IRC is bad, and the reason every time a new chat service collapses people seem to go "literally everywhere except IRC" is that "literally anything except IRC" is what people want
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IRC is bad, and the reason every time a new chat service collapses people seem to go "literally everywhere except IRC" is that "literally anything except IRC" is what people want
@mcc I mean...I've recently gone back to IRC, lol
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@vampiress You know what I like, is being able to close my laptop lid without leaving the conversation
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"Just set up a bounce server" If I'm going to the bother how about I set up a fucking Conduwuit instance
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"Just set up a bounce server" If I'm going to the bother how about I set up a fucking Conduwuit instance
@mcc until they shut off the bridge, matrix.org was the best IRC bouncer I'd ever used
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IRC is bad, and the reason every time a new chat service collapses people seem to go "literally everywhere except IRC" is that "literally anything except IRC" is what people want
@mcc Discord/Slack/etc proves that people want IRC, but only if there's a lot of other stuff bolted on to make it pop.
Plain-IRC is a milkshake which will bring precisely zero boys to the yard in this, the Year of our Glorb Twenty Twenty Whatever.
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IRC is bad, and the reason every time a new chat service collapses people seem to go "literally everywhere except IRC" is that "literally anything except IRC" is what people want
@mcc Thank you for saying this.
People complain about various aspects of, say, the usability gap between Mastodon / The Fediverse and what Twitter used to be, and they raise a variety of good points, but on every one of those axes the gap between Discord/Slack and IRC absolutely dwarfs them.
I get that it's beloved of a vocal minority, but they are largely people whose lives have literally grown around IRC! Ivy asking sun-starved ground-cover to just climb a tree already.
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IRC is bad, and the reason every time a new chat service collapses people seem to go "literally everywhere except IRC" is that "literally anything except IRC" is what people want
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@radgeRayden all of the "common" alternatives are protocol based too (matrix, xmpp). My impression is that it's mostly nostalgia. @mcc
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@vampiress You know what I like, is being able to close my laptop lid without leaving the conversation
@mcc @vampiress who the heck had a laptop in 1998?
(I know they technically existed long before but I’m pretty sure they were only for rich ̶w̶a̶n̶k̶e̶r̶s̶ ̶ business people back then)
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IRC is bad, and the reason every time a new chat service collapses people seem to go "literally everywhere except IRC" is that "literally anything except IRC" is what people want
@mcc
I think IRC is good for a very specific style of ephemeral communication, but certainly not as a Discord replacement: that's closer to a web forum (although not as good as a web forum a lot of the time for text communication) combined with a videoconferencing utility... -
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IRC is bad, and the reason every time a new chat service collapses people seem to go "literally everywhere except IRC" is that "literally anything except IRC" is what people want
@mcc @mayintoronto All systems are great until you add people.
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IRC is bad, and the reason every time a new chat service collapses people seem to go "literally everywhere except IRC" is that "literally anything except IRC" is what people want
@mcc so mean...
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IRC is bad, and the reason every time a new chat service collapses people seem to go "literally everywhere except IRC" is that "literally anything except IRC" is what people want
@mcc IRC feels like it was great when people had only fixed devices. but uh...... no push notifs, no file upload support integrated, no integrated media, no reacts....
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@vampiress You know what I like, is being able to close my laptop lid without leaving the conversation
@vampiress @mcc Quassel lets you do this, but you're still in the "host this thing on a VPS and do recreational sysadmin" territory to make it work. It's not quite BNC/ZNC levels of bad, unless you consider Qt usage cruel and unusual punishment (I personally don't, but I don't think those who do are being unfair).
There's also irccloud and such but that still only fixes one complaint among a litany of them.
IRC was cool. There's a reason most folks left it.
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IRC is bad, and the reason every time a new chat service collapses people seem to go "literally everywhere except IRC" is that "literally anything except IRC" is what people want
I don't know, I really miss IRC. I would go back to it in a heartbeat.
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@mcc IRC feels like it was great when people had only fixed devices. but uh...... no push notifs, no file upload support integrated, no integrated media, no reacts....
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"Just set up a bounce server" If I'm going to the bother how about I set up a fucking Conduwuit instance
@mcc oh why
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@EndlessMason @mcc I'll take precisely zero lol. I like push, it's great when you're blind, so you know you've got messages when you're in another window
