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IRC is bad, and the reason every time a new chat service collapses people seem to go "literally everywhere except IRC" is that "literally anything except IRC" is what people want

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  • mccM This user is from outside of this forum
    mccM This user is from outside of this forum
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    IRC is bad, and the reason every time a new chat service collapses people seem to go "literally everywhere except IRC" is that "literally anything except IRC" is what people want

    mccM ɩɐɥɔɐɿɐɯM Karel P KerezmanG Klara in the hidden landK GlyphG 12 Replies Last reply
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    • mccM mcc

      IRC is bad, and the reason every time a new chat service collapses people seem to go "literally everywhere except IRC" is that "literally anything except IRC" is what people want

      mccM This user is from outside of this forum
      mccM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      It's a great product fit for 1998 but it is not 1998

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      • mccM mcc

        IRC is bad, and the reason every time a new chat service collapses people seem to go "literally everywhere except IRC" is that "literally anything except IRC" is what people want

        ɩɐɥɔɐɿɐɯM This user is from outside of this forum
        ɩɐɥɔɐɿɐɯM This user is from outside of this forum
        ɩɐɥɔɐɿɐɯ
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        #3

        @mcc I mean...I've recently gone back to IRC, lol

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        • mccM This user is from outside of this forum
          mccM This user is from outside of this forum
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          @vampiress You know what I like, is being able to close my laptop lid without leaving the conversation

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          • mccM mcc

            It's a great product fit for 1998 but it is not 1998

            mccM This user is from outside of this forum
            mccM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            "Just set up a bounce server" If I'm going to the bother how about I set up a fucking Conduwuit instance

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            • mccM mcc

              "Just set up a bounce server" If I'm going to the bother how about I set up a fucking Conduwuit instance

              Sten TurpinT This user is from outside of this forum
              Sten TurpinT This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @mcc until they shut off the bridge, matrix.org was the best IRC bouncer I'd ever used

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              • mccM mcc

                IRC is bad, and the reason every time a new chat service collapses people seem to go "literally everywhere except IRC" is that "literally anything except IRC" is what people want

                Karel P KerezmanG This user is from outside of this forum
                Karel P KerezmanG This user is from outside of this forum
                Karel P Kerezman
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                #7

                @mcc Discord/Slack/etc proves that people want IRC, but only if there's a lot of other stuff bolted on to make it pop.

                Plain-IRC is a milkshake which will bring precisely zero boys to the yard in this, the Year of our Glorb Twenty Twenty Whatever.

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                • mccM mcc

                  IRC is bad, and the reason every time a new chat service collapses people seem to go "literally everywhere except IRC" is that "literally anything except IRC" is what people want

                  Klara in the hidden landK This user is from outside of this forum
                  Klara in the hidden landK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @mcc Thank you for saying this.

                  People complain about various aspects of, say, the usability gap between Mastodon / The Fediverse and what Twitter used to be, and they raise a variety of good points, but on every one of those axes the gap between Discord/Slack and IRC absolutely dwarfs them.

                  I get that it's beloved of a vocal minority, but they are largely people whose lives have literally grown around IRC! Ivy asking sun-starved ground-cover to just climb a tree already.

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                  • mccM mcc

                    IRC is bad, and the reason every time a new chat service collapses people seem to go "literally everywhere except IRC" is that "literally anything except IRC" is what people want

                    GlyphG This user is from outside of this forum
                    GlyphG This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @mcc as a long-time IRC user I endorse this take

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                    • Buster | FelipeP This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @radgeRayden all of the "common" alternatives are protocol based too (matrix, xmpp). My impression is that it's mostly nostalgia. @mcc

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                      • mccM mcc

                        @vampiress You know what I like, is being able to close my laptop lid without leaving the conversation

                        itgrrl :donor:I This user is from outside of this forum
                        itgrrl :donor:I This user is from outside of this forum
                        itgrrl :donor:
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                        @mcc @vampiress who the heck had a laptop in 1998? 🤔

                        (I know they technically existed long before but I’m pretty sure they were only for rich ̶w̶a̶n̶k̶e̶r̶s̶ ̶ business people back then)

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                        • mccM mcc

                          IRC is bad, and the reason every time a new chat service collapses people seem to go "literally everywhere except IRC" is that "literally anything except IRC" is what people want

                          DHeadshot's AltD This user is from outside of this forum
                          DHeadshot's AltD This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @mcc
                          I think IRC is good for a very specific style of ephemeral communication, but certainly not as a Discord replacement: that's closer to a web forum (although not as good as a web forum a lot of the time for text communication) combined with a videoconferencing utility...

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                          • GlyphG Glyph

                            @mcc as a long-time IRC user I endorse this take

                            wuestW This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @mcc @glyph yup

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                            • Pete / SyllopsiumS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @aeva @mcc Yep. I spent many happy hours on IRC, but the main reason I stayed on Undernet (iirc) was because netsplits weren't as bad. Plus you needed a decent client. File transfer was awful. Definitely wasn't completely user friendly even with a good client.

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                              • mccM mcc

                                IRC is bad, and the reason every time a new chat service collapses people seem to go "literally everywhere except IRC" is that "literally anything except IRC" is what people want

                                FeloniousPunkF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #15

                                @mcc @mayintoronto All systems are great until you add people.

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                                • mccM mcc

                                  IRC is bad, and the reason every time a new chat service collapses people seem to go "literally everywhere except IRC" is that "literally anything except IRC" is what people want

                                  Cat 🐈🥗 (D.Burch) :paw:⁠:paw:C This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @mcc so mean... 😭

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                                  • mccM mcc

                                    IRC is bad, and the reason every time a new chat service collapses people seem to go "literally everywhere except IRC" is that "literally anything except IRC" is what people want

                                    Ra (Freya) (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩F This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Ra (Freya) (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩
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                                    @mcc IRC feels like it was great when people had only fixed devices. but uh...... no push notifs, no file upload support integrated, no integrated media, no reacts....

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                                      @vampiress You know what I like, is being able to close my laptop lid without leaving the conversation

                                      fraggLe!F This user is from outside of this forum
                                      fraggLe!F This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #18

                                      @vampiress @mcc Quassel lets you do this, but you're still in the "host this thing on a VPS and do recreational sysadmin" territory to make it work. It's not quite BNC/ZNC levels of bad, unless you consider Qt usage cruel and unusual punishment (I personally don't, but I don't think those who do are being unfair).

                                      There's also irccloud and such but that still only fixes one complaint among a litany of them.

                                      IRC was cool. There's a reason most folks left it.

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                                      • mccM mcc

                                        IRC is bad, and the reason every time a new chat service collapses people seem to go "literally everywhere except IRC" is that "literally anything except IRC" is what people want

                                        moggieE This user is from outside of this forum
                                        moggieE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        I don't know, I really miss IRC. I would go back to it in a heartbeat.

                                        @mcc

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                                        • Ra (Freya) (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩F Ra (Freya) (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩

                                          @mcc IRC feels like it was great when people had only fixed devices. but uh...... no push notifs, no file upload support integrated, no integrated media, no reacts....

                                          EndlessMasonE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @freya @mcc
                                          No push and no reacts? You mean I don't have to unlock my phone to see that somebody sent the 19th eggplant emoji in response to a question that wasn't about groceries? I'll take two please!

                                          Ra (Freya) (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩F 1 Reply Last reply
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