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putting the home backup battery to use (power out)!

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  • Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱S Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱

    @gatesvp in general, I think Canada is very far ahead on the US, but there will always be hiccups on the way to a better future. I have tolerance for that! (I also think depending on hydro in a warming world has a lot of updates in thinking that need to be done)

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    @susankayequinn and actually, that's already a reality they've been facing. They have had some years where they inputted hydrocarbons from elsewhere because the snowpack was simply too low.

    And if you follow through some of the documents, you also getting things like a solar association specifically asking for support. BC has a ton of islands and remote communities.

    In a lot of those places, the best way to deliver resilience is to provide local generation and storage. I think it's part of why this 20-year plan is a big deal. Because it's not an easy plan to make, and it definitely involves a hydro company moving outside of their specific expertise.

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    • Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱S Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱

      @wellschmaltz

      Ioniq6 car is best car! LOL

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      @susankayequinn I wish there were more of us because it's looking like Hyundai won't be selling more in the US except the N version...

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      • Leschmaltz :cascadia:πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆW Leschmaltz :cascadia:πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ

        @susankayequinn I wish there were more of us because it's looking like Hyundai won't be selling more in the US except the N version...

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        #56

        @wellschmaltz 😭

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        • Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱S Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱

          @wellschmaltz 😭

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          @susankayequinn If it's not another crossover SUV or pickup, Americans don't seem to care

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          • Leschmaltz :cascadia:πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆW Leschmaltz :cascadia:πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ

            @susankayequinn If it's not another crossover SUV or pickup, Americans don't seem to care

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            #58

            @wellschmaltz IDK I think there are plenty of us who want the smaller cars but the automakers refuse to make them

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            • Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱S Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱

              @wellschmaltz IDK I think there are plenty of us who want the smaller cars but the automakers refuse to make them

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              @susankayequinn I like to think so. The profit margin on small cars isn't as good,, though, and the relentless advertising and the (not entirely illegitimate) fear of what happens when your small car gets hit by a Dodge Ram have conspired to make car bloat epidemic.

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              • Leschmaltz :cascadia:πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆW Leschmaltz :cascadia:πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ

                @susankayequinn I like to think so. The profit margin on small cars isn't as good,, though, and the relentless advertising and the (not entirely illegitimate) fear of what happens when your small car gets hit by a Dodge Ram have conspired to make car bloat epidemic.

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                @wellschmaltz I feel like the entire trend is driven by automaker profit motive (and the unwillingness of the government to put sufficient regulations on that)

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                • Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱S Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱

                  @wellschmaltz I feel like the entire trend is driven by automaker profit motive (and the unwillingness of the government to put sufficient regulations on that)

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                  @susankayequinn And entrenched by the tariff barriers that are currently keeping out competition from the likes of BYD that could be disciplining our automakers with diverse, affordable electric vehicles. BTW, do check out the recent "Life After Cars: Freeing Ourselves from the Tyranny of the Automobile" if you haven't. https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/757609/life-after-cars-by-sarah-goodyear-doug-gordon-and-aaron-naparstek/

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                  • Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱S Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱

                    "If you want a sense of how close we’re dancing to the brink, check out this new study from some of the heavy hitters in climate research, documenting the approach (or in too many cases the passing) of various tipping points in the earth’s climate system."
                    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/feb/11/point-of-no-return-hothouse-earth-global-heating-climate-tipping-points

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                    @susankayequinn Billionaires could help since they are much of the problem. They wont. Smart people could help, too much invested in making more data centers for their #AI slop no one wants but them, they wont. People in power in the US to invested in being stupid calling everything a hoax because its easier than trying to fix it.

                    We are truly screwed.

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                    • Crystal_Fish_CavesC Crystal_Fish_Caves

                      @susankayequinn Billionaires could help since they are much of the problem. They wont. Smart people could help, too much invested in making more data centers for their #AI slop no one wants but them, they wont. People in power in the US to invested in being stupid calling everything a hoax because its easier than trying to fix it.

                      We are truly screwed.

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                      @Crystal_Fish_Caves we are being oppressed and we will have to work together for change. Seems impossible but it's absolutely not β€” in fact, it is already happening. Data centers are being fought, ICE is being fought, billionaires have never been more hated.

                      Keep going

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                      • Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱S Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱

                        "The impact of this new warming surge will be especially profound because this El NiΓ±o will probably provide the final proof that global warming is actually accelerating sickeningly from its previously merely alarming pace."

                        https://jimehansen.substack.com/p/another-el-nino-already-what-can

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                        @susankayequinn Hansen has entered his 0 f#cks phase of life I see.

                        "Zeke Hausfather, not one to be outshone and doubtless sensing that he may have overlooked something, jumped in the saddle and added his own projection[18] for 2027 (Fig. 8). His error bar is so large as to make his prediction useless for any purpose other than covering one’s posterior, for which it seems to be big enough for anybody, even Cal Raleigh.[19]"

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                        • Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱S Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱

                          at some point, we will decide to stop pushing the "kill everything" button

                          people will come to understand we can stop the slow violence of capitalism

                          and that life will be a lot better, even as the climate disasters that are the legacy of capitalism continue on (in fact, surviving those disasters will be more likely in a world where capitalism and necropoliticians aren't killing everyone)

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                          @susankayequinn or we will panic and try highly speculative and risky geoengineering schemes.

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                          • DemianD Demian

                            @susankayequinn for sure they’re needed to the extent people need cars. But cities can (and some are) making it much easier to do without (or with fewer). A growing number in Seattle are. And I hear e-bikes are having a bigger impact than EVs. Again, not disputing that switch to EVs is not important.
                            https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/11/280-million-e-bikes-are-slashing-oil-demand-far-more-than-electric-vehicles/

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                            @dgodon This explains all the recent anti-e-bike/anti-bike legislation that’s being passed/proposed. Oil companies trying to protect their revenue stream. @susankayequinn
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                              @susankayequinn or we will panic and try highly speculative and risky geoengineering schemes.

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                              @BenjaminKlein almost guaranteed someone will try it, heaven help us all (I'm wildly against all forms of geoengineering and I say this as a person in possession of a PhD in aerosol science)

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                              • Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱S Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱

                                "The impact of this new warming surge will be especially profound because this El NiΓ±o will probably provide the final proof that global warming is actually accelerating sickeningly from its previously merely alarming pace."

                                https://jimehansen.substack.com/p/another-el-nino-already-what-can

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                                This El Nino explainer really helps visualize how world weather systems are connected...much like the recent cold snap wasn't simply "extra cold air" it was the polar vortex destabilized by warming at the poles & traveling to the Midwestern US.

                                This is #climatechange

                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPA-KpldDVc

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                                  @Dianora excellent!

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                                  • Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱S Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱

                                    @kim_harding Not only does battery demand for EVs *not* work against people getting home batteries, they actually facilitate it:
                                    1 - economies of scale for EV batteries has already shown to help home and utility battery buildout
                                    2- EV batteries are outlasting the car bodies; there will be a lot of car batteries repurposed into home batteries when the car bodies are done
                                    3 - there's a lot of (not helpful) EV/car hate out there; there's no reason we can't do EVs *and* public transit

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                                    @susankayequinn @kim_harding In the fantasy that I have of building my own place on some land, there is actually a plan for having a small utility shed that's large enough for a used EV battery pack to store solar, plus a small generator that does co-generation -- using the electricity to charge the battery, plus extracts the heat to keep the batteries warm, as well as heating the house on the coldest of days.

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