Should citizens of your country that live elsewhere have the right to vote?

@EdwinG
I do understand the question, it's your example with A and B that didn't make much sense (The situation in country B is irrelevant to the question).

You do understand that people with multiple nationalities are a special case, right?

The question is about emigrants. If you have dual citizenship you're not an emigrant or an immigrant.

@evan

@DavidBHimself The situation in country B is indeed not relevant (resident, citizen), but it is relevant that they are not living in country A because they live in B.

In other words, should A’s not residing citizens be allowed to vote in A? And I’m saying, no.

@evan

@EdwinG So, you're basically saying that I and many other people should lose their rights to vote?
To lose my most basic right as a citizen because I happen to not live on a piece of soil, but on another one?

Quite a strange way to see democracy, indeed. (see where my "landowner" reference is coming from)

@evan

@EricLawton I think when you are talking from the perspective of the country they left, "immigrant" (in + migrant) is inaccurate.

Other terms we use: overseas citizens, citizens abroad.

I'm not actually across a sea from my birth country, unless you count the St. Lawrence Seaway, so I don't use that term often.

Abroad sounds like it could mean temporarily away, like on a long vacation .

@DavidBHimself I’m suggesting that you should be able to vote where you live.

@evan

@EdwinG Well, you're not in most cases.

@evan

@evan I agree with @EricLawton -- "expatriate" is an imperial term. I see no confusion of terminology in his comment, quite the opposite.

In the context of the poll, "expatriate" was used about emigrants, not immigrants, but the point stands. The clearest term, if a bit long and pedantic, might have been "citizens who are not residents".

@DavidBHimself I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

And yes, I did lose my right to vote when I moved a couple of times, even as a resident+citizen of said location. That’s how our imperfect electoral system works.

@evan

@DavidBHimself I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

And yes, I did lose my right to vote when I moved a couple of times, even as a resident+citizen of said location. That’s how our imperfect electoral system works.

@evan

@EdwinG Still, I'm curious about what country made you lose your voting rights without stripping you of your citizenship.

@EdwinG "our" You're doing some defaultism from wherever you are now?

@evan

@DavidBHimself It's at the subnational level in Québec, Canada.

At the municipal level, there's a deadline to register on the list of electors - most on it. I moved between that deadline and election day. You cannot register on election day.

Knowing what I know today, I insist that people check that they're registered by the deadline
There's space for improvement.

https://www.electionsquebec.qc.ca/en/vote/can-you-vote/#municipal

@DavidBHimself What determiner should I have used instead?

The first person singular (my) didn't seem appropriate either

@EdwinG So, this has nothing to do with changing countries.

@gabriele Wow, that's quite a gross generalization. So all emigrants ("expat" is also quite a gross term) are the same? What's next? All women are the same? All black people are the same?

@evan

@evan I would say no.

My rationale: Who am I as a resident and citizen of another country to decide what the residents of my other citizenship country wish/want. I don’t pay taxes there, I don’t participate in their active life, etc. For all intents and purposes, they are foreigners

Should citizens of your country that live elsewhere have the right to vote?

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@evan given it's nigh on impossible to renounce US citizenship and stop paying taxes.

The argument is that the rich would flee the country.

To which I ask, for where?

The Emirates? Where citizenship is bought and can be removed at the whim of a royal? To China, where the Politburo understands you keep the rich on the shortest of leashes? To the UK, who opened their doors to Russian gangsters who shiv, poison, and defenestrate?

Should citizens of your country that live elsewhere have the right to vote?

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@emma @evan I found a loophole. If you get a civil service job in your new country, even for a month you can renounce by means of a simple letter to Rubio.