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  3. If you are a Keynesian, or proto-Keynesian then this chart is the key to understanding the continuing flat-lining of the UK economy; the continuing crisis in 'effective demand'.

If you are a Keynesian, or proto-Keynesian then this chart is the key to understanding the continuing flat-lining of the UK economy; the continuing crisis in 'effective demand'.

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  • Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC Emeritus Prof Christopher May

    If you are a Keynesian, or proto-Keynesian then this chart is the key to understanding the continuing flat-lining of the UK economy; the continuing crisis in 'effective demand'.

    Static effective demand driven by the costs of living crisis, compounded by the draining upwards of wealth is on of the UK's key problems... and reflecting stagnant productivity.

    (Household consumption is a reasonable proxy for effective demand, as it reduces the effect of top 1% consumption).

    #economics #politics

    Michael  🌨️ 🐵M This user is from outside of this forum
    Michael  🌨️ 🐵M This user is from outside of this forum
    Michael 🌨️ 🐵
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    @ChrisMayLA6
    I'm guessing that should be 'costs of living crisis', but I'm pretty sure that goes hand-in-hand with a 'costs of loving crisis'.

    Meanwhile, Starmer et al. have no idea of how to handle this, apart from more effective austerity.

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    • Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC Emeritus Prof Christopher May

      If you are a Keynesian, or proto-Keynesian then this chart is the key to understanding the continuing flat-lining of the UK economy; the continuing crisis in 'effective demand'.

      Static effective demand driven by the costs of living crisis, compounded by the draining upwards of wealth is on of the UK's key problems... and reflecting stagnant productivity.

      (Household consumption is a reasonable proxy for effective demand, as it reduces the effect of top 1% consumption).

      #economics #politics

      ohmrunO This user is from outside of this forum
      ohmrunO This user is from outside of this forum
      ohmrun
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      @ChrisMayLA6
      I can read the legend, but I assume the red one reads: "eating shit but moreso"

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      • Alex P RoeA Alex P Roe

        @ChrisMayLA6 Keynes was right - the cost of loving crisis counts! We need more love! 😉 #typo

        Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC This user is from outside of this forum
        Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC This user is from outside of this forum
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        @alex_p_roe

        ha ha, thanks Alex... clearly channeling Barry White this evening - typo spot, very appreciated

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        • Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC Emeritus Prof Christopher May

          If you are a Keynesian, or proto-Keynesian then this chart is the key to understanding the continuing flat-lining of the UK economy; the continuing crisis in 'effective demand'.

          Static effective demand driven by the costs of living crisis, compounded by the draining upwards of wealth is on of the UK's key problems... and reflecting stagnant productivity.

          (Household consumption is a reasonable proxy for effective demand, as it reduces the effect of top 1% consumption).

          #economics #politics

          marxist insurgency leaderT This user is from outside of this forum
          marxist insurgency leaderT This user is from outside of this forum
          marxist insurgency leader
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          @ChrisMayLA6 wait why is that keyed to covid and not brexit

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          • Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC Emeritus Prof Christopher May

            @alex_p_roe

            ha ha, thanks Alex... clearly channeling Barry White this evening - typo spot, very appreciated

            Albert CardonaA This user is from outside of this forum
            Albert CardonaA This user is from outside of this forum
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            @ChrisMayLA6 @alex_p_roe

            The photo-Keynesian is also ... rather physics flavoured! Proto?

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            • Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC Emeritus Prof Christopher May

              If you are a Keynesian, or proto-Keynesian then this chart is the key to understanding the continuing flat-lining of the UK economy; the continuing crisis in 'effective demand'.

              Static effective demand driven by the costs of living crisis, compounded by the draining upwards of wealth is on of the UK's key problems... and reflecting stagnant productivity.

              (Household consumption is a reasonable proxy for effective demand, as it reduces the effect of top 1% consumption).

              #economics #politics

              Ken MilmoreK This user is from outside of this forum
              Ken MilmoreK This user is from outside of this forum
              Ken Milmore
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              @ChrisMayLA6 My OH asks is that graph inflation adjusted or is it in absolute £?

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              • Albert CardonaA Albert Cardona

                @ChrisMayLA6 @alex_p_roe

                The photo-Keynesian is also ... rather physics flavoured! Proto?

                Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC This user is from outside of this forum
                Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC This user is from outside of this forum
                Emeritus Prof Christopher May
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                @albertcardona @alex_p_roe

                ha ha, thanks also now corrected - not have a good evening on the typo front, am i? Typo-spot much appreciated, thanks

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                • Ken MilmoreK Ken Milmore

                  @ChrisMayLA6 My OH asks is that graph inflation adjusted or is it in absolute £?

                  Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC This user is from outside of this forum
                  Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC This user is from outside of this forum
                  Emeritus Prof Christopher May
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                  @kbm0

                  as the data is from the ONS, I'm going to say inflation adjusted, although it doesn't actually say

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                  • Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC Emeritus Prof Christopher May

                    @kbm0

                    as the data is from the ONS, I'm going to say inflation adjusted, although it doesn't actually say

                    Ken MilmoreK This user is from outside of this forum
                    Ken MilmoreK This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @ChrisMayLA6 Thanks.

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                    • marxist insurgency leaderT marxist insurgency leader

                      @ChrisMayLA6 wait why is that keyed to covid and not brexit

                      Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC This user is from outside of this forum
                      Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC This user is from outside of this forum
                      Emeritus Prof Christopher May
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                      @t54r4n1

                      my guess is that the Brexit effect is the key - the pst covid trend, now includes Brexit issues after the big covid dip

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                      • Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC Emeritus Prof Christopher May

                        @alex_p_roe

                        ha ha, thanks Alex... clearly channeling Barry White this evening - typo spot, very appreciated

                        Alex P RoeA This user is from outside of this forum
                        Alex P RoeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @ChrisMayLA6 In this day and age, Barry White needs to be channeled much more! 🙂

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                        • Alex P RoeA Alex P Roe

                          @ChrisMayLA6 In this day and age, Barry White needs to be channeled much more! 🙂

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                          Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC This user is from outside of this forum
                          Emeritus Prof Christopher May
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                          @alex_p_roe

                          Indeed... by next gig, the day before Valentines, will have a Barry White medley for sure

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                          • Alex P RoeA Alex P Roe

                            @ChrisMayLA6 In this day and age, Barry White needs to be channeled much more! 🙂

                            dangercakeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @alex_p_roe @ChrisMayLA6 one ticket please! 😎

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                            • Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC Emeritus Prof Christopher May

                              @alex_p_roe

                              Indeed... by next gig, the day before Valentines, will have a Barry White medley for sure

                              Alex P RoeA This user is from outside of this forum
                              Alex P RoeA This user is from outside of this forum
                              Alex P Roe
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                              @ChrisMayLA6 👍 It's the White thing to do! 🙂

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                              • Michael  🌨️ 🐵M Michael 🌨️ 🐵

                                @ChrisMayLA6
                                I'm guessing that should be 'costs of living crisis', but I'm pretty sure that goes hand-in-hand with a 'costs of loving crisis'.

                                Meanwhile, Starmer et al. have no idea of how to handle this, apart from more effective austerity.

                                Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UKV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @mplouffe @ChrisMayLA6 The Cost of Loving was an album title for the Stye Council in 1987 (I suspect Weller quite deliberately picked that pun due to the way the country was going back then, not dissimilar to today)

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                                • Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UKV Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK

                                  @mplouffe @ChrisMayLA6 The Cost of Loving was an album title for the Stye Council in 1987 (I suspect Weller quite deliberately picked that pun due to the way the country was going back then, not dissimilar to today)

                                  Michael  🌨️ 🐵M This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @vfrmedia

                                  Thanks for the music rec!

                                  @ChrisMayLA6

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                                  • Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC Emeritus Prof Christopher May

                                    If you are a Keynesian, or proto-Keynesian then this chart is the key to understanding the continuing flat-lining of the UK economy; the continuing crisis in 'effective demand'.

                                    Static effective demand driven by the costs of living crisis, compounded by the draining upwards of wealth is on of the UK's key problems... and reflecting stagnant productivity.

                                    (Household consumption is a reasonable proxy for effective demand, as it reduces the effect of top 1% consumption).

                                    #economics #politics

                                    Ray McCarthyR This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Ray McCarthyR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @ChrisMayLA6
                                    Brexit or Covid?

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                                    • Ray McCarthyR Ray McCarthy

                                      @ChrisMayLA6
                                      Brexit or Covid?

                                      random thoughtsH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @raymaccarthy @ChrisMayLA6
                                      Definitely Brexit. Flatlining started way before 2020 Jan.

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                                      • Emeritus Prof Christopher MayC Emeritus Prof Christopher May

                                        If you are a Keynesian, or proto-Keynesian then this chart is the key to understanding the continuing flat-lining of the UK economy; the continuing crisis in 'effective demand'.

                                        Static effective demand driven by the costs of living crisis, compounded by the draining upwards of wealth is on of the UK's key problems... and reflecting stagnant productivity.

                                        (Household consumption is a reasonable proxy for effective demand, as it reduces the effect of top 1% consumption).

                                        #economics #politics

                                        Alan ZimmermanA This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Alan ZimmermanA This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Alan Zimmerman
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                                        @ChrisMayLA6 it wasn't just COVID at the time the graph flattened.

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