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The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

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  • Toughest Bastard on the FediT Toughest Bastard on the Fedi

    @fdroidorg @marcprux
    How will this effect LineageOS and other android alternatives?

    F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
    F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
    F-Droid
    wrote last edited by
    #55

    @TTFKA_Tay0 To be fair, they are not alternatives, they use the same code, and are at the mercy of Google when it comes to releasing such code. Otherwise, once installed, Lineage and other Android distributions can give the freedom back to their users to install what they want.

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    • F-DroidF F-Droid

      The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

      If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

      https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

      We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

      Thank you for your support!

      Roberto PlàR This user is from outside of this forum
      Roberto PlàR This user is from outside of this forum
      Roberto Plà
      wrote last edited by
      #56

      @fdroidorg @marcprux
      Si china puede hacer un clon de Android, ¿Acaso no puede hacerlo Europa?
      ¿Para cuando un Linux para dispositivos móviles?
      ¿hasta cuando seguiremos siendo vasallos de las multinacionales norteamericanas?
      ¿Para cuando nuestra delcaración de Soberania Digital?

      ¡Sin Soberania Digital no hay libertad, independencia ni democrácia!

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      • Al & Val's Modern HomesteadingA Al & Val's Modern Homesteading

        @fdroidorg Maybe a Federated Fone?

        Maximilian Overdraft, Esq.A This user is from outside of this forum
        Maximilian Overdraft, Esq.A This user is from outside of this forum
        Maximilian Overdraft, Esq.
        wrote last edited by
        #57

        @alandvalonline @fdroidorg

        I also wish for this. Linux drivers for legacy phone hardware, a Chromebook level of simplicity for installing or running variant UX's, maybe from a removable card or USB stick... A secure OS like Tails... Siloed apps... I don't want corporate access to any data.
        ..

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        • F-DroidF F-Droid

          The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

          If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

          https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

          We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

          Thank you for your support!

          jmjmJ This user is from outside of this forum
          jmjmJ This user is from outside of this forum
          jmjm
          wrote last edited by
          #58

          @fdroidorg @marcprux

          unfortunately my country has crashed. Abort, retry, fail?

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          • F-DroidF F-Droid

            The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

            If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

            https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

            We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

            Thank you for your support!

            Apicultor 🐝A This user is from outside of this forum
            Apicultor 🐝A This user is from outside of this forum
            Apicultor 🐝
            wrote last edited by
            #59

            @fdroidorg
            Did you secure your build environment yet? Why must you re-sign everything instead of using signed artifacts from developers?

            Until then, #Obtainium.

            @marcprux

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            • Apicultor 🐝A Apicultor 🐝

              @fdroidorg
              Did you secure your build environment yet? Why must you re-sign everything instead of using signed artifacts from developers?

              Until then, #Obtainium.

              @marcprux

              F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
              F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
              F-Droid
              wrote last edited by
              #60

              @apicultor Everything we do is transparent and public, eg. https://floss.social/@fdroidorg/116086537617519438

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              • F-DroidF F-Droid

                The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                Thank you for your support!

                fishliker12 F This user is from outside of this forum
                fishliker12 F This user is from outside of this forum
                fishliker12
                wrote last edited by
                #61
                @fdroidorg @marcprux its a good thing actually as the main thing it affects is intimate partner violence stalking and really low hanging fruit malware. you can literally still sideload, you just cant distribute apks anonymously. you can still modify a phone to remove the restriction, just not without the owner noticing, which is the actual point. this is completely out of touch with the reality of the android malware ecosystem, the harm it causes and why they are actually doing this.
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                • F-DroidF F-Droid

                  @apicultor Everything we do is transparent and public, eg. https://floss.social/@fdroidorg/116086537617519438

                  Apicultor 🐝A This user is from outside of this forum
                  Apicultor 🐝A This user is from outside of this forum
                  Apicultor 🐝
                  wrote last edited by
                  #62

                  @fdroidorg
                  Have you addressed the points made by the creator of #Wireguard regarding the security of your build infra?

                  https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/-/issues/3110#note_1613430404

                  Supply chain security is super-duper underrated. Thanks for the spotlight, Jia Tan!

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                  • F-DroidF F-Droid

                    The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                    If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                    https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                    We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                    Thank you for your support!

                    DenizenD This user is from outside of this forum
                    DenizenD This user is from outside of this forum
                    Denizen
                    wrote last edited by
                    #63

                    @fdroidorg @marcprux Contacted the Department of Justice and the US Federal Trade Commission with a request of acknowledgement from both. 👌

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                    • F-DroidF F-Droid

                      The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                      If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                      https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                      We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                      Thank you for your support!

                      Simx72S This user is from outside of this forum
                      Simx72S This user is from outside of this forum
                      Simx72
                      wrote last edited by
                      #64

                      @fdroidorg @marcprux will this affect lineage phones? (or any other roms)

                      Directly or indirectly?

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                      • F-DroidF F-Droid

                        The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                        If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                        https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                        We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                        Thank you for your support!

                        Jan Ulrich HaseckeJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        Jan Ulrich HaseckeJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        Jan Ulrich Hasecke
                        wrote last edited by
                        #65

                        @marcprux @fdroidorg There ist no freedom in capitalism.

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                        • F-DroidF F-Droid

                          The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                          If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                          https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                          We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                          Thank you for your support!

                          Jean-Paul LepineL This user is from outside of this forum
                          Jean-Paul LepineL This user is from outside of this forum
                          Jean-Paul Lepine
                          wrote last edited by
                          #66

                          @fdroidorg @marcprux : pour ma part, j'ai un fairphone 4 avec e/os installé, avec F-droid dedans depuis quelques années déjà et cette info ne me surprend nullement.

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                          • F-DroidF F-Droid

                            The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                            If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                            https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                            We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                            Thank you for your support!

                            SörenA This user is from outside of this forum
                            SörenA This user is from outside of this forum
                            Sören
                            wrote last edited by
                            #67

                            @fdroidorg @marcprux #e_mydata e/os is one of the aswers.

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                            • F-DroidF F-Droid

                              The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                              If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                              https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                              We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                              Thank you for your support!

                              D This user is from outside of this forum
                              D This user is from outside of this forum
                              Day
                              wrote last edited by
                              #68

                              @techlore please make a video about it!

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                              • IzzyOnDroid ✅I IzzyOnDroid ✅

                                @fdroidorg @marcprux And while the banner correctly states F-Droid being under threat: it's not just F-Droid, it's the free Android world being under threat. In its entirety. So the same applies to IzzyOnDroid – but also to Obtainium & Co. And if you think you could still use Aurora to access the PlayStore, think again: how would you install Aurora in the first place?

                                This is the empire striking. The alleged "security" is just a way to circumvent the requirement to open for alternative stores.

                                ChucklesC This user is from outside of this forum
                                ChucklesC This user is from outside of this forum
                                Chuckles
                                wrote last edited by
                                #69

                                @IzzyOnDroid @fdroidorg @marcprux it is really surprising that the @EUCommission is okay with Google locking down our devices, digital sovereignty what-what?

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                                • uuʎℲF uuʎℲ

                                  @fdroidorg @marcprux
                                  I did use the means on https://keepandroidopen.org to reach out. However, I am not convinced it will change the course Alphabet/Google set for Android.
                                  Therefore I preordered the new #jollaphone with Sailfish OS and AndroidAppSupport.
                                  Maybe it is time for Linux to shine on mobile as well. May it be #sailfishos, #postmarketos, #ubuntutouch or another Linux mobile OS. And Android emulators like #WayDroid .

                                  MarcM This user is from outside of this forum
                                  MarcM This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Marc
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #70

                                  @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux Android has lost its appeal to me as a target for development. I also may order a Jolla Phone at home point, but I need to be sure that my banking apps work with it.

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                                  • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                    The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                    If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                    https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                    We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                    Thank you for your support!

                                    Dawn Tåke 🌙 :sparkletrans:T This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Dawn Tåke 🌙 :sparkletrans:T This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Dawn Tåke 🌙 :sparkletrans:
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #71

                                    @fdroidorg
                                    Ugh, looks like I might be using /e/OS sooner than expected.

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                                    • fishliker12 F fishliker12
                                      @fdroidorg @marcprux its a good thing actually as the main thing it affects is intimate partner violence stalking and really low hanging fruit malware. you can literally still sideload, you just cant distribute apks anonymously. you can still modify a phone to remove the restriction, just not without the owner noticing, which is the actual point. this is completely out of touch with the reality of the android malware ecosystem, the harm it causes and why they are actually doing this.
                                      2something@transfem.social2 This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      2something@transfem.social
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #72

                                      @fisk@little.tinypuppy.dog @fdroidorg@floss.social @marcprux@mastodon.social

                                      The top grossing apps on Google Play in the U.S. are
                                      1) Spyware and adware
                                      2) Spyware and adware
                                      3) Spyware and adware
                                      4) Spyware and adware and rootkit
                                      5) Spyware and adware
                                      6) Spyware and adware and rootkit

                                      I have a really hard time believing it's about "malware."

                                      Also, how do you modify a phone to remove this restriction, assuming the manufacturer doesn't let you unlock the bootloader (as most don't)?

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                                      • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                        The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                        If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                        https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                        We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                        Thank you for your support!

                                        moinM This user is from outside of this forum
                                        moinM This user is from outside of this forum
                                        moin
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #73

                                        @fdroidorg
                                        Thank you for your amazing work. For me its time to switch to Linux in under 200 days.

                                        @marcprux

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                                        • 2something@transfem.social2 2something@transfem.social

                                          @fisk@little.tinypuppy.dog @fdroidorg@floss.social @marcprux@mastodon.social

                                          The top grossing apps on Google Play in the U.S. are
                                          1) Spyware and adware
                                          2) Spyware and adware
                                          3) Spyware and adware
                                          4) Spyware and adware and rootkit
                                          5) Spyware and adware
                                          6) Spyware and adware and rootkit

                                          I have a really hard time believing it's about "malware."

                                          Also, how do you modify a phone to remove this restriction, assuming the manufacturer doesn't let you unlock the bootloader (as most don't)?

                                          fishliker12 F This user is from outside of this forum
                                          fishliker12 F This user is from outside of this forum
                                          fishliker12
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #74
                                          @2something @fdroidorg @marcprux 1. I believe that it's specifically about stalkerware that gets distributed as sideloaded, anonymously signed APKs to avoid detection by Google Play Protect. I think this change will have a significant positive impact on the stalkerware market and result in a reduction in technology-facilitated intimate partner violence, making it a worthy tradeoff. Most open-source projects are not developed anonymously, and if developers don't want to get a certificate, nothing stops a third-party marketplace like F-Droid from building a signed, distributable APK for them. The same people complaining about this have already built the solution. "I'm altering the deal, pray I don't alter it further" just feels entitled and missing the point entirely.
                                          2. I would specifically get a phone with an unlocked bootloader, because I want to run free and open source software on it, as I already have. I don't want other people tampering with my phone and requiring messing with the bootloader and performing a factory reset (which i would notice) to sideload untrusted apps is a security feature I want.

                                          If you don't like it, try coming up with a better solution, or you know, try doing some work with victims of stalking by intimate partners to realize it is actually a much bigger problem for them than whatever spying Google Play Services is doing. Have a good day.
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