Kyle Rittenhouse walked up to police carrying an assault weapon during protests in Kenosha, then killed people, and Conservatives called him a hero.
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@darwinwoodka @augieray it won't really bother them until it comes to the Hamptons & the Vineyard.
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@rpin42 You're not wrong, but we need to be clear that the answer is "non-violent protests." The response from police and officials is on them, not on the protesters.
@augieray @rpin42@mastodonapp.uk absolutely agree. Just felt in the moment that the risks need to be acknowledged. This guy is very good on non-violent direct action and protest if you can sort though all the other stuff https://youtube.com/@roger_hallam?si=aW_L1TUKLLbhKaqN
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Today, right-wing accounts on X are posting that ICE and the US are doing “pretti good.” “Don't tread on me” has turned to “Tread on the liberals all you want.”
Trump has flooded Minnesota, which has an estimated undocumented population of around 100,000 (https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/unauthorized-immigrants-country-region), with thousands of masked, armed agents while ignoring red states such as Texas (with 2 million undocumented) and Florida (1.2 million).
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@augieray So red states are the real sanctuary states?
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We're entering dangerous times. After the Renee Good and Alex Pretti murders, federal officials rushed to label them terrorists while clearly lying about the evidence we could all see from videos of the events. Meanwhile, all the loudest voices who said we need the Second Amendment to fight a tyrannical government are now vocally blaming Good for “not complying” and Pretti for being armed.
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@augieray entering?! Got there a while ago
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@Mab_813 Thanks for adding absolutely nothing to the conversation. How about we START by urging Americans to protest and worry, after they do, if that works? For now, instead of criticizing the approach or the messengers, why isn't it enough for you to merely say, "Yes, this is what we need?"
I just wrote that protests are vital in the US right now, apparently you didn't read that part?
Why are you repeating the 3,5 % rule when it has been debunked years ago?
Obviously protests have worked in many cases, but there isn't a magical 3,5 % threshold, so I don't get why people keep repeating that number.
The protests and actions by Minnesotans are very impressive and inspiring (another part of my post that you just jumped over, apparently). And I don't need to "urge" US Americans to protest as a European (= from the outside), they're already doing that, and risking their lives, as Minneapolis has shown.
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I just wrote that protests are vital in the US right now, apparently you didn't read that part?
Why are you repeating the 3,5 % rule when it has been debunked years ago?
Obviously protests have worked in many cases, but there isn't a magical 3,5 % threshold, so I don't get why people keep repeating that number.
The protests and actions by Minnesotans are very impressive and inspiring (another part of my post that you just jumped over, apparently). And I don't need to "urge" US Americans to protest as a European (= from the outside), they're already doing that, and risking their lives, as Minneapolis has shown.
@Mab_813 Congrats. People like you are arguing with those trying to make a difference. MAGA, Trump and Russia thank you. Keep up the good work.
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@augieray
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Kyle Rittenhouse walked up to police carrying an assault weapon during protests in Kenosha, then killed people, and Conservatives called him a hero.
Alex Pretti filmed officers during a protest, kept his handgun holstered, was wrestled to the ground, had his weapon taken away, and then was shot dead, and Conservatives are calling him a terrorist.
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@augieray We’ve been seeing this for decades. They aren’t people. Right wingers say whatever they’re told to (no beliefs), rage against evidence of their ignorance (can’t learn and think), and feel nothing at the sight of atrocities (no emotions).
So they have no principles nor values, no thoughts, and no emotional motivations. Therefore they can’t possibly have agency. There’s nothing to derive it from.
They’re not people.
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Kyle Rittenhouse walked up to police carrying an assault weapon during protests in Kenosha, then killed people, and Conservatives called him a hero.
Alex Pretti filmed officers during a protest, kept his handgun holstered, was wrestled to the ground, had his weapon taken away, and then was shot dead, and Conservatives are calling him a terrorist.
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Actions by this government in '25, '26 is the reason for Kyle Rittenhouse getting away with murder. No different than the get out of jail free card Trump was dealt by the billionaires owning the DOJ for those 34 felonies ignored by the press. All illegal actions that will not end until we end their terrorism.
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@Mab_813 Congrats. People like you are arguing with those trying to make a difference. MAGA, Trump and Russia thank you. Keep up the good work.
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@starlily I'm not the one fighting, "Chief." In a world where people can pick fights with MAGAts and conservatives, it pisses me off when people want to pick fights with people with whom they agree because they think they got one point of their argument incorrect.
Seriously, train your fire on the people destroying democracy. Not the people you disagree with when they say 3.5% of the populace protesting can make a difference.
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@Mab_813 Congrats. People like you are arguing with those trying to make a difference. MAGA, Trump and Russia thank you. Keep up the good work.
I don't know how often I have to repeat that Minnesotans are impressive in their actions against ICE.
You are clearly not reading my posts. -
Kyle Rittenhouse walked up to police carrying an assault weapon during protests in Kenosha, then killed people, and Conservatives called him a hero.
Alex Pretti filmed officers during a protest, kept his handgun holstered, was wrestled to the ground, had his weapon taken away, and then was shot dead, and Conservatives are calling him a terrorist.
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@augieray Are there no members of the US legal profession incensed enough to demand that murderers in cold blood are not brought to trial? Have legal workers been told to stay mute?
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@augieray Are there no members of the US legal profession incensed enough to demand that murderers in cold blood are not brought to trial? Have legal workers been told to stay mute?
@NicelyManifest There are lawyers fighting for the right side. And Trump is losing many cases. But with government agencies purging attorneys who don't agree and many Trump-appointed lawyers protecting him, it isn't a cut-and-dried situation. Making arguments to biased courts isn't always a solution.
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@Mab_813 Congrats. People like you are arguing with those trying to make a difference. MAGA, Trump and Russia thank you. Keep up the good work.
@augieray there are very few protests in Minnesota. The vast majority of what's happening is not protests, but folks observing and documenting crimes, helping their neighbors, and other forms of non-protest direct action. @Mab_813 is raising very good and important points and your inexplicably hostile, hair trigger reaction does not inspire confidence. Please reconsider, these conversations are important!
Signed, 20-year resident of the twin cities, child refugee from a totalitarian regime, protester, conscientious objector, etc
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@augieray @rpin42@mastodonapp.uk absolutely agree. Just felt in the moment that the risks need to be acknowledged. This guy is very good on non-violent direct action and protest if you can sort though all the other stuff https://youtube.com/@roger_hallam?si=aW_L1TUKLLbhKaqN
@rpin42@mastodon.social @augieray @rpin42@mastodonapp.uk The best non-violent action is a general strike. So long as we look out for each other, no one is harmed from it (other than the system).
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After all, this is the president who casually suggested a couple of weeks ago that “when you think of it, we shouldn't even have an election.” (https://www.reuters.com/world/us/five-takeaways-reuters-interview-president-trump-2026-01-15/#:~:text=%E2%80%9Cwhen%20you%20think%20of%20it%2C%20we%20shouldn%27t%20even%20have%20an%20election.%E2%80%9D)
Legal experts continue to assert Trump doesn't have the power to stop the midterms (https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/17/politics/midterm-elections-trump-2026-analysis), but this is a president who claims unlimited power, has ignored court orders and rulings, and is protected by a biased Supreme Court.
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Protected by a christo-fascist supreme court, you mean. They are traitors working to overthrow the constitution.
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Today, right-wing accounts on X are posting that ICE and the US are doing “pretti good.” “Don't tread on me” has turned to “Tread on the liberals all you want.”
Trump has flooded Minnesota, which has an estimated undocumented population of around 100,000 (https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/unauthorized-immigrants-country-region), with thousands of masked, armed agents while ignoring red states such as Texas (with 2 million undocumented) and Florida (1.2 million).
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@augieray
> “Don't tread on me” has turned to “Tread on the liberals all you want.”It always was.
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@starlily I'm not the one fighting, "Chief." In a world where people can pick fights with MAGAts and conservatives, it pisses me off when people want to pick fights with people with whom they agree because they think they got one point of their argument incorrect.
Seriously, train your fire on the people destroying democracy. Not the people you disagree with when they say 3.5% of the populace protesting can make a difference.
@augieray
The poster (and I) largely agree with your points. I personally feel you are over reacting to starting a discussion about one of them.It is important to be open to dialog about things you present in public. We are here in this world to educate and entertain each other, and part of that is listening when you might be wrong, instead of insisting you are infallible.
This isnt a fight, its a discussion. Think about where you are firing, too.
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Today, right-wing accounts on X are posting that ICE and the US are doing “pretti good.” “Don't tread on me” has turned to “Tread on the liberals all you want.”
Trump has flooded Minnesota, which has an estimated undocumented population of around 100,000 (https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/unauthorized-immigrants-country-region), with thousands of masked, armed agents while ignoring red states such as Texas (with 2 million undocumented) and Florida (1.2 million).
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@augieray 100K ICE agents is a huge number. That many people have a large logistics footprint - they all need beds, and food, and places to poop.
Seems to me it would be useful to know where all of them sleep and where they buy their food.
