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Wikipedia’s editors and readers have a dangerous generational gap.

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  • IEEE SpectrumI IEEE Spectrum

    Wikipedia’s editors and readers have a dangerous generational gap. Can it become something that serves younger audiences, or will it remain stuck in the past? https://spectrum.ieee.org/wikipedia-at-25?utm_source=mastodon&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fedica-Mastodon-Daily-Pipeline

    d@nny disc@ mc²H This user is from outside of this forum
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    d@nny disc@ mc²
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    @ieeespectrum ieee is what's washed up

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    • David GerardD David Gerard

      RE: https://mastodon.social/@ieeespectrum/116059551433682789

      > The volunteer community that built this encyclopedia has lately rejected a key innovation designed to serve readers.

      this specifically means: they rejected covering WIkipedia in AI slop. This means a generational gap apparently. ok mate

      arestelleA This user is from outside of this forum
      arestelleA This user is from outside of this forum
      arestelle
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      #4

      @davidgerard caring about facts is being stuck in the past, got it

      It is so weird that Wikipedia is a rare bastion of truth and journalism now

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      • IEEE SpectrumI IEEE Spectrum

        Wikipedia’s editors and readers have a dangerous generational gap. Can it become something that serves younger audiences, or will it remain stuck in the past? https://spectrum.ieee.org/wikipedia-at-25?utm_source=mastodon&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fedica-Mastodon-Daily-Pipeline

        AnthonyA This user is from outside of this forum
        AnthonyA This user is from outside of this forum
        Anthony
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        #5
        What's with the scaremongering AI shilling here, @ieeespectrum@mastodon.social?

        Also, "generational gap"? Are you going to tell us next that millennials eat too much avocado toast?

        #AI #AIHype #AIShill #OldManYellsAtCloud
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        • IEEE SpectrumI IEEE Spectrum

          Wikipedia’s editors and readers have a dangerous generational gap. Can it become something that serves younger audiences, or will it remain stuck in the past? https://spectrum.ieee.org/wikipedia-at-25?utm_source=mastodon&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fedica-Mastodon-Daily-Pipeline

          Jared White (ResistanceNet ✊)J This user is from outside of this forum
          Jared White (ResistanceNet ✊)J This user is from outside of this forum
          Jared White (ResistanceNet ✊)
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          #6

          @ieeespectrum Um, wow this is bad. Slopaganda in the guise of a hit piece against Wikipedia is unethical dross on multiple levels. Shame on you for publishing this.

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          • d@nny disc@ mc²H d@nny disc@ mc²

            @ieeespectrum ieee is what's washed up

            AnthonyA This user is from outside of this forum
            AnthonyA This user is from outside of this forum
            Anthony
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            #7
            They're going to tell us next that millennials eat too much avocado toast and that's why they still live in apartments and don't appreciate AI. Or something.

            CC: @ieeespectrum@mastodon.social
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            • David GerardD David Gerard

              RE: https://mastodon.social/@ieeespectrum/116059551433682789

              > The volunteer community that built this encyclopedia has lately rejected a key innovation designed to serve readers.

              this specifically means: they rejected covering WIkipedia in AI slop. This means a generational gap apparently. ok mate

              mtc_ukM This user is from outside of this forum
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              mtc_uk
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              @davidgerard @ieeespectrum
              Welp, fuck IEEE Spectrum, I guess.

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              • IEEE SpectrumI IEEE Spectrum

                Wikipedia’s editors and readers have a dangerous generational gap. Can it become something that serves younger audiences, or will it remain stuck in the past? https://spectrum.ieee.org/wikipedia-at-25?utm_source=mastodon&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fedica-Mastodon-Daily-Pipeline

                The Orange ThemeT This user is from outside of this forum
                The Orange ThemeT This user is from outside of this forum
                The Orange Theme
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                @ieeespectrum Fuck off with the slopaganda.

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                • AnthonyA Anthony
                  They're going to tell us next that millennials eat too much avocado toast and that's why they still live in apartments and don't appreciate AI. Or something.

                  CC: @ieeespectrum@mastodon.social
                  d@nny disc@ mc²H This user is from outside of this forum
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                  d@nny disc@ mc²
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                  @abucci @ieeespectrum i haven't forgiven them for their hit piece on louis pouzin and the OSI where the author cackled over IBM's ability to distort and break down the international collaboration. https://spectrum.ieee.org/osi-the-internet-that-wasnt they are a fundamentally immoral institution

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                  • IEEE SpectrumI IEEE Spectrum

                    Wikipedia’s editors and readers have a dangerous generational gap. Can it become something that serves younger audiences, or will it remain stuck in the past? https://spectrum.ieee.org/wikipedia-at-25?utm_source=mastodon&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fedica-Mastodon-Daily-Pipeline

                    Grumble 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 🇬🇱G This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #11

                    @ieeespectrum As an IEEE member for 26 years, I'm embarrassed and saddened by the Spectrum editors publishing this half-ass hit piece against Wikipedia.

                    Do better, folks. Your decision to publish this brings no credit upon yourselves or to our organization. Maybe stick closer to topics like electronics.

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                    • IEEE SpectrumI IEEE Spectrum

                      Wikipedia’s editors and readers have a dangerous generational gap. Can it become something that serves younger audiences, or will it remain stuck in the past? https://spectrum.ieee.org/wikipedia-at-25?utm_source=mastodon&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fedica-Mastodon-Daily-Pipeline

                      MatthewR This user is from outside of this forum
                      MatthewR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #12

                      @ieeespectrum

                      “Giving users agency over Wikipedia’s rules, as I’ve discovered in some of my own studies of Wikipedia, can lead an institution away ultimately from the needs of those the institution serves.”

                      Holy shit, this sentence got away from you. Did you even read it?

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                      • d@nny disc@ mc²H d@nny disc@ mc²

                        @abucci @ieeespectrum i haven't forgiven them for their hit piece on louis pouzin and the OSI where the author cackled over IBM's ability to distort and break down the international collaboration. https://spectrum.ieee.org/osi-the-internet-that-wasnt they are a fundamentally immoral institution

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                        @abucci @ieeespectrum IBM and the Holocaust was not yet published at the time

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                        • David GerardD David Gerard

                          RE: https://mastodon.social/@ieeespectrum/116059551433682789

                          > The volunteer community that built this encyclopedia has lately rejected a key innovation designed to serve readers.

                          this specifically means: they rejected covering WIkipedia in AI slop. This means a generational gap apparently. ok mate

                          LinaL This user is from outside of this forum
                          LinaL This user is from outside of this forum
                          Lina
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                          @davidgerard @ieeespectrum
                          the fucking gall of evoking Elinor Ostrom's work (a lazy misreading of it, even) to suggest that Wikipedia should allow walled garden-erecting, anti-commons monopolists to poison Wikipedia with slop. absolutely, insultingly absurd. no notes.

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                          • David GerardD David Gerard

                            RE: https://mastodon.social/@ieeespectrum/116059551433682789

                            > The volunteer community that built this encyclopedia has lately rejected a key innovation designed to serve readers.

                            this specifically means: they rejected covering WIkipedia in AI slop. This means a generational gap apparently. ok mate

                            [object Object]Z This user is from outside of this forum
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                            [object Object]
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                            #15

                            @davidgerard there’s nothing the kids crave more than LinkedIn-style chatbot slop pushed into one of the last usable websites by a professional engineering organization from 1963 they can’t afford to join

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                            • David GerardD David Gerard

                              RE: https://mastodon.social/@ieeespectrum/116059551433682789

                              > The volunteer community that built this encyclopedia has lately rejected a key innovation designed to serve readers.

                              this specifically means: they rejected covering WIkipedia in AI slop. This means a generational gap apparently. ok mate

                              Janne UplaG This user is from outside of this forum
                              Janne UplaG This user is from outside of this forum
                              Janne Upla
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                              @davidgerard
                              The author really needs to get in the fucking sea.

                              "But the volunteer base is aging. A 2010 study found the average Wikipedia contributor was in their mid-twenties; today, many of those same editors are now in their forties or fifties."

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                              • David GerardD David Gerard

                                RE: https://mastodon.social/@ieeespectrum/116059551433682789

                                > The volunteer community that built this encyclopedia has lately rejected a key innovation designed to serve readers.

                                this specifically means: they rejected covering WIkipedia in AI slop. This means a generational gap apparently. ok mate

                                MarjorieRM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                MarjorieR
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                                @davidgerard come on IEEE, leave Wikipedia alone: if you dont like the truth then you can just go and use an already existing 100% private enterprise AI slop-ipidia; Elon Musk's very own Grokipedia (no I won't link to it).

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                                • [object Object]Z [object Object]

                                  @davidgerard there’s nothing the kids crave more than LinkedIn-style chatbot slop pushed into one of the last usable websites by a professional engineering organization from 1963 they can’t afford to join

                                  generic holiday season bribS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  generic holiday season brib
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                                  @zzt @davidgerard

                                  Gen Z and Gen Alpha readers are accustomed to TikTok, YouTube, and mobile-first visual media.

                                  Ah, I love sweeping generalisations over how (il)literate young people are.

                                  Tell me you don't know the youth of today without telling me you don't know the youth of today

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                                  • IEEE SpectrumI IEEE Spectrum

                                    Wikipedia’s editors and readers have a dangerous generational gap. Can it become something that serves younger audiences, or will it remain stuck in the past? https://spectrum.ieee.org/wikipedia-at-25?utm_source=mastodon&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fedica-Mastodon-Daily-Pipeline

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                                    @ieeespectrum Counterpoint: It serves younger readers best by not allowing AI to fill it with garbage and lies.

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                                    • David GerardD David Gerard

                                      RE: https://mastodon.social/@ieeespectrum/116059551433682789

                                      > The volunteer community that built this encyclopedia has lately rejected a key innovation designed to serve readers.

                                      this specifically means: they rejected covering WIkipedia in AI slop. This means a generational gap apparently. ok mate

                                      Jeroen BosmanJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Jeroen BosmanJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Jeroen Bosman
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                                      @davidgerard although I agree on keeping AI out, I do think the article is a bit more nuanced.

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                                      • generic holiday season bribS generic holiday season brib

                                        @zzt @davidgerard

                                        Gen Z and Gen Alpha readers are accustomed to TikTok, YouTube, and mobile-first visual media.

                                        Ah, I love sweeping generalisations over how (il)literate young people are.

                                        Tell me you don't know the youth of today without telling me you don't know the youth of today

                                        [object Object]Z This user is from outside of this forum
                                        [object Object]Z This user is from outside of this forum
                                        [object Object]
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                                        #21

                                        @sitcom_nemesis @davidgerard I’m imagining the hell wikipedia they’re proposing, where the dreadful generative voice used for TikTok conspiracy videos narrates a slop video extruded from a prompt like “make a 2 minute video from this text” followed by the now-inaccessible last human-written version of the Wikipedia article for the topic at hand

                                        this is hurting my head

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                                        • IEEE SpectrumI IEEE Spectrum

                                          Wikipedia’s editors and readers have a dangerous generational gap. Can it become something that serves younger audiences, or will it remain stuck in the past? https://spectrum.ieee.org/wikipedia-at-25?utm_source=mastodon&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fedica-Mastodon-Daily-Pipeline

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                                          #22

                                          @ieeespectrum have you ever considered that the current generation did not ask for AI and according to any anecdotal and scientific evidence I have seen, is not benefiting from it?

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