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The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

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  • F-DroidF F-Droid

    The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

    If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

    https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

    We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

    Thank you for your support!

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    #46

    @fdroidorg Done!

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    • StuT Stu

      @Alonely0 @cy8aer @fdroidorg @marcprux

      I read some of those threads linked from the discuss link. This whole situation is exhausting. Multiple ways to get screwed over on multiple fronts. The layman has no chance to understand any of this.

      And then, of course, you'll get a pithy "use ubuntu" reply to these threads, which is fine if you have one of the 12 old phones supported by it.

      I don't know what the solution is, but if the answer is "get the apk from github and ensure you trust the dev" then essentially everyone is screwed.

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      #47

      @tehstu @cy8aer @fdroidorg @marcprux yeah, it's a technical discussion, sorry I assumed more than I should have (it's an xkcd 2501 situation, look it up lol). However, I have to say that relying on GitHub releases is not that bad of a deal with an app store like Obtainium, which streamlines app updates. It's actually a quite secure model since it comes as straight from the developer as it possibly can.

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      • F-DroidF F-Droid

        The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

        If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

        https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

        We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

        Thank you for your support!

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        #48

        @fdroidorg @marcprux Wow, a crucial warning! โš ๏ธ It's time to be vigilant and take action to keep Android open and our privacy safe.

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        • Alonely0 ๐Ÿฆ€ ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บA Alonely0 ๐Ÿฆ€ ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ

          @tehstu @cy8aer @fdroidorg @marcprux yeah, it's a technical discussion, sorry I assumed more than I should have (it's an xkcd 2501 situation, look it up lol). However, I have to say that relying on GitHub releases is not that bad of a deal with an app store like Obtainium, which streamlines app updates. It's actually a quite secure model since it comes as straight from the developer as it possibly can.

          F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
          F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
          F-Droid
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          #49

          @Alonely0 @tehstu @cy8aer Note that Obtainium, Aurora and other app stores will have the same issues on 99.9999% of devices if Google goes ahead. Regarding "secure", do read https://f-droid.org/docs/Inclusion_How-To/#reproducible-builds too.

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          • F-DroidF F-Droid

            The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

            If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

            https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

            We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

            Thank you for your support!

            Toughest Bastard on the FediT This user is from outside of this forum
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            Toughest Bastard on the Fedi
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            #50

            @fdroidorg @marcprux
            How will this effect LineageOS and other android alternatives?

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            • F-DroidF F-Droid

              @Alonely0 @tehstu @cy8aer Note that Obtainium, Aurora and other app stores will have the same issues on 99.9999% of devices if Google goes ahead. Regarding "secure", do read https://f-droid.org/docs/Inclusion_How-To/#reproducible-builds too.

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              #51

              @fdroidorg @tehstu @cy8aer of course. It's a battle we fight together regardless of preference for app stores or ROMs. Ty for attaching sources!

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              • F-DroidF F-Droid

                The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                Thank you for your support!

                PreukP This user is from outside of this forum
                PreukP This user is from outside of this forum
                Preuk
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                #52

                @fdroidorg @marcprux
                Got a quick answer from EU's DMA Team, they might have a standard response due to high demand :

                > Dear citizen,
                >
                > Thank you for contacting us and sharing your concerns regarding the impact of Googleโ€™s plans to introduce a developer verification process on Android. We appreciate that you have chosen to contact us, as we welcome feedback from interested parties.
                ... 1/N

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                • PreukP Preuk

                  @fdroidorg @marcprux
                  Got a quick answer from EU's DMA Team, they might have a standard response due to high demand :

                  > Dear citizen,
                  >
                  > Thank you for contacting us and sharing your concerns regarding the impact of Googleโ€™s plans to introduce a developer verification process on Android. We appreciate that you have chosen to contact us, as we welcome feedback from interested parties.
                  ... 1/N

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                  Preuk
                  wrote last edited by
                  #53

                  > As you may be aware, the Digital Markets Act (โ€˜DMAโ€™) obliges gatekeepers like Google to effectively allow the distribution of apps on their operating system through third party app stores or the web. At the same time, the DMA also permits Google to introduce strictly necessary and proportionate measures to ensure that third-party software apps or app stores do not endanger the integrity of the hardware or operating system or to enable end users to effectively protect security.
                  ... 2/3

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                  • zetabetaZ zetabeta

                    @fdroidorg @marcprux
                    i don't like to downplay f-droid efforts, or spread pessimism.

                    still, my unfortunate opinion. android starts to be lost cause, too much gooish google in it, like there is apple control in apple devices.

                    it is not just closed google components, it is android ecosystem and api's in general. alphabet inc controls android too much.

                    of course, delaying destruction of open android is still beneficial for short term.

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                    #54

                    @zetabeta
                    My phone runs Android, my parents' too.
                    Google is going to prevent us from installing what we want on devices where we had been able to until now.
                    Devices that we bought and that will still be perfectly functioning 5 years from now.
                    Hence why this is a fight worth fighting.
                    @fdroidorg @marcprux

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                    • Toughest Bastard on the FediT Toughest Bastard on the Fedi

                      @fdroidorg @marcprux
                      How will this effect LineageOS and other android alternatives?

                      F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #55

                      @TTFKA_Tay0 To be fair, they are not alternatives, they use the same code, and are at the mercy of Google when it comes to releasing such code. Otherwise, once installed, Lineage and other Android distributions can give the freedom back to their users to install what they want.

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                      • F-DroidF F-Droid

                        The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                        If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                        https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                        We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                        Thank you for your support!

                        Roberto Plร R This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Roberto Plร 
                        wrote last edited by
                        #56

                        @fdroidorg @marcprux
                        Si china puede hacer un clon de Android, ยฟAcaso no puede hacerlo Europa?
                        ยฟPara cuando un Linux para dispositivos mรณviles?
                        ยฟhasta cuando seguiremos siendo vasallos de las multinacionales norteamericanas?
                        ยฟPara cuando nuestra delcaraciรณn de Soberania Digital?

                        ยกSin Soberania Digital no hay libertad, independencia ni democrรกcia!

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                        • Al & Val's Modern HomesteadingA Al & Val's Modern Homesteading

                          @fdroidorg Maybe a Federated Fone?

                          Maximilian Overdraft, Esq.A This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Maximilian Overdraft, Esq.
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                          #57

                          @alandvalonline @fdroidorg

                          I also wish for this. Linux drivers for legacy phone hardware, a Chromebook level of simplicity for installing or running variant UX's, maybe from a removable card or USB stick... A secure OS like Tails... Siloed apps... I don't want corporate access to any data.
                          ..

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                          • F-DroidF F-Droid

                            The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                            If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                            https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                            We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                            Thank you for your support!

                            jmjmJ This user is from outside of this forum
                            jmjmJ This user is from outside of this forum
                            jmjm
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                            #58

                            @fdroidorg @marcprux

                            unfortunately my country has crashed. Abort, retry, fail?

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                            • F-DroidF F-Droid

                              The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                              If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                              https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                              We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                              Thank you for your support!

                              Apicultor ๐ŸA This user is from outside of this forum
                              Apicultor ๐ŸA This user is from outside of this forum
                              Apicultor ๐Ÿ
                              wrote last edited by
                              #59

                              @fdroidorg
                              Did you secure your build environment yet? Why must you re-sign everything instead of using signed artifacts from developers?

                              Until then, #Obtainium.

                              @marcprux

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                              • Apicultor ๐ŸA Apicultor ๐Ÿ

                                @fdroidorg
                                Did you secure your build environment yet? Why must you re-sign everything instead of using signed artifacts from developers?

                                Until then, #Obtainium.

                                @marcprux

                                F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
                                F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
                                F-Droid
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                                #60

                                @apicultor Everything we do is transparent and public, eg. https://floss.social/@fdroidorg/116086537617519438

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                                • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                  The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                  If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                  https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                  We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                  Thank you for your support!

                                  fishliker12 F This user is from outside of this forum
                                  fishliker12 F This user is from outside of this forum
                                  fishliker12
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                                  #61
                                  @fdroidorg @marcprux its a good thing actually as the main thing it affects is intimate partner violence stalking and really low hanging fruit malware. you can literally still sideload, you just cant distribute apks anonymously. you can still modify a phone to remove the restriction, just not without the owner noticing, which is the actual point. this is completely out of touch with the reality of the android malware ecosystem, the harm it causes and why they are actually doing this.
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                                  • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                    @apicultor Everything we do is transparent and public, eg. https://floss.social/@fdroidorg/116086537617519438

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                                    Apicultor ๐Ÿ
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                                    #62

                                    @fdroidorg
                                    Have you addressed the points made by the creator of #Wireguard regarding the security of your build infra?

                                    https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/-/issues/3110#note_1613430404

                                    Supply chain security is super-duper underrated. Thanks for the spotlight, Jia Tan!

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                                    • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                      The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                      If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                      https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                      We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                      Thank you for your support!

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                                      DenizenD This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Denizen
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                                      #63

                                      @fdroidorg @marcprux Contacted the Department of Justice and the US Federal Trade Commission with a request of acknowledgement from both. ๐Ÿ‘Œ

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                                      • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                        The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                        If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                        https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                        We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                        Thank you for your support!

                                        Simx72S This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Simx72S This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Simx72
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #64

                                        @fdroidorg @marcprux will this affect lineage phones? (or any other roms)

                                        Directly or indirectly?

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                                        • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                          The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                          If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                          https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                          We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                          Thank you for your support!

                                          Jan Ulrich HaseckeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Jan Ulrich Hasecke
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                                          #65

                                          @marcprux @fdroidorg There ist no freedom in capitalism.

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