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Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

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  • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

    Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

    https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

    Comments due March 6.

    I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

    RowinSpeezR This user is from outside of this forum
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    @sundogplanets the good thing is that Elon Musk has never delivered on anything he's ever promised, and this would require rocket launches at such an wildly high pace that I don't think they could come close to pulling this off.

    It's just to juice SpaceX IPO and then musk can be a trillionaire. If the next US administration comes to be, this plan is dumpstered for sure.

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    • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

      If anyone has time and energy to set up instructions for how to submit a comment to the FCC (it's really fucking complicated, on purpose, I'm sure), I would very much appreciate it! Otherwise I'll do it in the coming days.

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      #17

      @sundogplanets Yikes. Is DA 26-113 the “docket number or rulemaking number of the proceeding”?

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      • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

        Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

        https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

        Comments due March 6.

        I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

        :copyleft: Kiri :tux:K This user is from outside of this forum
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        :copyleft: Kiri :tux:
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        @sundogplanets How would a data center event work in outer space? Heat would build up. Unless I'm missing something and the idea is to have something super worse than regular DCs down here?

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        • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

          Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

          https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

          Comments due March 6.

          I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

          Steve LevittJ This user is from outside of this forum
          Steve LevittJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          @sundogplanets

          Remember the hole in ozone days ?
          Sheesh .
          Think it was after “ give hoot don’t pollute “ and just before acids rain.

          Anyway ,, Now we blast rocket fuel through it for the new computer science data barns.
          🤔. Interesting swings in folk ideology.

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          • Lauren WeinsteinL Lauren Weinstein

            @sundogplanets It's not going to work. That will be obvious long before he has all that many satellites up, and he'll move on to his next sick joke.

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            @lauren @sundogplanets I think this one is about the IPO - he wants to pawn off SpaceX on the open market (especially now that he's rolled the other loser companies into it), and this is about hyping SpaceX. If the commentary were to kill the idea ASAP, it might help fubar the IPO, which would be good for all the rest of us.

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            • :copyleft: Kiri :tux:K :copyleft: Kiri :tux:

              @sundogplanets How would a data center event work in outer space? Heat would build up. Unless I'm missing something and the idea is to have something super worse than regular DCs down here?

              Awk & shaM This user is from outside of this forum
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              @kiri @sundogplanets you’re not missing anything; this is absolutely the problem with data centers, structures famously constrained by their ability to reject heat, in space, a place famous for its insulative properties. It’s stupid.

              Not to mention that data centers require maintenance and equipment replacement. This aspect of data centers is why companies decided not to put them in the ocean (where heat would be easier to reject). How do they think they’ll do maintenance? Or do the satellites just become trash after a few years?

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              • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                If anyone has time and energy to set up instructions for how to submit a comment to the FCC (it's really fucking complicated, on purpose, I'm sure), I would very much appreciate it! Otherwise I'll do it in the coming days.

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                @sundogplanets https://bsky.brid.gy/r/https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:vcjhk6pveljuwujipu56ggau/post/3me37lcvh6s22

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                • Awk & shaM Awk & sha

                  @kiri @sundogplanets you’re not missing anything; this is absolutely the problem with data centers, structures famously constrained by their ability to reject heat, in space, a place famous for its insulative properties. It’s stupid.

                  Not to mention that data centers require maintenance and equipment replacement. This aspect of data centers is why companies decided not to put them in the ocean (where heat would be easier to reject). How do they think they’ll do maintenance? Or do the satellites just become trash after a few years?

                  six_grandfathers_mountainS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @mmcknett @kiri
                  RE
                  constrained..reject heat, in space.. It’s stupid...
                  data centers require maintenance and equipment replacement

                  @sundogplanets
                  RE
                  fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use #satellites for centuries

                  Anything #SpaceX wants is probably crap bc #ElonMusk is the guy driving the bus

                  And another way to destroy the use of space satellite tech is to have #WW3 which is what will only make big tech richer, 🥵

                  @nomdeb
                  Thx 4 orig Prof. Sam boost

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                  • James 🌈💜S This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @lexinova @sundogplanets

                    You are way more optimistic than I.
                    They'd just argue over who is responsible and do nothing until we're Kessler'd.

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                    • James 🌈💜S This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @lexinova

                      Most of the internet is underground, not over your head. There would be little impact on that front.

                      And what sattelites there are, are at different orbit heights than the proposal, limiting the impact further.

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                      • Awk & shaM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @Doomed_Daniel oh yeah, I can’t believe I forgot they have to be radiation-hardened, too!

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                          @acm_redfox @kiri @sundogplanets Ice Particle Shotgun Missiles; the ice would hopefully melt under solar radiation and/or enter atmosphere after dislodging/shredding tf out of objects in orbit, maybe? First strike failed? More melting blammo ice cloud blasts. No lazers, grappling hooks, precise kenetic munitions, nukes, etc. Just a cloud of ice belched from high atmo from a dumb metal casing and a falling trajectory.

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                            @acm_redfox @kiri @sundogplanets Ice Particle Shotgun Missiles; the ice would hopefully melt under solar radiation and/or enter atmosphere after dislodging/shredding tf out of objects in orbit, maybe? First strike failed? More melting blammo ice cloud blasts. No lazers, grappling hooks, precise kenetic munitions, nukes, etc. Just a cloud of ice belched from high atmo from a dumb metal casing and a falling trajectory.

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                            @iams
                            Lmao
                            @acm_redfox @sundogplanets

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                            • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                              If anyone has time and energy to set up instructions for how to submit a comment to the FCC (it's really fucking complicated, on purpose, I'm sure), I would very much appreciate it! Otherwise I'll do it in the coming days.

                              Seán FenianZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @sundogplanets@mastodon.social A milliuon satellites is utterly barking insane. Based on the rate they're burning out GPU/VPUs in AI datacenters, my rough estimate is they're going to need 140 Falcon 9 launches PER DAY just to sustain the constellation. A million satellites that need replacement every 18 months on average?

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                              • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                                Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

                                https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                                Comments due March 6.

                                I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

                                Strider Uwe 🇺🇦🇨🇦🇲🇽U This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @sundogplanets But SpaceX will “scal[e] to make a sentient sun to understand the Universe and extend the light of consciousness to the stars!” How could you possibly be against that?!?

                                Yeah, it’s batshit crazy, Musk is hyping for IPO (although I don’t know if he believes it himself… he’s huffed his own farts a few times too many). I’ll be astonished if more than, I dunno, a few dozen ever get launched. By that point, it should be clear what a stupid idea it is.

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                                • Strider Uwe 🇺🇦🇨🇦🇲🇽U Strider Uwe 🇺🇦🇨🇦🇲🇽

                                  @sundogplanets But SpaceX will “scal[e] to make a sentient sun to understand the Universe and extend the light of consciousness to the stars!” How could you possibly be against that?!?

                                  Yeah, it’s batshit crazy, Musk is hyping for IPO (although I don’t know if he believes it himself… he’s huffed his own farts a few times too many). I’ll be astonished if more than, I dunno, a few dozen ever get launched. By that point, it should be clear what a stupid idea it is.

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                                  @UweHalfHand @sundogplanets
                                  I think it's more about justifying the purchase of xAI, which otherwise makes no sense, not that orbital data centers make the tiniest bit of sense. It's part of a pattern of Musk using one of his companies to buy another to protect him from the shame of the purchased company going belly up. See Tesla/Solar City and xAI/X for previous examples. Don't be surprised if Neuralink is next.

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                                  • Roger MooreV Roger Moore

                                    @UweHalfHand @sundogplanets
                                    I think it's more about justifying the purchase of xAI, which otherwise makes no sense, not that orbital data centers make the tiniest bit of sense. It's part of a pattern of Musk using one of his companies to buy another to protect him from the shame of the purchased company going belly up. See Tesla/Solar City and xAI/X for previous examples. Don't be surprised if Neuralink is next.

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                                    @VATVSLPR @sundogplanets Yeah, I think you’re right. It’s some crazy tapdancing, I’m just not sure how much of it Musk believes himself… I’d be prepared to believe any number between 0 and 100%

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                                    • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                                      Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

                                      https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                                      Comments due March 6.

                                      I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

                                      Cedar Fen Farm
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                                      @sundogplanets

                                      If other countries have any sense, they'll shoot them down after notifying the UN whatever pertinent commitee.

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                                      • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                                        Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

                                        https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                                        Comments due March 6.

                                        I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

                                        Toni AittoniemiG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @sundogplanets Our economy is no longer serving the public, but the financial system.

                                        Data centers in space won’t work, but the investment bankers don’t know that, so bullshit that make number go up rules.

                                        Data centers in space are the tulip craze of our age!

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                                        • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                                          Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

                                          https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                                          Comments due March 6.

                                          I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

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                                          @sundogplanets

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