justice and the US Federal Trade Commission with a request of acknowledgement from both. πŸ‘Œ

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        • F-DroidF F-Droid

          The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

          If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

          https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

          We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

          Thank you for your support!

          Simx72S This user is from outside of this forum
          Simx72S This user is from outside of this forum
          Simx72
          wrote last edited by
          #64

          @fdroidorg @marcprux will this affect lineage phones? (or any other roms)

          Directly or indirectly?

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          • F-DroidF F-Droid

            The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

            If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

            https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

            We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

            Thank you for your support!

            Jan Ulrich HaseckeJ This user is from outside of this forum
            Jan Ulrich HaseckeJ This user is from outside of this forum
            Jan Ulrich Hasecke
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            #65

            @marcprux @fdroidorg There ist no freedom in capitalism.

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            • F-DroidF F-Droid

              The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

              If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

              https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

              We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

              Thank you for your support!

              Jean-Paul LepineL This user is from outside of this forum
              Jean-Paul LepineL This user is from outside of this forum
              Jean-Paul Lepine
              wrote last edited by
              #66

              @fdroidorg @marcprux : pour ma part, j'ai un fairphone 4 avec e/os installΓ©, avec F-droid dedans depuis quelques annΓ©es dΓ©jΓ  et cette info ne me surprend nullement.

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              • F-DroidF F-Droid

                The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                Thank you for your support!

                SΓΆrenA This user is from outside of this forum
                SΓΆrenA This user is from outside of this forum
                SΓΆren
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                #67

                @fdroidorg @marcprux #e_mydata e/os is one of the aswers.

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                • F-DroidF F-Droid

                  The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                  If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                  https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                  We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                  Thank you for your support!

                  D This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Day
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                  #68

                  @techlore please make a video about it!

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                  • IzzyOnDroid βœ…I IzzyOnDroid βœ…

                    @fdroidorg @marcprux And while the banner correctly states F-Droid being under threat: it's not just F-Droid, it's the free Android world being under threat. In its entirety. So the same applies to IzzyOnDroid – but also to Obtainium & Co. And if you think you could still use Aurora to access the PlayStore, think again: how would you install Aurora in the first place?

                    This is the empire striking. The alleged "security" is just a way to circumvent the requirement to open for alternative stores.

                    ChucklesC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Chuckles
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                    #69

                    @IzzyOnDroid @fdroidorg @marcprux it is really surprising that the @EUCommission is okay with Google locking down our devices, digital sovereignty what-what?

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                    • uuΚŽβ„²F uuΚŽβ„²

                      @fdroidorg @marcprux
                      I did use the means on https://keepandroidopen.org to reach out. However, I am not convinced it will change the course Alphabet/Google set for Android.
                      Therefore I preordered the new #jollaphone with Sailfish OS and AndroidAppSupport.
                      Maybe it is time for Linux to shine on mobile as well. May it be #sailfishos, #postmarketos, #ubuntutouch or another Linux mobile OS. And Android emulators like #WayDroid .

                      MarcM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #70

                      @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux Android has lost its appeal to me as a target for development. I also may order a Jolla Phone at home point, but I need to be sure that my banking apps work with it.

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                      • F-DroidF F-Droid

                        The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                        If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                        https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                        We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                        Thank you for your support!

                        Dawn TΓ₯ke πŸŒ™ :sparkletrans:T This user is from outside of this forum
                        Dawn TΓ₯ke πŸŒ™ :sparkletrans:T This user is from outside of this forum
                        Dawn TΓ₯ke πŸŒ™ :sparkletrans:
                        wrote last edited by
                        #71

                        @fdroidorg
                        Ugh, looks like I might be using /e/OS sooner than expected.

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                        • fishliker12 F fishliker12
                          @fdroidorg @marcprux its a good thing actually as the main thing it affects is intimate partner violence stalking and really low hanging fruit malware. you can literally still sideload, you just cant distribute apks anonymously. you can still modify a phone to remove the restriction, just not without the owner noticing, which is the actual point. this is completely out of touch with the reality of the android malware ecosystem, the harm it causes and why they are actually doing this.
                          2something@transfem.social2 This user is from outside of this forum
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                          2something@transfem.social
                          wrote last edited by
                          #72

                          @fisk@little.tinypuppy.dog @fdroidorg@floss.social @marcprux@mastodon.social

                          The top grossing apps on Google Play in the U.S. are
                          1) Spyware and adware
                          2) Spyware and adware
                          3) Spyware and adware
                          4) Spyware and adware and rootkit
                          5) Spyware and adware
                          6) Spyware and adware and rootkit

                          I have a really hard time believing it's about "malware."

                          Also, how do you modify a phone to remove this restriction, assuming the manufacturer doesn't let you unlock the bootloader (as most don't)?

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                          • F-DroidF F-Droid

                            The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                            If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                            https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                            We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                            Thank you for your support!

                            moinM This user is from outside of this forum
                            moinM This user is from outside of this forum
                            moin
                            wrote last edited by
                            #73

                            @fdroidorg
                            Thank you for your amazing work. For me its time to switch to Linux in under 200 days.

                            @marcprux

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                            • 2something@transfem.social2 2something@transfem.social

                              @fisk@little.tinypuppy.dog @fdroidorg@floss.social @marcprux@mastodon.social

                              The top grossing apps on Google Play in the U.S. are
                              1) Spyware and adware
                              2) Spyware and adware
                              3) Spyware and adware
                              4) Spyware and adware and rootkit
                              5) Spyware and adware
                              6) Spyware and adware and rootkit

                              I have a really hard time believing it's about "malware."

                              Also, how do you modify a phone to remove this restriction, assuming the manufacturer doesn't let you unlock the bootloader (as most don't)?

                              fishliker12 F This user is from outside of this forum
                              fishliker12 F This user is from outside of this forum
                              fishliker12
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                              #74
                              @2something @fdroidorg @marcprux 1. I believe that it's specifically about stalkerware that gets distributed as sideloaded, anonymously signed APKs to avoid detection by Google Play Protect. I think this change will have a significant positive impact on the stalkerware market and result in a reduction in technology-facilitated intimate partner violence, making it a worthy tradeoff. Most open-source projects are not developed anonymously, and if developers don't want to get a certificate, nothing stops a third-party marketplace like F-Droid from building a signed, distributable APK for them. The same people complaining about this have already built the solution. "I'm altering the deal, pray I don't alter it further" just feels entitled and missing the point entirely.
                              2. I would specifically get a phone with an unlocked bootloader, because I want to run free and open source software on it, as I already have. I don't want other people tampering with my phone and requiring messing with the bootloader and performing a factory reset (which i would notice) to sideload untrusted apps is a security feature I want.

                              If you don't like it, try coming up with a better solution, or you know, try doing some work with victims of stalking by intimate partners to realize it is actually a much bigger problem for them than whatever spying Google Play Services is doing. Have a good day.
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                              • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                Thank you for your support!

                                CIMB4C This user is from outside of this forum
                                CIMB4C This user is from outside of this forum
                                CIMB4
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                                #75

                                @fdroidorg i hope @shiftphones has planned for this already

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                                • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                  The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                  If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                  https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                  We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                  Thank you for your support!

                                  yianirisY This user is from outside of this forum
                                  yianirisY This user is from outside of this forum
                                  yianiris
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #76

                                  We don't have representatives, we live in capitalism. All those elected to run government represent multinational industries and their federation, banks and financial institutions. We are their enemy, they are not going to listen.

                                  Unless....

                                  We force them to listen

                                  @fdroidorg @marcprux

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                                  • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                    The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                    If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                    https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                    We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                    Thank you for your support!

                                    paradoxP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    paradox
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #77

                                    You have to know how to make a report correctly. It's not for average doomscroller.

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                                    • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                      @crazyeddie Is the "United States" section is not enough, we might need some better pointers.

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                                      #78

                                      @fdroidorg @crazyeddie

                                      What @crazyeddie is trying to say: standing up for openness, freedom, and the right to choose your own tools only makes sense in a society where openness, freedom, rights or even rational discourse still have any meaning at all. The US is probably no longer such a society.

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                                      • James BilsbroughJ James Bilsbrough

                                        @fdroidorg hey gang, I host @crossed, would anyone from the F-Droid team like to come chat to us about this and why this fundamentally breaks the Android promise?

                                        Marc Prud'hommeauxM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Marc Prud'hommeaux
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #79

                                        @jsbilsbrough @fdroidorg I'd be happy to chat. Message or email me and we can set up a time.

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                                        • nicolaottomanoN nicolaottomano

                                          @fdroidorg @marcprux

                                          Tagging @EUCommission

                                          *_jayropeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          *_jayrope
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                                          #80
                                          @nicolaottomano Oh, that'll work. πŸ˜‰
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