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  • Aleksandr KoltsoffN Aleksandr Koltsoff

    @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog The purpose of a system is what it does. IMO these are not accidents.

    draeathD This user is from outside of this forum
    draeathD This user is from outside of this forum
    draeath
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    #31

    @nihkeys @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog I don't think that phrase allows for incompetency in design. The purpose is what was intended, not what actually results. There is a distinction.

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    • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

      Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

      I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

      So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

      https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

      As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

      Daniel LakelandD This user is from outside of this forum
      Daniel LakelandD This user is from outside of this forum
      Daniel Lakeland
      wrote last edited by
      #32

      @GossiTheDog
      The real question is why does a bot have commit privileges on a "major web framework"?

      i mean the answer is probably because google owns the repo probably... but why?

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      • Sebastian BergmannS Sebastian Bergmann

        @GossiTheDog It is interesting that these changes are attributed to a "user named Claude" and not to the "human using the agent named Claude". This is how diffusion of responsibility works, I guess.

        draeathD This user is from outside of this forum
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        draeath
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        #33

        @s_bergmann @GossiTheDog I like how AIDER uses co-authors, so you can't escape from blame. All these tools should be doing similar!

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        • Aleksandr KoltsoffN Aleksandr Koltsoff

          @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog The purpose of a system is what it does. IMO these are not accidents.

          Violet MadderV This user is from outside of this forum
          Violet MadderV This user is from outside of this forum
          Violet Madder
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          #34

          @nihkeys @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog

          The damage is the point.

          It's a weapon.

          Not sure I'd call it a "targeted" attack, when the goal is to flood absolutely EVERYTHING with shit everywhere.

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          • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

            Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

            I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

            So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

            https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

            As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

            Alun JonesF This user is from outside of this forum
            Alun JonesF This user is from outside of this forum
            Alun Jones
            wrote last edited by
            #35

            @GossiTheDog fault injection into production code at scale. Nice.

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            • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

              Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

              I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

              So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

              https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

              As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

              spinnyspinlockS This user is from outside of this forum
              spinnyspinlockS This user is from outside of this forum
              spinnyspinlock
              wrote last edited by
              #36

              @GossiTheDog I became used to checking projects I am checking out for claude (etc) in the source files and commits really fast

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              • The Penguin of EvilE The Penguin of Evil

                @GossiTheDog So you are saying there is a business opportunity following claude around projects with bug bounties 😎

                Petr TesaříkP This user is from outside of this forum
                Petr TesaříkP This user is from outside of this forum
                Petr Tesařík
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                #37

                @etchedpixels Bug bounties? You know nothing about business…
                You set up a giant scam tool, let venture capital pay for its development, then use it to hack the world and sell all of it:

                • license the tool,
                • hacked applications,
                • vulnerability scanning,
                • protection racket from affected companies.

                That' how real capitalists do business.
                @GossiTheDog

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                • The Penguin of EvilE The Penguin of Evil

                  @GossiTheDog So you are saying there is a business opportunity following claude around projects with bug bounties 😎

                  John LuskT This user is from outside of this forum
                  John LuskT This user is from outside of this forum
                  John Lusk
                  wrote last edited by
                  #38

                  @etchedpixels @GossiTheDog

                  Gahhh. Takes a little effort to imagine LESS rewarding work.

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                  • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                    Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                    I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                    So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                    https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                    As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                    Keith LawsonK This user is from outside of this forum
                    Keith LawsonK This user is from outside of this forum
                    Keith Lawson
                    wrote last edited by
                    #39

                    @GossiTheDog This was literally the first major security mistake I made in my early days as a Perl developer and I don't imagine it's that uncommon. Claude has probably been trained with a truckload of code with these vulnerabilities.

                    That's okay because we run everything in single-purpose Docker containers now though, right? /s

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                    • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                      Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                      I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                      So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                      https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                      As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                      RachelR This user is from outside of this forum
                      RachelR This user is from outside of this forum
                      Rachel
                      wrote last edited by
                      #40

                      @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social I wonder across the industry how common is it for orgs to skip static code analysis, or other code vulnerability scans as part of their pipelines? Even then how many of those scans are actually effective?

                      Looks like AI is potentially an insider threat, and code generated by it has to be treated accordingly, even in the case of it being generated by project members and "reviewed"

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                      • da_667D da_667

                        @GossiTheDog

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                        Bradley
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                        @da_667 @GossiTheDog

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                        • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                          Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                          I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                          So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                          https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                          As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                          spinnyspinlockS This user is from outside of this forum
                          spinnyspinlockS This user is from outside of this forum
                          spinnyspinlock
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                          #42

                          @GossiTheDog I see it, could probably start a threat intelligence business off the claude feed 🙂‍↕️

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                          • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                            Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                            I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                            So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                            https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                            As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                            Eric LiknessC This user is from outside of this forum
                            Eric LiknessC This user is from outside of this forum
                            Eric Likness
                            wrote last edited by
                            #43

                            @GossiTheDog

                            That Claude is a "clod", and boy does Claude get around I tell ya'. 🏃

                            Claude is everywhere you want an exploit to be. 🚨

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                            • draeathD draeath

                              @badsamurai @da_667 @GossiTheDog I've seen setups that run tests and such all in a closed loop, I suppose if one really wanted to "use" this shit, they could implement that sort of thing too.

                              It'll cause a shedload more token use (and electrical waste) but might mitigate some of the idiocy.

                              fuzzyfuzzyfungusF This user is from outside of this forum
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                              fuzzyfuzzyfungus
                              wrote last edited by
                              #44

                              @draeath @badsamurai @da_667 @GossiTheDog That's what amazes me about the "hallucinated citations" stories. Making bots not hallucinate is certainly not readily feasible, quite possible infeasible in practice; but just checking citations one at a time for existence would have been cutting edge in maybe the 1960s. Why is anyone skipping such trivial cleanup steps when using a known-unreliable tool?

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                              • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                                Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                                I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                                So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                                https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                                As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                                C This user is from outside of this forum
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                                claudex
                                wrote last edited by
                                #45

                                @GossiTheDog in a few months, the user creation and password management will be a solved problem, every software will have a semi-public backdoor that everybody will use

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                                • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                                  Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                                  I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                                  So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                                  https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                                  As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                                  kpcyrd 🏴K This user is from outside of this forum
                                  kpcyrd 🏴K This user is from outside of this forum
                                  kpcyrd 🏴
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                                  @GossiTheDog what was the vulnerability you found in those search results over and over? I only get html and css stuff when I click that link.

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                                  • draeathD draeath

                                    @badsamurai @da_667 @GossiTheDog I've seen setups that run tests and such all in a closed loop, I suppose if one really wanted to "use" this shit, they could implement that sort of thing too.

                                    It'll cause a shedload more token use (and electrical waste) but might mitigate some of the idiocy.

                                    B'ad Samurai 🐐🇺🇦B This user is from outside of this forum
                                    B'ad Samurai 🐐🇺🇦B This user is from outside of this forum
                                    B'ad Samurai 🐐🇺🇦
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #47

                                    @draeath

                                    These MFers yeet DIRFT (Do it right the first time) and TQM principles to play hooky on the plinko and demand you call them a genius.

                                    @da_667 @GossiTheDog

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                                    • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                                      Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                                      I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                                      So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                                      https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                                      As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                                      AnthonyA This user is from outside of this forum
                                      AnthonyA This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Anthony
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #48
                                      @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social An instance of eating the seed corn, I'd say ( https://buc.ci/abucci/p/1705679109.757852 ).
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                                      • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                                        Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                                        I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                                        So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                                        https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                                        As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                                        Klaus FrankA This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Klaus FrankA This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Klaus Frank
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #49

                                        @GossiTheDog can you please post this also over on LinkedIn for all of the corporate people and CEOs to see?

                                        We can't highlight how much of a liability generator all of this is...

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                                        • B'ad Samurai 🐐🇺🇦B B'ad Samurai 🐐🇺🇦

                                          @da_667 I demoed that very thing recently. Prompted up a form page and visually I could see a handful of basic JavaScript issues.

                                          Ask Claude to review the code it generated for vulns using OWASP Top 10. And it finds them.

                                          That’s just bonkers. Sure, a lazy initial prompt so it’s all my fault, really.

                                          @GossiTheDog

                                          Ron BowesI This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Ron BowesI This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Ron Bowes
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #50

                                          @badsamurai @da_667 @GossiTheDog Hey, as somebody writing a CTF, it's handy to get randomly introduced vulnerabilities!

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