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Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

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  • Awk & shaM Awk & sha

    @kiri @sundogplanets you’re not missing anything; this is absolutely the problem with data centers, structures famously constrained by their ability to reject heat, in space, a place famous for its insulative properties. It’s stupid.

    Not to mention that data centers require maintenance and equipment replacement. This aspect of data centers is why companies decided not to put them in the ocean (where heat would be easier to reject). How do they think they’ll do maintenance? Or do the satellites just become trash after a few years?

    six_grandfathers_mountainS This user is from outside of this forum
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    @mmcknett @kiri
    RE
    constrained..reject heat, in space.. It’s stupid...
    data centers require maintenance and equipment replacement

    @sundogplanets
    RE
    fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use #satellites for centuries

    Anything #SpaceX wants is probably crap bc #ElonMusk is the guy driving the bus

    And another way to destroy the use of space satellite tech is to have #WW3 which is what will only make big tech richer, 🥵

    @nomdeb
    Thx 4 orig Prof. Sam boost

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    • James 🌈💜S This user is from outside of this forum
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      @lexinova @sundogplanets

      You are way more optimistic than I.
      They'd just argue over who is responsible and do nothing until we're Kessler'd.

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      • James 🌈💜S This user is from outside of this forum
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        @lexinova

        Most of the internet is underground, not over your head. There would be little impact on that front.

        And what sattelites there are, are at different orbit heights than the proposal, limiting the impact further.

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        • Awk & shaM This user is from outside of this forum
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          @Doomed_Daniel oh yeah, I can’t believe I forgot they have to be radiation-hardened, too!

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            @acm_redfox @kiri @sundogplanets Ice Particle Shotgun Missiles; the ice would hopefully melt under solar radiation and/or enter atmosphere after dislodging/shredding tf out of objects in orbit, maybe? First strike failed? More melting blammo ice cloud blasts. No lazers, grappling hooks, precise kenetic munitions, nukes, etc. Just a cloud of ice belched from high atmo from a dumb metal casing and a falling trajectory.

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            • iamsI iams

              @acm_redfox @kiri @sundogplanets Ice Particle Shotgun Missiles; the ice would hopefully melt under solar radiation and/or enter atmosphere after dislodging/shredding tf out of objects in orbit, maybe? First strike failed? More melting blammo ice cloud blasts. No lazers, grappling hooks, precise kenetic munitions, nukes, etc. Just a cloud of ice belched from high atmo from a dumb metal casing and a falling trajectory.

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              @iams
              Lmao
              @acm_redfox @sundogplanets

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              • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                If anyone has time and energy to set up instructions for how to submit a comment to the FCC (it's really fucking complicated, on purpose, I'm sure), I would very much appreciate it! Otherwise I'll do it in the coming days.

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                @sundogplanets@mastodon.social A milliuon satellites is utterly barking insane. Based on the rate they're burning out GPU/VPUs in AI datacenters, my rough estimate is they're going to need 140 Falcon 9 launches PER DAY just to sustain the constellation. A million satellites that need replacement every 18 months on average?

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                • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                  Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

                  https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                  Comments due March 6.

                  I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

                  Strider Uwe 🇺🇦🇨🇦🇲🇽U This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #30

                  @sundogplanets But SpaceX will “scal[e] to make a sentient sun to understand the Universe and extend the light of consciousness to the stars!” How could you possibly be against that?!?

                  Yeah, it’s batshit crazy, Musk is hyping for IPO (although I don’t know if he believes it himself… he’s huffed his own farts a few times too many). I’ll be astonished if more than, I dunno, a few dozen ever get launched. By that point, it should be clear what a stupid idea it is.

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                  • Strider Uwe 🇺🇦🇨🇦🇲🇽U Strider Uwe 🇺🇦🇨🇦🇲🇽

                    @sundogplanets But SpaceX will “scal[e] to make a sentient sun to understand the Universe and extend the light of consciousness to the stars!” How could you possibly be against that?!?

                    Yeah, it’s batshit crazy, Musk is hyping for IPO (although I don’t know if he believes it himself… he’s huffed his own farts a few times too many). I’ll be astonished if more than, I dunno, a few dozen ever get launched. By that point, it should be clear what a stupid idea it is.

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                    @UweHalfHand @sundogplanets
                    I think it's more about justifying the purchase of xAI, which otherwise makes no sense, not that orbital data centers make the tiniest bit of sense. It's part of a pattern of Musk using one of his companies to buy another to protect him from the shame of the purchased company going belly up. See Tesla/Solar City and xAI/X for previous examples. Don't be surprised if Neuralink is next.

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                    • Roger MooreV Roger Moore

                      @UweHalfHand @sundogplanets
                      I think it's more about justifying the purchase of xAI, which otherwise makes no sense, not that orbital data centers make the tiniest bit of sense. It's part of a pattern of Musk using one of his companies to buy another to protect him from the shame of the purchased company going belly up. See Tesla/Solar City and xAI/X for previous examples. Don't be surprised if Neuralink is next.

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                      @VATVSLPR @sundogplanets Yeah, I think you’re right. It’s some crazy tapdancing, I’m just not sure how much of it Musk believes himself… I’d be prepared to believe any number between 0 and 100%

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                      • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                        Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

                        https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                        Comments due March 6.

                        I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

                        Cedar Fen Farm
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                        @sundogplanets

                        If other countries have any sense, they'll shoot them down after notifying the UN whatever pertinent commitee.

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                        • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                          Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

                          https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                          Comments due March 6.

                          I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

                          Toni AittoniemiG This user is from outside of this forum
                          Toni AittoniemiG This user is from outside of this forum
                          Toni Aittoniemi
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                          #34

                          @sundogplanets Our economy is no longer serving the public, but the financial system.

                          Data centers in space won’t work, but the investment bankers don’t know that, so bullshit that make number go up rules.

                          Data centers in space are the tulip craze of our age!

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                          • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                            Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

                            https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                            Comments due March 6.

                            I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

                            naught101N This user is from outside of this forum
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                            naught101
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                            @sundogplanets

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                            • Roger MooreV Roger Moore

                              @UweHalfHand @sundogplanets
                              I think it's more about justifying the purchase of xAI, which otherwise makes no sense, not that orbital data centers make the tiniest bit of sense. It's part of a pattern of Musk using one of his companies to buy another to protect him from the shame of the purchased company going belly up. See Tesla/Solar City and xAI/X for previous examples. Don't be surprised if Neuralink is next.

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                              @VATVSLPR @UweHalfHand @sundogplanets like a stupidity ponzi scheme. Using the first stupid as a down-payment on future stupid.

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                              • :copyleft: Kiri :tux:K This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #37

                                @lauerhahn Fair point!

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                                • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                                  Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

                                  https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                                  Comments due March 6.

                                  I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

                                  anjaA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #38

                                  @sundogplanets Another huge distraction from the real challenges we face as a humanity?

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                                  • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                                    Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

                                    https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                                    Comments due March 6.

                                    I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

                                    bitB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @sundogplanets

                                    Why would they even want AI datacenters in space? We haven't solved how to cool them without massive amounts of water down here on earth, how are they going to cool them up there? Some months back I read of someone else wanting to create the same datacenters in international waters. Is this just a new way for them to try to avoid legal liability? If that's the case, I wonder what kind of content they will generate up there.

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                                    • Toni AittoniemiG Toni Aittoniemi

                                      @sundogplanets Our economy is no longer serving the public, but the financial system.

                                      Data centers in space won’t work, but the investment bankers don’t know that, so bullshit that make number go up rules.

                                      Data centers in space are the tulip craze of our age!

                                      CyC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Cy
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                                      #40
                                      Our economy never served the public. It is by definition in service to the financial system. Our society on the other hand has at times served the public. Forget the economy, embrace society, and the people with a million spacebux will lose all their power over you.

                                      If only I could convince everyone else to do that too...

                                      CC: @sundogplanets@mastodon.social
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                                      • Awk & shaM Awk & sha

                                        @kiri @sundogplanets you’re not missing anything; this is absolutely the problem with data centers, structures famously constrained by their ability to reject heat, in space, a place famous for its insulative properties. It’s stupid.

                                        Not to mention that data centers require maintenance and equipment replacement. This aspect of data centers is why companies decided not to put them in the ocean (where heat would be easier to reject). How do they think they’ll do maintenance? Or do the satellites just become trash after a few years?

                                        SammiS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @kiri @sundogplanets @mmcknett Surely that is the point of doing it, they will break and he has to launch more to fill that gap. It ensures continual launches and hence profits

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                                        • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                                          Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

                                          https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                                          Comments due March 6.

                                          I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

                                          Humble Fan of Atty. WooB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @sundogplanets

                                          what I personally want for my birthday on the 13th is for SpaceX or any large building to fall on Musk and end him.....I won't even ask for a Nobel Peace Prize if that were to happen. I will issue a small smile or two.....I yield back my time.

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