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The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

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  • F-DroidF F-Droid

    @Alonely0 @tehstu @cy8aer Note that Obtainium, Aurora and other app stores will have the same issues on 99.9999% of devices if Google goes ahead. Regarding "secure", do read https://f-droid.org/docs/Inclusion_How-To/#reproducible-builds too.

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    #51

    @fdroidorg @tehstu @cy8aer of course. It's a battle we fight together regardless of preference for app stores or ROMs. Ty for attaching sources!

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    • F-DroidF F-Droid

      The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

      If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

      https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

      We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

      Thank you for your support!

      PreukP This user is from outside of this forum
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      Preuk
      wrote last edited by
      #52

      @fdroidorg @marcprux
      Got a quick answer from EU's DMA Team, they might have a standard response due to high demand :

      > Dear citizen,
      >
      > Thank you for contacting us and sharing your concerns regarding the impact of Googleโ€™s plans to introduce a developer verification process on Android. We appreciate that you have chosen to contact us, as we welcome feedback from interested parties.
      ... 1/N

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      • PreukP Preuk

        @fdroidorg @marcprux
        Got a quick answer from EU's DMA Team, they might have a standard response due to high demand :

        > Dear citizen,
        >
        > Thank you for contacting us and sharing your concerns regarding the impact of Googleโ€™s plans to introduce a developer verification process on Android. We appreciate that you have chosen to contact us, as we welcome feedback from interested parties.
        ... 1/N

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        Preuk
        wrote last edited by
        #53

        > As you may be aware, the Digital Markets Act (โ€˜DMAโ€™) obliges gatekeepers like Google to effectively allow the distribution of apps on their operating system through third party app stores or the web. At the same time, the DMA also permits Google to introduce strictly necessary and proportionate measures to ensure that third-party software apps or app stores do not endanger the integrity of the hardware or operating system or to enable end users to effectively protect security.
        ... 2/3

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        • zetabetaZ zetabeta

          @fdroidorg @marcprux
          i don't like to downplay f-droid efforts, or spread pessimism.

          still, my unfortunate opinion. android starts to be lost cause, too much gooish google in it, like there is apple control in apple devices.

          it is not just closed google components, it is android ecosystem and api's in general. alphabet inc controls android too much.

          of course, delaying destruction of open android is still beneficial for short term.

          Kilgore TroutK This user is from outside of this forum
          Kilgore TroutK This user is from outside of this forum
          Kilgore Trout
          wrote last edited by
          #54

          @zetabeta
          My phone runs Android, my parents' too.
          Google is going to prevent us from installing what we want on devices where we had been able to until now.
          Devices that we bought and that will still be perfectly functioning 5 years from now.
          Hence why this is a fight worth fighting.
          @fdroidorg @marcprux

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          • Toughest Bastard on the FediT Toughest Bastard on the Fedi

            @fdroidorg @marcprux
            How will this effect LineageOS and other android alternatives?

            F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
            F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
            F-Droid
            wrote last edited by
            #55

            @TTFKA_Tay0 To be fair, they are not alternatives, they use the same code, and are at the mercy of Google when it comes to releasing such code. Otherwise, once installed, Lineage and other Android distributions can give the freedom back to their users to install what they want.

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            • F-DroidF F-Droid

              The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

              If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

              https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

              We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

              Thank you for your support!

              Roberto Plร R This user is from outside of this forum
              Roberto Plร R This user is from outside of this forum
              Roberto Plร 
              wrote last edited by
              #56

              @fdroidorg @marcprux
              Si china puede hacer un clon de Android, ยฟAcaso no puede hacerlo Europa?
              ยฟPara cuando un Linux para dispositivos mรณviles?
              ยฟhasta cuando seguiremos siendo vasallos de las multinacionales norteamericanas?
              ยฟPara cuando nuestra delcaraciรณn de Soberania Digital?

              ยกSin Soberania Digital no hay libertad, independencia ni democrรกcia!

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              • Al & Val's Modern HomesteadingA Al & Val's Modern Homesteading

                @fdroidorg Maybe a Federated Fone?

                Maximilian Overdraft, Esq.A This user is from outside of this forum
                Maximilian Overdraft, Esq.A This user is from outside of this forum
                Maximilian Overdraft, Esq.
                wrote last edited by
                #57

                @alandvalonline @fdroidorg

                I also wish for this. Linux drivers for legacy phone hardware, a Chromebook level of simplicity for installing or running variant UX's, maybe from a removable card or USB stick... A secure OS like Tails... Siloed apps... I don't want corporate access to any data.
                ..

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                • F-DroidF F-Droid

                  The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                  If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                  https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                  We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                  Thank you for your support!

                  jmjmJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  jmjmJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  jmjm
                  wrote last edited by
                  #58

                  @fdroidorg @marcprux

                  unfortunately my country has crashed. Abort, retry, fail?

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                  • F-DroidF F-Droid

                    The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                    If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                    https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                    We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                    Thank you for your support!

                    Apicultor ๐ŸA This user is from outside of this forum
                    Apicultor ๐ŸA This user is from outside of this forum
                    Apicultor ๐Ÿ
                    wrote last edited by
                    #59

                    @fdroidorg
                    Did you secure your build environment yet? Why must you re-sign everything instead of using signed artifacts from developers?

                    Until then, #Obtainium.

                    @marcprux

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                    • Apicultor ๐ŸA Apicultor ๐Ÿ

                      @fdroidorg
                      Did you secure your build environment yet? Why must you re-sign everything instead of using signed artifacts from developers?

                      Until then, #Obtainium.

                      @marcprux

                      F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
                      F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
                      F-Droid
                      wrote last edited by
                      #60

                      @apicultor Everything we do is transparent and public, eg. https://floss.social/@fdroidorg/116086537617519438

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                      • F-DroidF F-Droid

                        The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                        If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                        https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                        We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                        Thank you for your support!

                        fishliker12 F This user is from outside of this forum
                        fishliker12 F This user is from outside of this forum
                        fishliker12
                        wrote last edited by
                        #61
                        @fdroidorg @marcprux its a good thing actually as the main thing it affects is intimate partner violence stalking and really low hanging fruit malware. you can literally still sideload, you just cant distribute apks anonymously. you can still modify a phone to remove the restriction, just not without the owner noticing, which is the actual point. this is completely out of touch with the reality of the android malware ecosystem, the harm it causes and why they are actually doing this.
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                        • F-DroidF F-Droid

                          @apicultor Everything we do is transparent and public, eg. https://floss.social/@fdroidorg/116086537617519438

                          Apicultor ๐ŸA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Apicultor ๐Ÿ
                          wrote last edited by
                          #62

                          @fdroidorg
                          Have you addressed the points made by the creator of #Wireguard regarding the security of your build infra?

                          https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/-/issues/3110#note_1613430404

                          Supply chain security is super-duper underrated. Thanks for the spotlight, Jia Tan!

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                          • F-DroidF F-Droid

                            The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                            If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                            https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                            We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                            Thank you for your support!

                            DenizenD This user is from outside of this forum
                            DenizenD This user is from outside of this forum
                            Denizen
                            wrote last edited by
                            #63

                            @fdroidorg @marcprux Contacted the Department of Justice and the US Federal Trade Commission with a request of acknowledgement from both. ๐Ÿ‘Œ

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                            • F-DroidF F-Droid

                              The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                              If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                              https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                              We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                              Thank you for your support!

                              Simx72S This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Simx72
                              wrote last edited by
                              #64

                              @fdroidorg @marcprux will this affect lineage phones? (or any other roms)

                              Directly or indirectly?

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                              • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                Thank you for your support!

                                Jan Ulrich HaseckeJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                Jan Ulrich HaseckeJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                Jan Ulrich Hasecke
                                wrote last edited by
                                #65

                                @marcprux @fdroidorg There ist no freedom in capitalism.

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                                • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                  The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                  If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                  https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                  We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                  Thank you for your support!

                                  Jean-Paul LepineL This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Jean-Paul LepineL This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Jean-Paul Lepine
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #66

                                  @fdroidorg @marcprux : pour ma part, j'ai un fairphone 4 avec e/os installรฉ, avec F-droid dedans depuis quelques annรฉes dรฉjร  et cette info ne me surprend nullement.

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                                  • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                    The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                    If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                    https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                    We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                    Thank you for your support!

                                    SรถrenA This user is from outside of this forum
                                    SรถrenA This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Sรถren
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #67

                                    @fdroidorg @marcprux #e_mydata e/os is one of the aswers.

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                                    • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                      The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                      If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                      https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                      We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                      Thank you for your support!

                                      D This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Day
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #68

                                      @techlore please make a video about it!

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                                      • IzzyOnDroid โœ…I IzzyOnDroid โœ…

                                        @fdroidorg @marcprux And while the banner correctly states F-Droid being under threat: it's not just F-Droid, it's the free Android world being under threat. In its entirety. So the same applies to IzzyOnDroid โ€“ but also to Obtainium & Co. And if you think you could still use Aurora to access the PlayStore, think again: how would you install Aurora in the first place?

                                        This is the empire striking. The alleged "security" is just a way to circumvent the requirement to open for alternative stores.

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                                        Chuckles
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #69

                                        @IzzyOnDroid @fdroidorg @marcprux it is really surprising that the @EUCommission is okay with Google locking down our devices, digital sovereignty what-what?

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                                        • uuสŽโ„ฒF uuสŽโ„ฒ

                                          @fdroidorg @marcprux
                                          I did use the means on https://keepandroidopen.org to reach out. However, I am not convinced it will change the course Alphabet/Google set for Android.
                                          Therefore I preordered the new #jollaphone with Sailfish OS and AndroidAppSupport.
                                          Maybe it is time for Linux to shine on mobile as well. May it be #sailfishos, #postmarketos, #ubuntutouch or another Linux mobile OS. And Android emulators like #WayDroid .

                                          MarcM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Marc
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #70

                                          @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux Android has lost its appeal to me as a target for development. I also may order a Jolla Phone at home point, but I need to be sure that my banking apps work with it.

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