Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.
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@stefan Strange. Why wouldn't they choose ActivityPub instead?
@GrahamDowns @stefan They do have their own servers here already, might be diversifying (and yeah, the intrusive verification). -
@GrahamDowns @stefan They do have their own servers here already, might be diversifying (and yeah, the intrusive verification).@GrahamDowns @stefan ...haha yeeeah after reading it, it's the centralisation that seems to be the draw for creating it that way.
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@stefan Strange. Why wouldn't they choose ActivityPub instead?
@GrahamDowns Great question, would love to know as well!
(Not that I think we'll be missing out much.)
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@stefan It could just be their own masto instances? Please tell me it's just their own masto instances?
@uastronomer Nope, looks like it's using ATproto: https://atprotocol.dev/w-for-atproto/
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@uastronomer Nope, looks like it's using ATproto: https://atprotocol.dev/w-for-atproto/
@stefan @uastronomer does ATproto still require that the main Bluesky servers are up?
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No, I stopped following these non-real standard projects. I do also doubt some actors.
I am very disappointed - there are more and more such projects where volunteers are involved …
https://digitalcourage.social/@sl007/115934447986369998
cc @bjoernsta @leonido (shame on you)@sl007 I agree. To me, ATproto/atmosphere will always be an attempt to coopt a successful grassroots movement that aims to take control of our social media away from tech companies. And they seem to be quite successful.
Still, seeing efforts like Blacksky and Northsky does give me hope that the control can be maybe wrestled back.
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@stefan @uastronomer does ATproto still require that the main Bluesky servers are up?
@jcrabapple Blacksky recently managed to create their own appview, which was the last missing piece for full independence from Bluesky, from what I understand.
As for Northsky, --
"yes, Northsky will have it's own Apps / AppView as part of Phase 2 of development."
https://bsky.app/profile/jackvalinsky.com/post/3mcsel254hc2w
(No word from Eurosky in the same thread.)
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Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.
"European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."
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@jcrabapple Blacksky recently managed to create their own appview, which was the last missing piece for full independence from Bluesky, from what I understand.
As for Northsky, --
"yes, Northsky will have it's own Apps / AppView as part of Phase 2 of development."
https://bsky.app/profile/jackvalinsky.com/post/3mcsel254hc2w
(No word from Eurosky in the same thread.)
@stefan @uastronomer it seems like an awful lot of up front work and maintenance to stay "independent".
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@stefan Just imagine if every Fedi admin in Europe would start spamming the media with “we’re building a European alternative to X”.
It would be silly, but still more true than these clowns.
@slothrop Ha, maybe they should, though!
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@stefan @uastronomer it seems like an awful lot of up front work and maintenance to stay "independent".
@jcrabapple Yeah, I don't know how this is all going to look long-term, given how expensive it supposedly is to run the full infrastructure.
Blacksky has raised some money, but they currently have fewer users on their PDS than the Forkiverse server.
Northsky has much less than that.
Here, if you want to dig through the data: https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/data/
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@slothrop Ha, maybe they should, though!
@stefan right?
RIGHT??!
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@slothrop Ha, maybe they should, though!
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Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.
"European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."
@stefan If you read carefully, the article provides hints on why they do want to create another one:
„The initiative to create the social media platform W is supported by an advisory board and former ministers and business representatives, primarily from Sweden.“
In other words: There‘s no big money to be made w/ Mastodon and there’s no place for „former ministers“ and others to use it to look „important“ in any way either.
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Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.
"European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."
Love the reverse alphabetical naming convention and how it implies that they're planning to make as many as 22 more of these after this one.
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Love the reverse alphabetical naming convention and how it implies that they're planning to make as many as 22 more of these after this one.
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@the Ah, let's hope not!
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Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.
"European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."
@stefan
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@stefan I aplaud the effort. I think the world might be different today if social media had begun with a requirement for positive ID, instead of being able to hide behind a pseudonym.
This is what happens when you upset the authorities in the "democratic EU" - in France the land of Liberty and Fraternity (LOL)
France: Palestine solidarity activist sentenced to prison over social media posts
