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  • Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
    Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
    Charlie Stross
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    RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

    Notes for Americans:

    1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

    2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

    3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

    Seán FenianZ Greem (Graeme. Not Graham!)G Charlie StrossC tautologyT Robert [KJ5ELX] :donor:F 8 Replies Last reply
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    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

      RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

      Notes for Americans:

      1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

      2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

      3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

      Seán FenianZ This user is from outside of this forum
      Seán FenianZ This user is from outside of this forum
      Seán Fenian
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      @cstross@wandering.shop I love the BS1363 plug. US wall plugs are FLIMSY JUNK.

      Also, ChatGPT doesn't even have the PINS in the right places.

      I saw a similar LLM-generated diagram of how to wire an outlet into a wall box. It was even more surreal.

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      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

        RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

        Notes for Americans:

        1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

        2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

        3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

        Greem (Graeme. Not Graham!)G This user is from outside of this forum
        Greem (Graeme. Not Graham!)G This user is from outside of this forum
        Greem (Graeme. Not Graham!)
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        @cstross Genuine Darwin Award territory.

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        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

          RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

          Notes for Americans:

          1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

          2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

          3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

          Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
          Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
          Charlie Stross
          wrote last edited by
          #4

          There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

          Eric GoodwinA George BG Daniel CarosoneU MozM Rolf Steinort (314.8 ppm)R 17 Replies Last reply
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          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

            There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

            Eric GoodwinA This user is from outside of this forum
            Eric GoodwinA This user is from outside of this forum
            Eric Goodwin
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            #5

            @cstross Blive implies the existence of a Bdead

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            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

              There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

              George BG This user is from outside of this forum
              George BG This user is from outside of this forum
              George B
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              @cstross

              Was gonna say I knew I had already seen an LLM tell someone to kill themselves with electricity before

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              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

                Daniel CarosoneU This user is from outside of this forum
                Daniel CarosoneU This user is from outside of this forum
                Daniel Carosone
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                @cstross only missing the enormous rat-penis

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                • Eric GoodwinA Eric Goodwin

                  @cstross Blive implies the existence of a Bdead

                  OwenTO This user is from outside of this forum
                  OwenTO This user is from outside of this forum
                  OwenT
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                  @cstross @auxonic as in, if you follow this diagram you will bdead?

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                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                    RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                    Notes for Americans:

                    1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                    2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                    3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                    tautologyT This user is from outside of this forum
                    tautologyT This user is from outside of this forum
                    tautology
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                    #9

                    @cstross I do these threads every so often. My most recent one was on my Bluesky where I got four LLMs to draw maps progressively getting more zoomed in (the World, Europe, UK, Yorkshire, York).

                    Things got worse each time you zoomed in, sometimes with "memories" from the previous image. My favourite was the attached version of Yorkshire.

                    I'll do another one in a month or two.

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                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                      There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

                      MozM This user is from outside of this forum
                      MozM This user is from outside of this forum
                      Moz
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                      #10

                      @cstross that one is such obvious garbage that even if someone tried to follow it they'd fail.

                      The danger is with plausible but wrong. OTOH the one showing phase and neural linked is going to go bang quickly, where swapping phase and earth is a known killer. Maybe that's why the LLM wanted a fused earth?

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                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                        There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

                        Rolf Steinort (314.8 ppm)R This user is from outside of this forum
                        Rolf Steinort (314.8 ppm)R This user is from outside of this forum
                        Rolf Steinort (314.8 ppm)
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                        @cstross Escher's Suicide Plug

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                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                          There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

                          Hugo MillsD This user is from outside of this forum
                          Hugo MillsD This user is from outside of this forum
                          Hugo Mills
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                          #12

                          @cstross That one at least is so bad that you couldn't actually match it to anything in a real plug. The one up-thread is much worse, because it looks more or less like the innards of a plug.

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                          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                            There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

                            synlogic4242S This user is from outside of this forum
                            synlogic4242S This user is from outside of this forum
                            synlogic4242
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                            @cstross adding that diagram to the set of things I remember when someone tells me they're adding AI to some product/domain as a Good Thing

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                            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                              RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                              Notes for Americans:

                              1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                              2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                              3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                              Robert [KJ5ELX] :donor:F This user is from outside of this forum
                              Robert [KJ5ELX] :donor:F This user is from outside of this forum
                              Robert [KJ5ELX] :donor:
                              wrote last edited by
                              #14

                              @cstross

                              oh yeah, well 60hz works better for clocks.. And our Sonic ran faster than your Sonc... So!.

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                              • Daniel CarosoneU Daniel Carosone

                                @cstross only missing the enormous rat-penis

                                Hugo MillsD This user is from outside of this forum
                                Hugo MillsD This user is from outside of this forum
                                Hugo Mills
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                                @uep @cstross Why bring Elon Musk into this?

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                                • Hugo MillsD Hugo Mills

                                  @uep @cstross Why bring Elon Musk into this?

                                  Daniel CarosoneU This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Daniel CarosoneU This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Daniel Carosone
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                                  @darkling @cstross well now, I can think of worse places to apply 13A of 240V

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                                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                    There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

                                    GillingerG This user is from outside of this forum
                                    GillingerG This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Gillinger
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                                    @cstross
                                    Looks plausible to me 🤣

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                                    • Eric GoodwinA Eric Goodwin

                                      @cstross Blive implies the existence of a Bdead

                                      CrystaleD This user is from outside of this forum
                                      CrystaleD This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Crystale
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                                      @auxonic @cstross I blive I can flyyyy

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                                      • MozM Moz

                                        @cstross that one is such obvious garbage that even if someone tried to follow it they'd fail.

                                        The danger is with plausible but wrong. OTOH the one showing phase and neural linked is going to go bang quickly, where swapping phase and earth is a known killer. Maybe that's why the LLM wanted a fused earth?

                                        sabikS This user is from outside of this forum
                                        sabikS This user is from outside of this forum
                                        sabik
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                                        #19

                                        @moz @cstross
                                        I mean, you'd hope that a plug which shorts live and earth would just trip the house breaker or RCD, but it could also make nearby appliances live or cause a fire, if there's a fault or if the rest of the wiring is to the same standard

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                                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                          There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

                                          NfoonfN This user is from outside of this forum
                                          NfoonfN This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Nfoonf
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                                          @cstross yeah right….

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