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The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

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  • Alonely0 🦀 🇪🇺A Alonely0 🦀 🇪🇺

    @tehstu @cy8aer @fdroidorg @marcprux yeah, it's a technical discussion, sorry I assumed more than I should have (it's an xkcd 2501 situation, look it up lol). However, I have to say that relying on GitHub releases is not that bad of a deal with an app store like Obtainium, which streamlines app updates. It's actually a quite secure model since it comes as straight from the developer as it possibly can.

    F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
    F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
    F-Droid
    wrote last edited by
    #49

    @Alonely0 @tehstu @cy8aer Note that Obtainium, Aurora and other app stores will have the same issues on 99.9999% of devices if Google goes ahead. Regarding "secure", do read https://f-droid.org/docs/Inclusion_How-To/#reproducible-builds too.

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    • F-DroidF F-Droid

      The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

      If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

      https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

      We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

      Thank you for your support!

      Toughest Bastard on the FediT This user is from outside of this forum
      Toughest Bastard on the FediT This user is from outside of this forum
      Toughest Bastard on the Fedi
      wrote last edited by
      #50

      @fdroidorg @marcprux
      How will this effect LineageOS and other android alternatives?

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      • F-DroidF F-Droid

        @Alonely0 @tehstu @cy8aer Note that Obtainium, Aurora and other app stores will have the same issues on 99.9999% of devices if Google goes ahead. Regarding "secure", do read https://f-droid.org/docs/Inclusion_How-To/#reproducible-builds too.

        Alonely0 🦀 🇪🇺A This user is from outside of this forum
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        Alonely0 🦀 🇪🇺
        wrote last edited by
        #51

        @fdroidorg @tehstu @cy8aer of course. It's a battle we fight together regardless of preference for app stores or ROMs. Ty for attaching sources!

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        • F-DroidF F-Droid

          The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

          If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

          https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

          We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

          Thank you for your support!

          PreukP This user is from outside of this forum
          PreukP This user is from outside of this forum
          Preuk
          wrote last edited by
          #52

          @fdroidorg @marcprux
          Got a quick answer from EU's DMA Team, they might have a standard response due to high demand :

          > Dear citizen,
          >
          > Thank you for contacting us and sharing your concerns regarding the impact of Google’s plans to introduce a developer verification process on Android. We appreciate that you have chosen to contact us, as we welcome feedback from interested parties.
          ... 1/N

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          • PreukP Preuk

            @fdroidorg @marcprux
            Got a quick answer from EU's DMA Team, they might have a standard response due to high demand :

            > Dear citizen,
            >
            > Thank you for contacting us and sharing your concerns regarding the impact of Google’s plans to introduce a developer verification process on Android. We appreciate that you have chosen to contact us, as we welcome feedback from interested parties.
            ... 1/N

            PreukP This user is from outside of this forum
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            Preuk
            wrote last edited by
            #53

            > As you may be aware, the Digital Markets Act (‘DMA’) obliges gatekeepers like Google to effectively allow the distribution of apps on their operating system through third party app stores or the web. At the same time, the DMA also permits Google to introduce strictly necessary and proportionate measures to ensure that third-party software apps or app stores do not endanger the integrity of the hardware or operating system or to enable end users to effectively protect security.
            ... 2/3

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            • zetabetaZ zetabeta

              @fdroidorg @marcprux
              i don't like to downplay f-droid efforts, or spread pessimism.

              still, my unfortunate opinion. android starts to be lost cause, too much gooish google in it, like there is apple control in apple devices.

              it is not just closed google components, it is android ecosystem and api's in general. alphabet inc controls android too much.

              of course, delaying destruction of open android is still beneficial for short term.

              Kilgore TroutK This user is from outside of this forum
              Kilgore TroutK This user is from outside of this forum
              Kilgore Trout
              wrote last edited by
              #54

              @zetabeta
              My phone runs Android, my parents' too.
              Google is going to prevent us from installing what we want on devices where we had been able to until now.
              Devices that we bought and that will still be perfectly functioning 5 years from now.
              Hence why this is a fight worth fighting.
              @fdroidorg @marcprux

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              • Toughest Bastard on the FediT Toughest Bastard on the Fedi

                @fdroidorg @marcprux
                How will this effect LineageOS and other android alternatives?

                F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
                F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
                F-Droid
                wrote last edited by
                #55

                @TTFKA_Tay0 To be fair, they are not alternatives, they use the same code, and are at the mercy of Google when it comes to releasing such code. Otherwise, once installed, Lineage and other Android distributions can give the freedom back to their users to install what they want.

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                • F-DroidF F-Droid

                  The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                  If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                  https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                  We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                  Thank you for your support!

                  Roberto PlàR This user is from outside of this forum
                  Roberto PlàR This user is from outside of this forum
                  Roberto Plà
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                  #56

                  @fdroidorg @marcprux
                  Si china puede hacer un clon de Android, ¿Acaso no puede hacerlo Europa?
                  ¿Para cuando un Linux para dispositivos móviles?
                  ¿hasta cuando seguiremos siendo vasallos de las multinacionales norteamericanas?
                  ¿Para cuando nuestra delcaración de Soberania Digital?

                  ¡Sin Soberania Digital no hay libertad, independencia ni democrácia!

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                  • Al & Val's Modern HomesteadingA Al & Val's Modern Homesteading

                    @fdroidorg Maybe a Federated Fone?

                    Maximilian Overdraft, Esq.A This user is from outside of this forum
                    Maximilian Overdraft, Esq.A This user is from outside of this forum
                    Maximilian Overdraft, Esq.
                    wrote last edited by
                    #57

                    @alandvalonline @fdroidorg

                    I also wish for this. Linux drivers for legacy phone hardware, a Chromebook level of simplicity for installing or running variant UX's, maybe from a removable card or USB stick... A secure OS like Tails... Siloed apps... I don't want corporate access to any data.
                    ..

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                    • F-DroidF F-Droid

                      The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                      If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                      https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                      We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                      Thank you for your support!

                      jmjmJ This user is from outside of this forum
                      jmjmJ This user is from outside of this forum
                      jmjm
                      wrote last edited by
                      #58

                      @fdroidorg @marcprux

                      unfortunately my country has crashed. Abort, retry, fail?

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                      • F-DroidF F-Droid

                        The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                        If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                        https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                        We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                        Thank you for your support!

                        Apicultor 🐝A This user is from outside of this forum
                        Apicultor 🐝A This user is from outside of this forum
                        Apicultor 🐝
                        wrote last edited by
                        #59

                        @fdroidorg
                        Did you secure your build environment yet? Why must you re-sign everything instead of using signed artifacts from developers?

                        Until then, #Obtainium.

                        @marcprux

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                        • Apicultor 🐝A Apicultor 🐝

                          @fdroidorg
                          Did you secure your build environment yet? Why must you re-sign everything instead of using signed artifacts from developers?

                          Until then, #Obtainium.

                          @marcprux

                          F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
                          F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
                          F-Droid
                          wrote last edited by
                          #60

                          @apicultor Everything we do is transparent and public, eg. https://floss.social/@fdroidorg/116086537617519438

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                          • F-DroidF F-Droid

                            The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                            If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                            https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                            We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                            Thank you for your support!

                            fishliker12 F This user is from outside of this forum
                            fishliker12 F This user is from outside of this forum
                            fishliker12
                            wrote last edited by
                            #61
                            @fdroidorg @marcprux its a good thing actually as the main thing it affects is intimate partner violence stalking and really low hanging fruit malware. you can literally still sideload, you just cant distribute apks anonymously. you can still modify a phone to remove the restriction, just not without the owner noticing, which is the actual point. this is completely out of touch with the reality of the android malware ecosystem, the harm it causes and why they are actually doing this.
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                            • F-DroidF F-Droid

                              @apicultor Everything we do is transparent and public, eg. https://floss.social/@fdroidorg/116086537617519438

                              Apicultor 🐝A This user is from outside of this forum
                              Apicultor 🐝A This user is from outside of this forum
                              Apicultor 🐝
                              wrote last edited by
                              #62

                              @fdroidorg
                              Have you addressed the points made by the creator of #Wireguard regarding the security of your build infra?

                              https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/-/issues/3110#note_1613430404

                              Supply chain security is super-duper underrated. Thanks for the spotlight, Jia Tan!

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                              • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                Thank you for your support!

                                DenizenD This user is from outside of this forum
                                DenizenD This user is from outside of this forum
                                Denizen
                                wrote last edited by
                                #63

                                @fdroidorg @marcprux Contacted the Department of Justice and the US Federal Trade Commission with a request of acknowledgement from both. 👌

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                                • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                  The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                  If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                  https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                  We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                  Thank you for your support!

                                  Simx72S This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Simx72S This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Simx72
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #64

                                  @fdroidorg @marcprux will this affect lineage phones? (or any other roms)

                                  Directly or indirectly?

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                                  • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                    The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                    If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                    https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                    We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                    Thank you for your support!

                                    Jan Ulrich HaseckeJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Jan Ulrich HaseckeJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Jan Ulrich Hasecke
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #65

                                    @marcprux @fdroidorg There ist no freedom in capitalism.

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                                    • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                      The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                      If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                      https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                      We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                      Thank you for your support!

                                      Jean-Paul LepineL This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Jean-Paul LepineL This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Jean-Paul Lepine
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #66

                                      @fdroidorg @marcprux : pour ma part, j'ai un fairphone 4 avec e/os installé, avec F-droid dedans depuis quelques années déjà et cette info ne me surprend nullement.

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                                      • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                        The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                        If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                        https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                        We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                        Thank you for your support!

                                        SörenA This user is from outside of this forum
                                        SörenA This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Sören
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #67

                                        @fdroidorg @marcprux #e_mydata e/os is one of the aswers.

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                                        • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                          The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                          If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                          https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                          We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                          Thank you for your support!

                                          D This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Day
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #68

                                          @techlore please make a video about it!

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