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Wikipedia’s editors and readers have a dangerous generational gap.

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  • IEEE SpectrumI IEEE Spectrum

    Wikipedia’s editors and readers have a dangerous generational gap. Can it become something that serves younger audiences, or will it remain stuck in the past? https://spectrum.ieee.org/wikipedia-at-25?utm_source=mastodon&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fedica-Mastodon-Daily-Pipeline

    MatthewR This user is from outside of this forum
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    @ieeespectrum

    “Giving users agency over Wikipedia’s rules, as I’ve discovered in some of my own studies of Wikipedia, can lead an institution away ultimately from the needs of those the institution serves.”

    Holy shit, this sentence got away from you. Did you even read it?

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    • d@nny disc@ mc²H d@nny disc@ mc²

      @abucci @ieeespectrum i haven't forgiven them for their hit piece on louis pouzin and the OSI where the author cackled over IBM's ability to distort and break down the international collaboration. https://spectrum.ieee.org/osi-the-internet-that-wasnt they are a fundamentally immoral institution

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      @abucci @ieeespectrum IBM and the Holocaust was not yet published at the time

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      • David GerardD David Gerard

        RE: https://mastodon.social/@ieeespectrum/116059551433682789

        > The volunteer community that built this encyclopedia has lately rejected a key innovation designed to serve readers.

        this specifically means: they rejected covering WIkipedia in AI slop. This means a generational gap apparently. ok mate

        LinaL This user is from outside of this forum
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        @davidgerard @ieeespectrum
        the fucking gall of evoking Elinor Ostrom's work (a lazy misreading of it, even) to suggest that Wikipedia should allow walled garden-erecting, anti-commons monopolists to poison Wikipedia with slop. absolutely, insultingly absurd. no notes.

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        • David GerardD David Gerard

          RE: https://mastodon.social/@ieeespectrum/116059551433682789

          > The volunteer community that built this encyclopedia has lately rejected a key innovation designed to serve readers.

          this specifically means: they rejected covering WIkipedia in AI slop. This means a generational gap apparently. ok mate

          [object Object]Z This user is from outside of this forum
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          @davidgerard there’s nothing the kids crave more than LinkedIn-style chatbot slop pushed into one of the last usable websites by a professional engineering organization from 1963 they can’t afford to join

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          • David GerardD David Gerard

            RE: https://mastodon.social/@ieeespectrum/116059551433682789

            > The volunteer community that built this encyclopedia has lately rejected a key innovation designed to serve readers.

            this specifically means: they rejected covering WIkipedia in AI slop. This means a generational gap apparently. ok mate

            Janne UplaG This user is from outside of this forum
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            @davidgerard
            The author really needs to get in the fucking sea.

            "But the volunteer base is aging. A 2010 study found the average Wikipedia contributor was in their mid-twenties; today, many of those same editors are now in their forties or fifties."

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            • David GerardD David Gerard

              RE: https://mastodon.social/@ieeespectrum/116059551433682789

              > The volunteer community that built this encyclopedia has lately rejected a key innovation designed to serve readers.

              this specifically means: they rejected covering WIkipedia in AI slop. This means a generational gap apparently. ok mate

              MarjorieRM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #17

              @davidgerard come on IEEE, leave Wikipedia alone: if you dont like the truth then you can just go and use an already existing 100% private enterprise AI slop-ipidia; Elon Musk's very own Grokipedia (no I won't link to it).

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              • [object Object]Z [object Object]

                @davidgerard there’s nothing the kids crave more than LinkedIn-style chatbot slop pushed into one of the last usable websites by a professional engineering organization from 1963 they can’t afford to join

                generic holiday season bribS This user is from outside of this forum
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                @zzt @davidgerard

                Gen Z and Gen Alpha readers are accustomed to TikTok, YouTube, and mobile-first visual media.

                Ah, I love sweeping generalisations over how (il)literate young people are.

                Tell me you don't know the youth of today without telling me you don't know the youth of today

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                • IEEE SpectrumI IEEE Spectrum

                  Wikipedia’s editors and readers have a dangerous generational gap. Can it become something that serves younger audiences, or will it remain stuck in the past? https://spectrum.ieee.org/wikipedia-at-25?utm_source=mastodon&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fedica-Mastodon-Daily-Pipeline

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                  #19

                  @ieeespectrum Counterpoint: It serves younger readers best by not allowing AI to fill it with garbage and lies.

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                  • David GerardD David Gerard

                    RE: https://mastodon.social/@ieeespectrum/116059551433682789

                    > The volunteer community that built this encyclopedia has lately rejected a key innovation designed to serve readers.

                    this specifically means: they rejected covering WIkipedia in AI slop. This means a generational gap apparently. ok mate

                    Jeroen BosmanJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @davidgerard although I agree on keeping AI out, I do think the article is a bit more nuanced.

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                    • generic holiday season bribS generic holiday season brib

                      @zzt @davidgerard

                      Gen Z and Gen Alpha readers are accustomed to TikTok, YouTube, and mobile-first visual media.

                      Ah, I love sweeping generalisations over how (il)literate young people are.

                      Tell me you don't know the youth of today without telling me you don't know the youth of today

                      [object Object]Z This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @sitcom_nemesis @davidgerard I’m imagining the hell wikipedia they’re proposing, where the dreadful generative voice used for TikTok conspiracy videos narrates a slop video extruded from a prompt like “make a 2 minute video from this text” followed by the now-inaccessible last human-written version of the Wikipedia article for the topic at hand

                      this is hurting my head

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                      • IEEE SpectrumI IEEE Spectrum

                        Wikipedia’s editors and readers have a dangerous generational gap. Can it become something that serves younger audiences, or will it remain stuck in the past? https://spectrum.ieee.org/wikipedia-at-25?utm_source=mastodon&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fedica-Mastodon-Daily-Pipeline

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                        @ieeespectrum have you ever considered that the current generation did not ask for AI and according to any anecdotal and scientific evidence I have seen, is not benefiting from it?

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                        • IEEE SpectrumI IEEE Spectrum

                          Wikipedia’s editors and readers have a dangerous generational gap. Can it become something that serves younger audiences, or will it remain stuck in the past? https://spectrum.ieee.org/wikipedia-at-25?utm_source=mastodon&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fedica-Mastodon-Daily-Pipeline

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                          @ieeespectrum

                          The reason Wikipedia doesn't have younger editors is because the onboarding experience as a contributor is equivalent to the question asking experience on Stack Overflow.

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                          • IEEE SpectrumI IEEE Spectrum

                            Wikipedia’s editors and readers have a dangerous generational gap. Can it become something that serves younger audiences, or will it remain stuck in the past? https://spectrum.ieee.org/wikipedia-at-25?utm_source=mastodon&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fedica-Mastodon-Daily-Pipeline

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                            @ieeespectrum Reported for misinformation.

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