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Wikipedia’s editors and readers have a dangerous generational gap.

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  • d@nny disc@ mc²H d@nny disc@ mc²

    @abucci @ieeespectrum i haven't forgiven them for their hit piece on louis pouzin and the OSI where the author cackled over IBM's ability to distort and break down the international collaboration. https://spectrum.ieee.org/osi-the-internet-that-wasnt they are a fundamentally immoral institution

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    @abucci @ieeespectrum IBM and the Holocaust was not yet published at the time

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    • David GerardD David Gerard

      RE: https://mastodon.social/@ieeespectrum/116059551433682789

      > The volunteer community that built this encyclopedia has lately rejected a key innovation designed to serve readers.

      this specifically means: they rejected covering WIkipedia in AI slop. This means a generational gap apparently. ok mate

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      @davidgerard @ieeespectrum
      the fucking gall of evoking Elinor Ostrom's work (a lazy misreading of it, even) to suggest that Wikipedia should allow walled garden-erecting, anti-commons monopolists to poison Wikipedia with slop. absolutely, insultingly absurd. no notes.

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      • David GerardD David Gerard

        RE: https://mastodon.social/@ieeespectrum/116059551433682789

        > The volunteer community that built this encyclopedia has lately rejected a key innovation designed to serve readers.

        this specifically means: they rejected covering WIkipedia in AI slop. This means a generational gap apparently. ok mate

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        @davidgerard there’s nothing the kids crave more than LinkedIn-style chatbot slop pushed into one of the last usable websites by a professional engineering organization from 1963 they can’t afford to join

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        • David GerardD David Gerard

          RE: https://mastodon.social/@ieeespectrum/116059551433682789

          > The volunteer community that built this encyclopedia has lately rejected a key innovation designed to serve readers.

          this specifically means: they rejected covering WIkipedia in AI slop. This means a generational gap apparently. ok mate

          Janne UplaG This user is from outside of this forum
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          @davidgerard
          The author really needs to get in the fucking sea.

          "But the volunteer base is aging. A 2010 study found the average Wikipedia contributor was in their mid-twenties; today, many of those same editors are now in their forties or fifties."

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          • David GerardD David Gerard

            RE: https://mastodon.social/@ieeespectrum/116059551433682789

            > The volunteer community that built this encyclopedia has lately rejected a key innovation designed to serve readers.

            this specifically means: they rejected covering WIkipedia in AI slop. This means a generational gap apparently. ok mate

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            #17

            @davidgerard come on IEEE, leave Wikipedia alone: if you dont like the truth then you can just go and use an already existing 100% private enterprise AI slop-ipidia; Elon Musk's very own Grokipedia (no I won't link to it).

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            • [object Object]Z [object Object]

              @davidgerard there’s nothing the kids crave more than LinkedIn-style chatbot slop pushed into one of the last usable websites by a professional engineering organization from 1963 they can’t afford to join

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              @zzt @davidgerard

              Gen Z and Gen Alpha readers are accustomed to TikTok, YouTube, and mobile-first visual media.

              Ah, I love sweeping generalisations over how (il)literate young people are.

              Tell me you don't know the youth of today without telling me you don't know the youth of today

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              • IEEE SpectrumI IEEE Spectrum

                Wikipedia’s editors and readers have a dangerous generational gap. Can it become something that serves younger audiences, or will it remain stuck in the past? https://spectrum.ieee.org/wikipedia-at-25?utm_source=mastodon&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fedica-Mastodon-Daily-Pipeline

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                @ieeespectrum Counterpoint: It serves younger readers best by not allowing AI to fill it with garbage and lies.

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                • David GerardD David Gerard

                  RE: https://mastodon.social/@ieeespectrum/116059551433682789

                  > The volunteer community that built this encyclopedia has lately rejected a key innovation designed to serve readers.

                  this specifically means: they rejected covering WIkipedia in AI slop. This means a generational gap apparently. ok mate

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                  #20

                  @davidgerard although I agree on keeping AI out, I do think the article is a bit more nuanced.

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                  • generic holiday season bribS generic holiday season brib

                    @zzt @davidgerard

                    Gen Z and Gen Alpha readers are accustomed to TikTok, YouTube, and mobile-first visual media.

                    Ah, I love sweeping generalisations over how (il)literate young people are.

                    Tell me you don't know the youth of today without telling me you don't know the youth of today

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                    @sitcom_nemesis @davidgerard I’m imagining the hell wikipedia they’re proposing, where the dreadful generative voice used for TikTok conspiracy videos narrates a slop video extruded from a prompt like “make a 2 minute video from this text” followed by the now-inaccessible last human-written version of the Wikipedia article for the topic at hand

                    this is hurting my head

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                    • IEEE SpectrumI IEEE Spectrum

                      Wikipedia’s editors and readers have a dangerous generational gap. Can it become something that serves younger audiences, or will it remain stuck in the past? https://spectrum.ieee.org/wikipedia-at-25?utm_source=mastodon&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fedica-Mastodon-Daily-Pipeline

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                      #22

                      @ieeespectrum have you ever considered that the current generation did not ask for AI and according to any anecdotal and scientific evidence I have seen, is not benefiting from it?

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                      • IEEE SpectrumI IEEE Spectrum

                        Wikipedia’s editors and readers have a dangerous generational gap. Can it become something that serves younger audiences, or will it remain stuck in the past? https://spectrum.ieee.org/wikipedia-at-25?utm_source=mastodon&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fedica-Mastodon-Daily-Pipeline

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                        @ieeespectrum

                        The reason Wikipedia doesn't have younger editors is because the onboarding experience as a contributor is equivalent to the question asking experience on Stack Overflow.

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                        • IEEE SpectrumI IEEE Spectrum

                          Wikipedia’s editors and readers have a dangerous generational gap. Can it become something that serves younger audiences, or will it remain stuck in the past? https://spectrum.ieee.org/wikipedia-at-25?utm_source=mastodon&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fedica-Mastodon-Daily-Pipeline

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                          @ieeespectrum Reported for misinformation.

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