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  • Hugo MillsD Hugo Mills

    @uep @cstross Why bring Elon Musk into this?

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    @darkling @cstross well now, I can think of worse places to apply 13A of 240V

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    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

      There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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      #17

      @cstross
      Looks plausible to me 🤣

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      • Eric GoodwinA Eric Goodwin

        @cstross Blive implies the existence of a Bdead

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        @auxonic @cstross I blive I can flyyyy

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        • MozM Moz

          @cstross that one is such obvious garbage that even if someone tried to follow it they'd fail.

          The danger is with plausible but wrong. OTOH the one showing phase and neural linked is going to go bang quickly, where swapping phase and earth is a known killer. Maybe that's why the LLM wanted a fused earth?

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          @moz @cstross
          I mean, you'd hope that a plug which shorts live and earth would just trip the house breaker or RCD, but it could also make nearby appliances live or cause a fire, if there's a fault or if the rest of the wiring is to the same standard

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          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

            There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

            NfoonfN This user is from outside of this forum
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            @cstross yeah right….

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            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

              There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

              Nicovel0 🍉N This user is from outside of this forum
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              @cstross MY EYES

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              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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                @cstross Elon Musk's Grok has its own quirks:

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                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                  There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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                  @cstross

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                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                    There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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                    @cstross
                    that's what you get feeding Escher drawings to AI bots

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                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                      There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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                      @cstross Ok I think I know who did the wiring in my house now. They literally painted the end of the wire when they used the wrong one.

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                      • CrystaleD Crystale

                        @auxonic @cstross I blive I can flyyyy

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                        @darckcrystale @auxonic @cstross

                        Oh, you'll fly all right, but the landing's gonna hurt.

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                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                          There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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                          @cstross

                          How the Holy Hell did they generate that? I mean, the UK has had more than enough competing designs over the years (some more dangerous than others), but that one's a physical impossibility.

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_power_plugs_and_sockets:_British_and_related_types

                          I've used most of those, over the years, plus the bizarre one with standard earth pin, one round pin and one rectangular (rotated 45 degrees) with fuses for both small pins (Bi-phase 240V centre-tapped to Earth!) That one was at Dunlop, and now gone. (Thank the Gods.)

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                          • ColmD Colm

                            @cstross

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                            @dotcolm @cstross That bit of stripped wire on the bottom left is also going to hurt

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                            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                              RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                              Notes for Americans:

                              1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                              2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                              3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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                              @cstross 1.a) The UK still had homes wired with the old round pin (2,5,15 amp) plugs until stupidly late.

                              A 2a round pin gave just enough energy to use a wee heating element to boil a cup of water.

                              For 13A plugs, the lowest available fuse was 3A so an old boilette could overheat for minutes before the fuse would blow....

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                              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                                Notes for Americans:

                                1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                                2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                                3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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                                @cstross It's OK, I've called the Darwin Award committee, they'll sort it out.

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                                  @jmaibaum @cstross

                                  I thought 'that needs a confused looking roly-poly wandering around in it.'

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                                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                    There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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                                    @cstross the yellow wire is to report when you have put a coin in the appliance to pay for the electricicles

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                                    • CrystaleD Crystale

                                      @auxonic @cstross I blive I can flyyyy

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                                      @darckcrystale @auxonic @cstross lick the outlet then I touch the sky

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                                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                        RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                                        Notes for Americans:

                                        1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                                        2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                                        3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                                        DressToKILTD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @cstross as an American who was awake and aware prior to 1992 and growing up in a house with multiple appliances from the 60s, I can attest that the only household appliances I ever saw that did not include pre-molded plugs were washing machines, and the one I bought in 2024 was the same way. Agree with the other two. Most houses of the day had a 230 outlet specifically for the air conditioner. Washers tend to be 230 as well. We have standardized on dumb.

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                                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                          There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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                                          @cstross blive

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