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BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety.

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  • iFixitI iFixit

    BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

    http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
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    #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

    nicolaottomanoN This user is from outside of this forum
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    nicolaottomano
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    #35

    @iFixit BMW is basically dying. I don't see new BMWs on my way to work. They started with a subscription-based seat heather, yet developing ad idiotic patented screw.
    Compared to more innovative car makers (chinese ones on top of all), they look like Blackberry or Nokia when the first iPhone was unveiled.

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    • iFixitI iFixit

      BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

      http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
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      #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

      Jaime RobertsonJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      Jaime Robertson
      wrote last edited by
      #36

      @iFixit
      When faced with something like this I get the dremel out and cut a notch in it, then get it out with a flat screwdriver.
      Worked on my former MINI (a BMW), with torx screws on the tail light cover, didn't have bit for them at the time.

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      • iFixitI iFixit

        BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

        http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
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        #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

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        gwentlarry
        wrote last edited by
        #37

        @iFixit

        Car manufacturers keep trying this sort of thing. The 6-point Torx srew/bolt head of the 1960s was such an attempt. That didn't last long as something only "approved" car repair technicians could access.

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        • iFixitI iFixit

          BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

          http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
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          #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

          TrimTab 🇺🇦T This user is from outside of this forum
          TrimTab 🇺🇦T This user is from outside of this forum
          TrimTab 🇺🇦
          wrote last edited by
          #38

          @iFixit Capitalist free markets need wise regulation. It shouldn't be legal to innovate for the purpose of blocking interoperability or entrapping customers. Corporations HATE free markets because true competition is hard and profits are slimmer. External force is required.

          Absent regulation to establish rules to protect society, free markets must race towards monopoly, corruption, and enshitification. Regulated markets can work - uncontrolled markets foaters Lord of the Flies conditions.

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          • iFixitI iFixit

            BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

            http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
            —
            #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

            EndicottRoad59E This user is from outside of this forum
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            EndicottRoad59
            wrote last edited by
            #39

            @iFixit Not surprised. There's money to be made in repairs. BIG money.

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            • iFixitI iFixit

              BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

              http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
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              #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

              Peter H. FröhlichP This user is from outside of this forum
              Peter H. FröhlichP This user is from outside of this forum
              Peter H. Fröhlich
              wrote last edited by
              #40

              @iFixit They took out a PATENT to protect the shape of their NUTS? These people are so amazingly insecure, it boggles the mind not only of psychiatrists but also of just regular old engineers. 🤷

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              • iFixitI iFixit

                BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

                http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
                —
                #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

                Y⃒̸̷̝̜̙ͥͥͥngmarY This user is from outside of this forum
                Y⃒̸̷̝̜̙ͥͥͥngmarY This user is from outside of this forum
                Y⃒̸̷̝̜̙ͥͥͥngmar
                wrote last edited by
                #41

                @iFixit Perhaps the German car industry isn't as worthy of saving as Ursula vdL thinks.

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                • Loki ​​L Loki ​​

                  @iFixit 10 weeks and you can buy this bit at Ali Express and temu…

                  Sorry, but times are different today, you can’t f… around like this anymore

                  UkeleleEricU This user is from outside of this forum
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                  UkeleleEric
                  wrote last edited by
                  #42

                  @Loki @iFixit yes, but how good will those bits be, and how likely to cause a stripped screw, which will then prove warranty denied...

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                  • Mr. Lance E Sloan (IRL) 👤S Mr. Lance E Sloan (IRL) 👤

                    @iFixit
                    How effective are screw extraction bits on the BMW screw? Once the screw is out, replace it with an ordinary one with the same threads and length.

                    UkeleleEricU This user is from outside of this forum
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                    UkeleleEric
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                    #43

                    @sloanlance @iFixit wouldn't be surprised if there was something nonstandard about the thread direction, pitch or depth.

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                    • Peter H. FröhlichP Peter H. Fröhlich

                      @iFixit They took out a PATENT to protect the shape of their NUTS? These people are so amazingly insecure, it boggles the mind not only of psychiatrists but also of just regular old engineers. 🤷

                      UkeleleEricU This user is from outside of this forum
                      UkeleleEricU This user is from outside of this forum
                      UkeleleEric
                      wrote last edited by
                      #44

                      @phf @iFixit actually, considering the other slang use of the term 'nuts', this is exactly what they are doing - it's a load of b... Nuts.

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                      • Y⃒̸̷̝̜̙ͥͥͥngmarY Y⃒̸̷̝̜̙ͥͥͥngmar

                        @iFixit Perhaps the German car industry isn't as worthy of saving as Ursula vdL thinks.

                        Piggo :verified_horse:P This user is from outside of this forum
                        Piggo :verified_horse:P This user is from outside of this forum
                        Piggo :verified_horse:
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                        #45
                        @yngmar @iFixit I think this stupid screw can be trivially defeated worth pointy pliers
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                        • Piggo :verified_horse:P Piggo :verified_horse:
                          @yngmar @iFixit I think this stupid screw can be trivially defeated worth pointy pliers
                          Y⃒̸̷̝̜̙ͥͥͥngmarY This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Y⃒̸̷̝̜̙ͥͥͥngmar
                          wrote last edited by
                          #46

                          @piggo @iFixit I'm not sure what's more offending, the stupid anti-repair design or the horrendous quality of the depicted threads.

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                          • Y⃒̸̷̝̜̙ͥͥͥngmarY Y⃒̸̷̝̜̙ͥͥͥngmar

                            @piggo @iFixit I'm not sure what's more offending, the stupid anti-repair design or the horrendous quality of the depicted threads.

                            mcSlibinasM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            mcSlibinas
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                            #47

                            @yngmar @piggo @iFixit bit not looking good too 🤔

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                            • mcSlibinasM mcSlibinas

                              @yngmar @piggo @iFixit bit not looking good too 🤔

                              Y⃒̸̷̝̜̙ͥͥͥngmarY This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Y⃒̸̷̝̜̙ͥͥͥngmar
                              wrote last edited by
                              #48

                              @mcSlibinas @piggo @iFixit Oh, nevermind, the article says its "A 3D printed screw and matching bit derived from the patent filing (Source: Adafruit)"

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                              • Sire of Swamp Dragons 🔻Q Sire of Swamp Dragons 🔻

                                @iFixit I have ridden a BMW motorcycle for years, with the idea that I could do minor maintenance tasks myself (which I did, even with my modest skills). With this kind of corporate bullshit, I will not be buying a BMW anymore.

                                #righttorepair

                                E. C. BigribsE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                E. C. Bigribs
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                                #49

                                @qboq I've had four BMW motorcycles, three from the 20th century and one from 2007 (still have that one; owned basically since new). Buying expensive parts and the occasional proprietary tool was always frustrating, but with the 2007 they were definitely trending in the "we don't want you working on it" direction. I do my own maintenance, but it elevates my blood pressure every time.

                                For my own sanity, I also have a Moto Guzzi, on which I can adjust the valves in my sleep, with my eyes closed, one hand tied behind my back, etc.

                                @iFixit

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