"transfeminists who don't center transmasculine people are generally white and have never been marginalized in their life" my dude our marginalization begins when the doctor puts the 'M' on our birth records

@YKantRachelRead follow this to its logical conclusion and what you get is that transfems can't be marginalized because transfemininity is a bourgeois decadence and all sheems just have the money to undo any marginalization they might otherwise face

this is just "transness is a hobby for bored men with too much money" with woke dressing

@imbl@social.treehouse.systems @YKantRachelRead@social.treehouse.systems Let's be honest, for a lot of 'leftist' folks any femininity is seen as a bourgeois decadence

@steff @imbl women and fems are always blamed for our own oppression, even by male "leftists"

@YKantRachelRead @steff ummmmmm acktchually misogynism is only caused by capitalism, so u need to stop complaining about paid-tree-arcky or whatever and instead do a bunch of labor for my communist party who will abolish women's suffrage (sic) along with capitawism uwu

@imbl@social.treehouse.systems @YKantRachelRead@social.treehouse.systems I've literally heard leftist men say things like this, while demanding sex from femmes.

@steff @imbl @YKantRachelRead verilybitchy made a very good video essay about that; but even before the essay came out, I was saying this; that so much of what the culture thinks are femininity signifiers are historically class signifiers. high heels, painted nails, corsettes, lace, high fashion; all things that used to be way more expensive and worn by upper class men. there was a deliberate and explicitly misogynistic shift to associate bourgeoisie and frivolous things with femininity so men could look serious and practical by comparison

@bri7@social.treehouse.systems @imbl@social.treehouse.systems @YKantRachelRead@social.treehouse.systems Definitely. Thomas King wrote like a 400 page book on how queer and feminine gestures and bodies became coded as decedent in the 18th with the creation of fixed western gender norms. Fascinating stuff

@steff @imbl @YKantRachelRead still, having nice nails, smooth skin, and nice clothes is nice. we can reject the bourgie framing, we don’t live in revolutionary france. this stuff is cheap and accessible now.

@bri7@social.treehouse.systems @imbl@social.treehouse.systems @YKantRachelRead@social.treehouse.systems "If you're not operating an industrial machine or welding steel, are you really a worker?" - leftist men

@bri7@social.treehouse.systems @YKantRachelRead@social.treehouse.systems @imbl@social.treehouse.systems I've literally been in discussions with leftest men who argue teachers, nurses, and waitresses aren't 'workers' because they don't "create value." Note: they are almost always fem coded jobs.