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Maybe you don't care about the EU's digital sovereignty.

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  • Robert Kist 🇦🇹🇸🇬K Robert Kist 🇦🇹🇸🇬

    Maybe you don't care about the EU's digital sovereignty. But let's be serious for a moment - the chance of getting rid of MS Teams does sound exciting, right?

    aralyA This user is from outside of this forum
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    @kwramm yes please, kill that demon. why do we use the worst app of each thing ? the worst chat with teams, the worst email with outlook, the worst git website with GitHub. at least we're not forced to use vscode.

    it's not like these are any good either. they're slow and heavy, and break constantly, even on a recent laptop. and they all have AI of course.

    all these have alternatives that are more reliable, lighter, and either foss or European

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    • Robert Kist 🇦🇹🇸🇬K Robert Kist 🇦🇹🇸🇬

      Maybe you don't care about the EU's digital sovereignty. But let's be serious for a moment - the chance of getting rid of MS Teams does sound exciting, right?

      Karl Heinz HäsliprinzK This user is from outside of this forum
      Karl Heinz HäsliprinzK This user is from outside of this forum
      Karl Heinz Häsliprinz
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      @kwramm I'm incredibly excited. Cooking a combo of workadventu.re for chat and talk, discourse for long term memory and nextcloud for collab on files.

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      • ✧✦Catherine✦✧W ✧✦Catherine✦✧

        @oblomov @kwramm impossible

        SheogorathS This user is from outside of this forum
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        @whitequark @oblomov @kwramm Impossible is humanity's second name.

        How do you think they came up with Teams in the first place?

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        • Robert Kist 🇦🇹🇸🇬K Robert Kist 🇦🇹🇸🇬

          Maybe you don't care about the EU's digital sovereignty. But let's be serious for a moment - the chance of getting rid of MS Teams does sound exciting, right?

          StoneBear :potion_genderqueer:S This user is from outside of this forum
          StoneBear :potion_genderqueer:S This user is from outside of this forum
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          #20

          @kwramm Teams, Slack, the entire Atlassian stack, Office, Gmail, frankly the whole AzurWSoogle stack from soup to nuts, back up the skip and haul it ALL out of here...

          For my next trick, I'mma de-Google a phone....

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          • Robert Kist 🇦🇹🇸🇬K Robert Kist 🇦🇹🇸🇬

            Maybe you don't care about the EU's digital sovereignty. But let's be serious for a moment - the chance of getting rid of MS Teams does sound exciting, right?

            CiferT This user is from outside of this forum
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            @kwramm Yesterday, that abomination showed me a phantom new message notification. Turns out it claimed there was a new message in... a chat from 2019. No, there wasn't.

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            • Robert Kist 🇦🇹🇸🇬K Robert Kist 🇦🇹🇸🇬

              Maybe you don't care about the EU's digital sovereignty. But let's be serious for a moment - the chance of getting rid of MS Teams does sound exciting, right?

              💀L This user is from outside of this forum
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              @kwramm omg and salesforce being gone? sign me up!

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              • OblomovO Oblomov

                @kwramm only until it gets replaced with something even worse.

                Dio9sysD This user is from outside of this forum
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                #23

                @oblomov

                @kwramm

                Microsoft Teams will be replaced with Acorn Councils

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                • John RockefellerR John Rockefeller

                  @kwramm Have you tried https://meet.jit.si/ ? @Tijn mentioned it was great a few weeks ago. The last time I tried it was back in 2013 or so. It is American, unfortunately, but fully open source and libre (apache license).

                  Robert Kist 🇦🇹🇸🇬K This user is from outside of this forum
                  Robert Kist 🇦🇹🇸🇬K This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @rocky1138 @Tijn cool! i just wish I weren't bound to the decisions made by my employer's purchasing dept, which probably got a really good deal from MS for buying their entire range of products

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                  • Robert Kist 🇦🇹🇸🇬K Robert Kist 🇦🇹🇸🇬

                    Maybe you don't care about the EU's digital sovereignty. But let's be serious for a moment - the chance of getting rid of MS Teams does sound exciting, right?

                    AthelstanA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Athelstan
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                    #25

                    @kwramm
                    At the expense of encryption getting technically banned, eh?

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                    • Robert Kist 🇦🇹🇸🇬K Robert Kist 🇦🇹🇸🇬

                      Maybe you don't care about the EU's digital sovereignty. But let's be serious for a moment - the chance of getting rid of MS Teams does sound exciting, right?

                      Morten Juhl-JohansenM This user is from outside of this forum
                      Morten Juhl-JohansenM This user is from outside of this forum
                      Morten Juhl-Johansen
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                      #26

                      @kwramm True. We have had discussions about Teams replacements in case of leaving MS Office, and there will always be people calling it the perfect time for an exorcism...
                      I do like screen sharing when I help people sort things out.

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                      • Morten Juhl-JohansenM Morten Juhl-Johansen

                        @kwramm True. We have had discussions about Teams replacements in case of leaving MS Office, and there will always be people calling it the perfect time for an exorcism...
                        I do like screen sharing when I help people sort things out.

                        Robert Kist 🇦🇹🇸🇬K This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @mjj screen sharing is nice, but I miss a whiteboard. Firing up MS Paint for that is such a hack

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                        • Robert Kist 🇦🇹🇸🇬K Robert Kist 🇦🇹🇸🇬

                          Maybe you don't care about the EU's digital sovereignty. But let's be serious for a moment - the chance of getting rid of MS Teams does sound exciting, right?

                          Ashwin DixitP This user is from outside of this forum
                          Ashwin DixitP This user is from outside of this forum
                          Ashwin Dixit
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                          @kwramm

                          Not to sound too smug, I wrote about the threat posed by giving too much control to Silicon Valley tech bros, 13 years ago.

                          https://web.archive.org/web/20160304055208/http://ownlifeful.blogspot.com/2013/04/open-source-for-security.html

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