Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?

@davepolaschek @gumnos thanks, i've bookmarked that

@jvschrag @afewbugs And to add insult to injury, those same cleaning staff get paid less than anyone else on site and routinely demeaned.

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Ah, replied to a post which was removed before I could press reply. Anyway, here's the comment:

I think, to some degree and in a work environment, it's also because maintenance tasks and day to day operations stuff is not typically valued in an organization. Some people - and they're often men - don't do work which won't get them recognition from higher-ups.

I say this as someone who prefers to do maintenance work and operations stuff, and who likes to clean up and make sure my area of responsibility is in tip top shape even where people don't typically look.

But most people don't think about the cleanup and maintenance phase of an IT project, so they leave their mess everywhere. Which is frankly somewhere between annoying and infuriating.

@afewbugs I struggled with this too. For stuff that is literally every week at set times I now have a chores calendar group with reminders.

For other stuff I have tasks, and when 'completing' I essentially snooze a custom time. You never get the satisfaction of closing it, unless you want to copy it again and again all manually

@afewbugs i think to a certain extent it's just *easier* to make a task manager that only handles one-off tasks. a lot easier.

which is to say, there may (only may) be no misogeny here, just a complete lack of ability to actually *define* the problem before they try to solve it…

@afewbugs@social.coop The frontend doesn't support it (yet, but there is a fresh PR adding it), but if you use an external app to edit them, syncing repeating tasks works. (I use Tasks.org and DAVx⁵ on Android)

@afewbugs Yes, but not directly.

Nextcloud itself doesn't support recurring tasks (or didn't when I last used, a couple of years ago, but it seems the issue still remains), and this issue is something that has surfaced a few times over the years.

There is, however, a workaround, which I've used since I encountered this particular issue.

You'll need to use your phone to set up recurring tasks and mark them complete.

And you'll need to use DavX5 and Tasks to do it (not sure that there's an equivalent for Apple devices, those are the two programs I use on Android).

When you use those two combined, Tasks will correctly recreate the recurring task on Nextcloud.

Hope this helps!

@gumnos Yeah, part of this is getting away from the phone, as well as just getting away from Apple in general.

@afewbugs would love to see more support for recurring tasks! Blaming men for the lacking feature seems kinda weird though. I see a lot of seemingly male users willing to pay for this feature: https://help.nextcloud.com/t/repeating-tasks/225106/21. Have you tried implementing that yourself instead of demanding it from men? I guess many people also just have other ways to keep track of these things, such as recurring calendar events with notifications, alarms, reminder apps, or they're good at remembering them.

@afewbugs I had looked into this a while ago and from a technical perspective the WebCAL and iCalendar standards which are used by Nextcloud and many others support recurring tasks. However, support for it seems to depend on both the server and the client and many lack support for it. I'm not really sure why; I assume it's just difficult to implement and/or not enough people asked about it. But if you use the right client it should work with Nextcloud.

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For chores, I quite like "x days after completed." I used to use a great app called "our home" for this, but it just stopped working one day. It seemed to have no business model.

@afewbugs Literal expert on multitasking here. Women aren't better at multitasking.

@afewbugs the web interface doesn't have the ability, but some clients do. i use @jtx, but due to the lack of support in the web interface i don't use recurring tasks at all (and i would really love to). while for some it might be ok to just use a compatible client, for me it's not enough if it doesn't work in the web interface

@afewbugs im so sorry for your replies, but also thanks for beating the bushes for the blockables. some real bad takes in here hah

See also: "But women naturally notice mess and dirt in a way men don't." No, women learn to notice because we're shamed for not noticing and keeping on top of things in a way men aren't. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0049124119852395

@afewbugs @jtx tbh i've been able to keep track of my recurring tasks in my mind, but it really sucks. also for things like taking medicine on a regular schedule it would be so great to have recurring tasks

@afewbugs I can set recurring tasks on my Nextcloud calendar task list via 3rd party apps like Reminders on iOS or Evolution via CalDAV

I'm not sure if there's a way to do it through the web interface, if that's what you're asking though!

Gawd, the shit I got when I waded into a "discussion" on Instagram about how "men are so helpless and useless and they need to be given a LIST of chores before they will help" and I chimed in: "Actually I have ADHD and if my ex had given me a specific, detailed list instead of just telling me to 'look around and see what needs done' and then getting MAD that I didn't do what HE WANTED DONE maybe I wouldn't have this huge emotional trauma" and it turned into: "YOU'RE JUST ENABLING LAZY MEN AND GIVING THEM EXCUSES, ADHD ISN'T A GOOD EXCUSE, EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW TO CLEAN"… …um, no, not everyone does. And it's really fucking sexist to assume that WOMEN ESPECIALLY are "born with" this knowledge and skill set and little "habit tracker" already programmed in.

So we've strayed a very long way from Nextcloud's task manager, but the older I get the more I see "Who does the dishes after the revolution?" as one of the first questions that should be asked in any progressive space. I've seen at permaculture camps where the men wander off to form a drumming circle while the women set up the cooking rotas and compost station. I've seen it at the meetings where the men stand up and give inspiring speeches while the women organise drinks and take the minutes

@afewbugs This is the #1 most requested (liked) feature in all of Nextcloud: https://github.com/nextcloud/tasks/issues/34
And there's even a monetary bounty, let's hope it's coming up soon!