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  • captain acab :antifa:R captain acab :antifa:

    look if those statues didn't want to be torn down maybe they shouldn't have been dressed so confederately 🤷🏻‍♀️

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    anyways horseshoe theory is some stupid bullshit, and when you invoke it you are telling on yourself. you're not a centrist, you're a right winger who doesn't want to admit that you're in bed with nazis

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    • captain acab :antifa:R captain acab :antifa:

      anyways horseshoe theory is some stupid bullshit, and when you invoke it you are telling on yourself. you're not a centrist, you're a right winger who doesn't want to admit that you're in bed with nazis

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      in fact I would go so far as to say centrism doesn't really exist. it's all right wing. there is no middle ground between "everyone should have equal rights" and "let's commit genocide"

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      • captain acab :antifa:R captain acab :antifa:

        in fact I would go so far as to say centrism doesn't really exist. it's all right wing. there is no middle ground between "everyone should have equal rights" and "let's commit genocide"

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        @redsad

        I'm partial to the fish hook theory myself.

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        • captain acab :antifa:R captain acab :antifa:

          begging centrists to understand this

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          @redsad Well, there was the reign of terror, the Bolshevik uprising, the cultural revolution, night of the three P's...

          KKK and ICE are easily worse than these, but we need to be conscious once the Left wins political strength, there are (mostly AMAB) elements who will try to abuse their new found power. If you want to see who that will be, look for those claiming Joseph Stalin never actually killed anybody and that witchcraft is Anti-Revolution.

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          • David BramianD David Bramian

            @redsad Well, there was the reign of terror, the Bolshevik uprising, the cultural revolution, night of the three P's...

            KKK and ICE are easily worse than these, but we need to be conscious once the Left wins political strength, there are (mostly AMAB) elements who will try to abuse their new found power. If you want to see who that will be, look for those claiming Joseph Stalin never actually killed anybody and that witchcraft is Anti-Revolution.

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            @davbram thank you for this comment, i was able to mark off "doesn't understand Stalin was reactionary" and "but the Bolsheviks" on my Centrist Excuses bingo card

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            • David BramianD David Bramian

              @redsad Well, there was the reign of terror, the Bolshevik uprising, the cultural revolution, night of the three P's...

              KKK and ICE are easily worse than these, but we need to be conscious once the Left wins political strength, there are (mostly AMAB) elements who will try to abuse their new found power. If you want to see who that will be, look for those claiming Joseph Stalin never actually killed anybody and that witchcraft is Anti-Revolution.

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              @davbram @redsad Stalin continued the policies of tsarism: exile of political opponents to Siberia, resettlement of entire nations, imperialism, absolute power, anti-Semitism. Only more.

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              • captain acab :antifa:R captain acab :antifa:

                @davbram thank you for this comment, i was able to mark off "doesn't understand Stalin was reactionary" and "but the Bolsheviks" on my Centrist Excuses bingo card

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                @redsad Way to go champ, can't wait to see what other kind of easily avoidable mistakes you'll drag the movement into by ignoring history. you gonna jail buddhist monks and burn pop music records too?

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                • David BramianD David Bramian

                  @redsad Way to go champ, can't wait to see what other kind of easily avoidable mistakes you'll drag the movement into by ignoring history. you gonna jail buddhist monks and burn pop music records too?

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                  @davbram

                  yeah one of us is ignoring history here and it ain't me, bubba.

                  https://ohai.social/@redsad/115946466929641452

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                  • captain acab :antifa:R captain acab :antifa:

                    @davbram thank you for this comment, i was able to mark off "doesn't understand Stalin was reactionary" and "but the Bolsheviks" on my Centrist Excuses bingo card

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                    @redsad Who's strawmanning now? I didn't mention Stalin as a criticism of the far left. I WAS calling out his present day fanbois, who DO EXIST on mastodon. Sure that are a minority, but it only takes one demagogue to shit in the pool. If you had any long term experience with real protest movements you would know this.

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                    • David BramianD David Bramian

                      @redsad Who's strawmanning now? I didn't mention Stalin as a criticism of the far left. I WAS calling out his present day fanbois, who DO EXIST on mastodon. Sure that are a minority, but it only takes one demagogue to shit in the pool. If you had any long term experience with real protest movements you would know this.

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                      @davbram ok, sport. I will keep an eye out for those mastodon demagogues 🫡

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                      • captain acab :antifa:R captain acab :antifa:

                        in fact I would go so far as to say centrism doesn't really exist. it's all right wing. there is no middle ground between "everyone should have equal rights" and "let's commit genocide"

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                        @redsad Hey, you can’t say everyone should have equal rights, and then just say some people don’t have the equal right to commit genocide.

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                        • Chris VreelandD Chris Vreeland

                          @redsad Hey, you can’t say everyone should have equal rights, and then just say some people don’t have the equal right to commit genocide.

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                          @Devils_Rancher @redsad Then they start claiming you're a communist extremist and a bolshevik, because how dare you deny their right to genocide and opress, you opressor!

                          I've seen them even call centrist parties (Like the Czech Pirate Party, which is the most progressive, pro equal-rights one we have) bolsheviks, because they dare submit such horrid ideas like "Hey what if we allowed same sex marriage and adoption" or "What if we made gender affirming care more accessible" or "What if we punished monopolies and supported smaller businesses" or "What if we made housing cheaper by taxing empty unused flats that people hold onto for speculating the housing market"

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                          • Orange Lizard GirlthingN Orange Lizard Girlthing

                            @Devils_Rancher @redsad Then they start claiming you're a communist extremist and a bolshevik, because how dare you deny their right to genocide and opress, you opressor!

                            I've seen them even call centrist parties (Like the Czech Pirate Party, which is the most progressive, pro equal-rights one we have) bolsheviks, because they dare submit such horrid ideas like "Hey what if we allowed same sex marriage and adoption" or "What if we made gender affirming care more accessible" or "What if we punished monopolies and supported smaller businesses" or "What if we made housing cheaper by taxing empty unused flats that people hold onto for speculating the housing market"

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                            @NaahraTheScaled @redsad The very notion that We The People should empower a government of the people, by the people and for the people is just straight-up Stalinism. Regardless of course of whatever Stalinism really was.

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                            • Chris VreelandD Chris Vreeland

                              @NaahraTheScaled @redsad The very notion that We The People should empower a government of the people, by the people and for the people is just straight-up Stalinism. Regardless of course of whatever Stalinism really was.

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                              @Devils_Rancher @redsad Stalinism is a good example of why one needs to be more vigilant fighting opportunistic oppressive assholes who clearly don't care about the people and was nowhere near the idea of what the left should represent.

                              The right just so happens to be filled to the brim with these same people who don't even bother pretending they care about society, for them it's always been a fight with their fellow man for every resource until there'll be nothing left. To quote a meme video with Squidward, "The more they'll take, the less they'll have. They'll starve surrounded by gold"

                              And they fool you into making the left seem so much worse, to think teen me almost believed them (Thankfully I met people who managed to pull me away from that mess, but I'll never live down the asshole I was in my late teens)

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                              • captain acab :antifa:R captain acab :antifa:

                                in fact I would go so far as to say centrism doesn't really exist. it's all right wing. there is no middle ground between "everyone should have equal rights" and "let's commit genocide"

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                                @redsad agree. centrism is right-wing because it's conservative. let's keep the status quo etc. Letting people who want to *wind back* human progress characterise their aims as "conservative" instead of regressive is a tactical error.

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