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  • Eric GoodwinA Eric Goodwin

    @cstross Blive implies the existence of a Bdead

    OwenTO This user is from outside of this forum
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    @cstross @auxonic as in, if you follow this diagram you will bdead?

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    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

      RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

      Notes for Americans:

      1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

      2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

      3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

      tautologyT This user is from outside of this forum
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      @cstross I do these threads every so often. My most recent one was on my Bluesky where I got four LLMs to draw maps progressively getting more zoomed in (the World, Europe, UK, Yorkshire, York).

      Things got worse each time you zoomed in, sometimes with "memories" from the previous image. My favourite was the attached version of Yorkshire.

      I'll do another one in a month or two.

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      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

        There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

        MozM This user is from outside of this forum
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        Moz
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        #10

        @cstross that one is such obvious garbage that even if someone tried to follow it they'd fail.

        The danger is with plausible but wrong. OTOH the one showing phase and neural linked is going to go bang quickly, where swapping phase and earth is a known killer. Maybe that's why the LLM wanted a fused earth?

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        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

          There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

          Rolf Steinort (314.8 ppm)R This user is from outside of this forum
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          Rolf Steinort (314.8 ppm)
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          @cstross Escher's Suicide Plug

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          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

            There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

            Hugo MillsD This user is from outside of this forum
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            Hugo Mills
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            @cstross That one at least is so bad that you couldn't actually match it to anything in a real plug. The one up-thread is much worse, because it looks more or less like the innards of a plug.

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            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

              There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

              synlogic4242S This user is from outside of this forum
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              @cstross adding that diagram to the set of things I remember when someone tells me they're adding AI to some product/domain as a Good Thing

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              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                Notes for Americans:

                1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                Robert [KJ5ELX] :donor:F This user is from outside of this forum
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                Robert [KJ5ELX] :donor:
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                @cstross

                oh yeah, well 60hz works better for clocks.. And our Sonic ran faster than your Sonc... So!.

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                • Daniel CarosoneU Daniel Carosone

                  @cstross only missing the enormous rat-penis

                  Hugo MillsD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @uep @cstross Why bring Elon Musk into this?

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                  • Hugo MillsD Hugo Mills

                    @uep @cstross Why bring Elon Musk into this?

                    Daniel CarosoneU This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @darkling @cstross well now, I can think of worse places to apply 13A of 240V

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                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                      There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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                      Gillinger
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                      @cstross
                      Looks plausible to me 🤣

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                      • Eric GoodwinA Eric Goodwin

                        @cstross Blive implies the existence of a Bdead

                        CrystaleD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Crystale
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                        @auxonic @cstross I blive I can flyyyy

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                        • MozM Moz

                          @cstross that one is such obvious garbage that even if someone tried to follow it they'd fail.

                          The danger is with plausible but wrong. OTOH the one showing phase and neural linked is going to go bang quickly, where swapping phase and earth is a known killer. Maybe that's why the LLM wanted a fused earth?

                          sabikS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          sabik
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                          @moz @cstross
                          I mean, you'd hope that a plug which shorts live and earth would just trip the house breaker or RCD, but it could also make nearby appliances live or cause a fire, if there's a fault or if the rest of the wiring is to the same standard

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                          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                            There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

                            NfoonfN This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @cstross yeah right….

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                            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                              There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

                              Nicovel0 🍉N This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @cstross MY EYES

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                              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

                                J.J.Fux 1660-1741M This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @cstross Elon Musk's Grok has its own quirks:

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                                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                  There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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                                  @cstross

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                                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                    There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

                                    quello che perde i pezziL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    quello che perde i pezzi
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                                    @cstross
                                    that's what you get feeding Escher drawings to AI bots

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                                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                      There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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                                      @cstross Ok I think I know who did the wiring in my house now. They literally painted the end of the wire when they used the wrong one.

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                                      • CrystaleD Crystale

                                        @auxonic @cstross I blive I can flyyyy

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                                        @darckcrystale @auxonic @cstross

                                        Oh, you'll fly all right, but the landing's gonna hurt.

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                                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                          There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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                                          @cstross

                                          How the Holy Hell did they generate that? I mean, the UK has had more than enough competing designs over the years (some more dangerous than others), but that one's a physical impossibility.

                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_power_plugs_and_sockets:_British_and_related_types

                                          I've used most of those, over the years, plus the bizarre one with standard earth pin, one round pin and one rectangular (rotated 45 degrees) with fuses for both small pins (Bi-phase 240V centre-tapped to Earth!) That one was at Dunlop, and now gone. (Thank the Gods.)

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