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  3. Spending my evening in the traditional way: reading through a 42 page long thread in an extremely Web 1.0 forum of people arguing which cut of STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE is the correct one

Spending my evening in the traditional way: reading through a 42 page long thread in an extremely Web 1.0 forum of people arguing which cut of STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE is the correct one

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  • liferstateL liferstate

    @jalefkowit How many cuts *are* there?

    Jason LefkowitzJ This user is from outside of this forum
    Jason LefkowitzJ This user is from outside of this forum
    Jason Lefkowitz
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    @liferstate There’s the original 1979 theatrical cut, a 1983 “Special Longer Version” cut for TV, and a 2001 director’s cut, all of which exist in their original forms and in new 4K restorations

    https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/comparing-the-three-versions-of-star-trek-the-motion-picture/

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    • Jason LefkowitzJ Jason Lefkowitz

      Spending my evening in the traditional way: reading through a 42 page long thread in an extremely Web 1.0 forum of people arguing which cut of STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE is the correct one

      Michael StancliftV This user is from outside of this forum
      Michael StancliftV This user is from outside of this forum
      Michael Stanclift
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      #5

      @jalefkowit

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      • Jason LefkowitzJ Jason Lefkowitz

        Spending my evening in the traditional way: reading through a 42 page long thread in an extremely Web 1.0 forum of people arguing which cut of STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE is the correct one

        Joel VanderWerfJ This user is from outside of this forum
        Joel VanderWerfJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        @jalefkowit V'Ger shot first.

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        • Jason LefkowitzJ Jason Lefkowitz

          @liferstate There’s the original 1979 theatrical cut, a 1983 “Special Longer Version” cut for TV, and a 2001 director’s cut, all of which exist in their original forms and in new 4K restorations

          https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/comparing-the-three-versions-of-star-trek-the-motion-picture/

          liferstateL This user is from outside of this forum
          liferstateL This user is from outside of this forum
          liferstate
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          @jalefkowit Somewhere in the world there's gotta be someone who owns Star Trek: The Motion Picture on laserdisc. I'm certain they have something valuable to contribute to this discussion even if I don't know what it is.

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          • Jason LefkowitzJ Jason Lefkowitz

            Spending my evening in the traditional way: reading through a 42 page long thread in an extremely Web 1.0 forum of people arguing which cut of STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE is the correct one

            Jason LefkowitzJ This user is from outside of this forum
            Jason LefkowitzJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            A couple people have asked how many cuts of STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE there could possibly be, to which the answer is: too many

            https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/comparing-the-three-versions-of-star-trek-the-motion-picture/

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            • Jason LefkowitzJ Jason Lefkowitz

              A couple people have asked how many cuts of STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE there could possibly be, to which the answer is: too many

              https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/comparing-the-three-versions-of-star-trek-the-motion-picture/

              Drew MochakP This user is from outside of this forum
              Drew MochakP This user is from outside of this forum
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              @jalefkowit Whyyy? That's not even the good one.

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              • Jason LefkowitzJ Jason Lefkowitz

                A couple people have asked how many cuts of STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE there could possibly be, to which the answer is: too many

                https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/comparing-the-three-versions-of-star-trek-the-motion-picture/

                Jason LefkowitzJ This user is from outside of this forum
                Jason LefkowitzJ This user is from outside of this forum
                Jason Lefkowitz
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                #10

                If for some reason you want to immerse yourself in the actual thread, here you go. By page 2 people are calling each other liars. Bon appétit

                https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=341664

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                • Jason LefkowitzJ Jason Lefkowitz

                  A couple people have asked how many cuts of STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE there could possibly be, to which the answer is: too many

                  https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/comparing-the-three-versions-of-star-trek-the-motion-picture/

                  Scott FrancisD This user is from outside of this forum
                  Scott FrancisD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @jalefkowit and every single one is 92% “traveling through CGI VGER clouds” by volume

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                  • Drew MochakP Drew Mochak

                    @jalefkowit Whyyy? That's not even the good one.

                    AN/CRM-114F This user is from outside of this forum
                    AN/CRM-114F This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @prism @jalefkowit used to be that you could count on even numbered Windows versions and even numbered Star Trek movies

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                    • Jason LefkowitzJ Jason Lefkowitz

                      Spending my evening in the traditional way: reading through a 42 page long thread in an extremely Web 1.0 forum of people arguing which cut of STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE is the correct one

                      Hoarse e-Books2 This user is from outside of this forum
                      Hoarse e-Books2 This user is from outside of this forum
                      Hoarse e-Books
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                      #13

                      @jalefkowit ALL OF ‘EM, KATIE!

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                      • Jason LefkowitzJ Jason Lefkowitz

                        Spending my evening in the traditional way: reading through a 42 page long thread in an extremely Web 1.0 forum of people arguing which cut of STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE is the correct one

                        Hank G ☑️H This user is from outside of this forum
                        Hank G ☑️H This user is from outside of this forum
                        Hank G ☑️
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                        @jalefkowit Ironically I just saw this deleted scene for the first time tonight :). youtube.com/watch?v=ud18K0GIYG…
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                        • Jason LefkowitzJ Jason Lefkowitz

                          If for some reason you want to immerse yourself in the actual thread, here you go. By page 2 people are calling each other liars. Bon appétit

                          https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=341664

                          sport of sacred spherical cowsB This user is from outside of this forum
                          sport of sacred spherical cowsB This user is from outside of this forum
                          sport of sacred spherical cows
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                          @jalefkowit

                          You are a cruel, cruel person, to foist this upon your followers.

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                          • Jason LefkowitzJ Jason Lefkowitz

                            If for some reason you want to immerse yourself in the actual thread, here you go. By page 2 people are calling each other liars. Bon appétit

                            https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=341664

                            Dan :volvo:D This user is from outside of this forum
                            Dan :volvo:D This user is from outside of this forum
                            Dan :volvo:
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                            @jalefkowit I mean now that you’ve done the research it’s just rude not to reveal what the correct cut is.

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                            • Drew MochakP Drew Mochak

                              @jalefkowit Whyyy? That's not even the good one.

                              NickL This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @prism @jalefkowit Except it is the good one.

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                              • AN/CRM-114F AN/CRM-114

                                @prism @jalefkowit used to be that you could count on even numbered Windows versions and even numbered Star Trek movies

                                Drew MochakP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @flyingsaceur @jalefkowit IMHO 2 and 6 were the best ones. I have a lot of respect for Nicolas Meyer, both for esentially bringing ST back from the dead after the first movie bombed, getting William Shatner to actually act, and for committing to the bit when <spoiler> and refusing to work on the third movie.

                                I also feel like his portrayal of the federation in an unappologetically neoconservative way felt a lot more realistic than TOS "we're exploring the galaxy to meet interesting people!" vibe which always felt disengenuous to me. And he was willing to lock horns with Roddenberry, who was wrong about a great many things. The guy had a vision and stuck to it. The rest kinda feel like the lunatics are running the assylum (generations aside which is also quite good)

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                                • Jason LefkowitzJ Jason Lefkowitz

                                  Spending my evening in the traditional way: reading through a 42 page long thread in an extremely Web 1.0 forum of people arguing which cut of STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE is the correct one

                                  NickL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @jalefkowit The correct answer is The Director's Edition. It's the only one actually finished.

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                                  • Drew MochakP Drew Mochak

                                    @flyingsaceur @jalefkowit IMHO 2 and 6 were the best ones. I have a lot of respect for Nicolas Meyer, both for esentially bringing ST back from the dead after the first movie bombed, getting William Shatner to actually act, and for committing to the bit when <spoiler> and refusing to work on the third movie.

                                    I also feel like his portrayal of the federation in an unappologetically neoconservative way felt a lot more realistic than TOS "we're exploring the galaxy to meet interesting people!" vibe which always felt disengenuous to me. And he was willing to lock horns with Roddenberry, who was wrong about a great many things. The guy had a vision and stuck to it. The rest kinda feel like the lunatics are running the assylum (generations aside which is also quite good)

                                    AN/CRM-114F This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @prism @jalefkowit The Wrath of Khan was unique in that it could stand on its own as a movie in a timeline where nothing else
                                    Star Trek existed. 6 was taut and felt like a bridge from TOS into TNG with a much lighter touch than Generations

                                    Plus I’m a sucker for turtlenecks and tunics

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                                    • NickL Nick

                                      @prism @jalefkowit Except it is the good one.

                                      Drew MochakP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @linuxfiend @jalefkowit Sure, the twenty five minutes of flying through the ship's vagina was some of the most amazing cinima I've never seen (because I am blind)

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                                      • Jason LefkowitzJ Jason Lefkowitz

                                        A couple people have asked how many cuts of STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE there could possibly be, to which the answer is: too many

                                        https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/comparing-the-three-versions-of-star-trek-the-motion-picture/

                                        AN/CRM-114F This user is from outside of this forum
                                        AN/CRM-114F This user is from outside of this forum
                                        AN/CRM-114
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                                        @jalefkowit I remember that movie as “hey there’s that cool thing from Mr. Scott’s Guide to the Enterprise”

                                        https://archive.org/details/mrscottsguidetoe0000shan

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                                        • Dan :volvo:D Dan :volvo:

                                          @jalefkowit I mean now that you’ve done the research it’s just rude not to reveal what the correct cut is.

                                          CromleyV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @dan @jalefkowit I hosted the premiere in Richmond, Va, and I'm just gonna say: the shortest please

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