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  3. If you are a Keynesian, or proto-Keynesian then this chart is the key to understanding the continuing flat-lining of the UK economy; the continuing crisis in 'effective demand'.

If you are a Keynesian, or proto-Keynesian then this chart is the key to understanding the continuing flat-lining of the UK economy; the continuing crisis in 'effective demand'.

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  • Albert CardonaA Albert Cardona

    @ChrisMayLA6 @alex_p_roe

    The photo-Keynesian is also ... rather physics flavoured! Proto?

    Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC This user is from outside of this forum
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    @albertcardona @alex_p_roe

    ha ha, thanks also now corrected - not have a good evening on the typo front, am i? Typo-spot much appreciated, thanks

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    • Ken MilmoreK Ken Milmore

      @ChrisMayLA6 My OH asks is that graph inflation adjusted or is it in absolute £?

      Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC This user is from outside of this forum
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      @kbm0

      as the data is from the ONS, I'm going to say inflation adjusted, although it doesn't actually say

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      • Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC Emeritus Prof Christopher May

        @kbm0

        as the data is from the ONS, I'm going to say inflation adjusted, although it doesn't actually say

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        @ChrisMayLA6 Thanks.

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        • marxist insurgency leaderT marxist insurgency leader

          @ChrisMayLA6 wait why is that keyed to covid and not brexit

          Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC This user is from outside of this forum
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          @t54r4n1

          my guess is that the Brexit effect is the key - the pst covid trend, now includes Brexit issues after the big covid dip

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          • Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC Emeritus Prof Christopher May

            @alex_p_roe

            ha ha, thanks Alex... clearly channeling Barry White this evening - typo spot, very appreciated

            Alex P RoeA This user is from outside of this forum
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            @ChrisMayLA6 In this day and age, Barry White needs to be channeled much more! 🙂

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            • Alex P RoeA Alex P Roe

              @ChrisMayLA6 In this day and age, Barry White needs to be channeled much more! 🙂

              Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC This user is from outside of this forum
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              @alex_p_roe

              Indeed... by next gig, the day before Valentines, will have a Barry White medley for sure

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              • Alex P RoeA Alex P Roe

                @ChrisMayLA6 In this day and age, Barry White needs to be channeled much more! 🙂

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                @alex_p_roe @ChrisMayLA6 one ticket please! 😎

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                • Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC Emeritus Prof Christopher May

                  @alex_p_roe

                  Indeed... by next gig, the day before Valentines, will have a Barry White medley for sure

                  Alex P RoeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @ChrisMayLA6 👍 It's the White thing to do! 🙂

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                  • Michael  🌨️ 🐵M Michael 🌨️ 🐵

                    @ChrisMayLA6
                    I'm guessing that should be 'costs of living crisis', but I'm pretty sure that goes hand-in-hand with a 'costs of loving crisis'.

                    Meanwhile, Starmer et al. have no idea of how to handle this, apart from more effective austerity.

                    Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UKV This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @mplouffe @ChrisMayLA6 The Cost of Loving was an album title for the Stye Council in 1987 (I suspect Weller quite deliberately picked that pun due to the way the country was going back then, not dissimilar to today)

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                    • Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UKV Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK

                      @mplouffe @ChrisMayLA6 The Cost of Loving was an album title for the Stye Council in 1987 (I suspect Weller quite deliberately picked that pun due to the way the country was going back then, not dissimilar to today)

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                      @vfrmedia

                      Thanks for the music rec!

                      @ChrisMayLA6

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                      • Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC Emeritus Prof Christopher May

                        If you are a Keynesian, or proto-Keynesian then this chart is the key to understanding the continuing flat-lining of the UK economy; the continuing crisis in 'effective demand'.

                        Static effective demand driven by the costs of living crisis, compounded by the draining upwards of wealth is on of the UK's key problems... and reflecting stagnant productivity.

                        (Household consumption is a reasonable proxy for effective demand, as it reduces the effect of top 1% consumption).

                        #economics #politics

                        Ray McCarthyR This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @ChrisMayLA6
                        Brexit or Covid?

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                        • Ray McCarthyR Ray McCarthy

                          @ChrisMayLA6
                          Brexit or Covid?

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                          @raymaccarthy @ChrisMayLA6
                          Definitely Brexit. Flatlining started way before 2020 Jan.

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                          • Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC Emeritus Prof Christopher May

                            If you are a Keynesian, or proto-Keynesian then this chart is the key to understanding the continuing flat-lining of the UK economy; the continuing crisis in 'effective demand'.

                            Static effective demand driven by the costs of living crisis, compounded by the draining upwards of wealth is on of the UK's key problems... and reflecting stagnant productivity.

                            (Household consumption is a reasonable proxy for effective demand, as it reduces the effect of top 1% consumption).

                            #economics #politics

                            Alan ZimmermanA This user is from outside of this forum
                            Alan ZimmermanA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @ChrisMayLA6 it wasn't just COVID at the time the graph flattened.

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