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  3. I'm really feeling seriously depressed about the disaster in orbit today, I already had a couple of meetings and a flurry of emails about the fucking awful SpaceX million satellite filing.

I'm really feeling seriously depressed about the disaster in orbit today, I already had a couple of meetings and a flurry of emails about the fucking awful SpaceX million satellite filing.

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  • zompusZ zompus

    @sundogplanets It's bizarre to me to think that orbital data centers will be cheaper than ground-based ones, with having to power and cool them.

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    @zompus @sundogplanets They aren't. The physics of heat doesn't work out, nor is there much in the way of rad hard compute that you could put in orbit. Like much of what Musk talks about, the orbital data centers thing is bullshit, not a real thing.

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    • zompusZ zompus

      @sundogplanets It's bizarre to me to think that orbital data centers will be cheaper than ground-based ones, with having to power and cool them.

      Emma needs ☕️ and paying workE This user is from outside of this forum
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      @zompus @sundogplanets I think Elon tipped his hand when he said he wants a rail gun on the Moon to "launch data centers."

      This was never about data centers. It's about extortion.

      And between Trump, Cosplay Astronaut, and the Jesus Freak running DoD, they'll give it to him.

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      • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

        I'm really feeling seriously depressed about the disaster in orbit today, I already had a couple of meetings and a flurry of emails about the fucking awful SpaceX million satellite filing.

        It's Waitangi Day here, and I'm looking forward to learning a lot about Māori culture and seeing some geysers today. I'm going to try to lean in to the stunning natural beauty of the land I'm on today and the Indigenous knowledge that goes with it.

        Matt ChambersI This user is from outside of this forum
        Matt ChambersI This user is from outside of this forum
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        @sundogplanets hang in there. You're doing great work.

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        • Michael KohneM Michael Kohne

          @zompus @sundogplanets They aren't. The physics of heat doesn't work out, nor is there much in the way of rad hard compute that you could put in orbit. Like much of what Musk talks about, the orbital data centers thing is bullshit, not a real thing.

          zompusZ This user is from outside of this forum
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          @mhkohne @sundogplanets My work involves both solar panels and HVAC, and I'm imagining the cost of launching enough power generation and cooling to run even one server rack. It's a grift all the way down.

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          • zompusZ zompus

            @sundogplanets It's bizarre to me to think that orbital data centers will be cheaper than ground-based ones, with having to power and cool them.

            Dave RahardjaD This user is from outside of this forum
            Dave RahardjaD This user is from outside of this forum
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            @zompus @sundogplanets They won’t be. Elon is purposely conflating AI and space tech to suckle on the teat of taxpayer subsidies to keep running his abuse machine.

            https://sfba.social/@drahardja/116004691492642854

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            • Dave RahardjaD Dave Rahardja

              @zompus @sundogplanets They won’t be. Elon is purposely conflating AI and space tech to suckle on the teat of taxpayer subsidies to keep running his abuse machine.

              https://sfba.social/@drahardja/116004691492642854

              zompusZ This user is from outside of this forum
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              @drahardja @sundogplanets I know somebody who works at NASA, and they went on a long rant to me about how SpaceX people didn't know how to do any space operations, so they got free tours and consulting from NASA people, and then came back and took all their jobs.

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              • zompusZ zompus

                @drahardja @sundogplanets I know somebody who works at NASA, and they went on a long rant to me about how SpaceX people didn't know how to do any space operations, so they got free tours and consulting from NASA people, and then came back and took all their jobs.

                Dave RahardjaD This user is from outside of this forum
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                @zompus @sundogplanets The existence of SpaceX is a policy choice. And it’s a bad one.

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                • mkjM mkj

                  @WTL Did you find anything? Because I don't. I'm finding a Starlink on-orbit explosion in December and the Luch/Olymp breakup in graveyard orbit a week ago, but nothing today.

                  @sundogplanets a link or at least something specific would be very helpful! As bad as the SpaceX million satellites thing is, I fail to see how that is "today". Am I (and others, evidently) reading this too literally?

                  Barry RowlingsonG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @mkj @WTL @sundogplanets A Falcon 9 2nd stage failed its de-orbit burn so came back in uncontrolled. somewhere. https://www.theregister.com/2026/02/04/spacex_halts_falcon_9_flights/

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                  • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                    I'm really feeling seriously depressed about the disaster in orbit today, I already had a couple of meetings and a flurry of emails about the fucking awful SpaceX million satellite filing.

                    It's Waitangi Day here, and I'm looking forward to learning a lot about Māori culture and seeing some geysers today. I'm going to try to lean in to the stunning natural beauty of the land I'm on today and the Indigenous knowledge that goes with it.

                    Hank G ☑️H This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @sundogplanets While I've always been pissed about how cavalier Musk, Bezos, and others have been with the space junk problem they are creating with these mega constellations this push for *one million* satellites and data centers in space has me even more so. This week the analogy it had me thinking about was the industrial wastelands Robber Barons and industrialists of the first Gilded Age created. We look back and think, "How could they have done that and how could everyone have let that happen?" Meanwhile they are doing it again but up in space, and even down here with their unquenchable thirst for resources to feed their new AI machines. It's just so frustrating that humans can't learn from the past but must go through all the same mistakes over and over again.
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                    • zompusZ zompus

                      @mhkohne @sundogplanets My work involves both solar panels and HVAC, and I'm imagining the cost of launching enough power generation and cooling to run even one server rack. It's a grift all the way down.

                      SolithaS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @zompus @mhkohne SpaceX bought xAI and is going IPO this year.

                      Elon's spouting his typical empty promises to generate investor hype. It's pretty much all he's ever done.

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                      • Dave RahardjaD Dave Rahardja

                        @zompus @sundogplanets They won’t be. Elon is purposely conflating AI and space tech to suckle on the teat of taxpayer subsidies to keep running his abuse machine.

                        https://sfba.social/@drahardja/116004691492642854

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                        @drahardja @zompus @sundogplanets

                        Like The Moneyed of Eisenhower's era, Elon Musk, Peter Thiel & Larry Ellison know that vast wealth comes from attaching themselves to taxpayer-funded military contracts

                        It lets politicians reward their donors in secret

                        Pay-to-play for Silicon Valley moguls gearing up for world war

                        https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5612954-trump-f35-saudi-arabia-deal/

                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/05/13/trump-tech-execs-riyadh/

                        https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-f-35-sale-saudi-arabia-threatens-antagonize-israel-11063802

                        https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2025/11/19/heres-everyone-who-attended-trumps-black-tie-dinner-with-saudis-prime-minister-photos/

                        https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/13/us/politics/trump-saudi-fighter-jets.html

                        https://responsiblestatecraft.org/trump-saudi-deal/

                        https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/content-series/fastthinking/digging-into-the-details-of-the-us-saudi-deals/

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                        • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                          I'm really feeling seriously depressed about the disaster in orbit today, I already had a couple of meetings and a flurry of emails about the fucking awful SpaceX million satellite filing.

                          It's Waitangi Day here, and I'm looking forward to learning a lot about Māori culture and seeing some geysers today. I'm going to try to lean in to the stunning natural beauty of the land I'm on today and the Indigenous knowledge that goes with it.

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                          @sundogplanets Enjoy our downunder experience.

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                          • zompusZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @thedarknite @emma @sundogplanets Like the time Zuckerberg read Snow Crash and then threw his entire company behind "Metaverse"

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                            • zompusZ zompus

                              @sundogplanets It's bizarre to me to think that orbital data centers will be cheaper than ground-based ones, with having to power and cool them.

                              Ray McCarthyR This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @zompus @sundogplanets
                              The Solar electricity isn't that much better than many places on Earth, panels are cheap, launch expensive.

                              The Datacentres in space can't be cooled. No convection or water.

                              They can't be serviced.

                              Space electronics uses different chips to datacentres and they can't be shielded.

                              It's fantasy

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                              • zompusZ zompus

                                @mhkohne @sundogplanets My work involves both solar panels and HVAC, and I'm imagining the cost of launching enough power generation and cooling to run even one server rack. It's a grift all the way down.

                                SomeVeganCheeseIsOkS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @zompus @mhkohne @sundogplanets I mean. Basically that's what satellites already are. Lil special purpose compute systems run by solar panels in space. "Data centers in spaaaaaaace" is just generalizing the specific parts of it. And it's EPICLY stupid, those fuckers need to spin to dump waste heat. It would be cheaper to solve the vibration problem and stuff data centers under every Walmart parking lot.

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                                • SolithaS Solitha

                                  @zompus @mhkohne SpaceX bought xAI and is going IPO this year.

                                  Elon's spouting his typical empty promises to generate investor hype. It's pretty much all he's ever done.

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                                  @solitha @zompus @mhkohne Exactly. This is called "baffling with bullshit".

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                                  • NeilG Neil

                                    @solitha @zompus @mhkohne Exactly. This is called "baffling with bullshit".

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                                    @gneilyo @solitha @mhkohne I guess it's serving the purpose of living rent-free in my head. This is what transit people must have felt during the "hyperloop" boondoggle.

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                                    • Matt BlazeM Matt Blaze

                                      @sundogplanets "Move fast and break things" should not be literally applied to satellites.

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                                      @mattblaze @sundogplanets It should be our motto fighting against those corporations.

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                                      • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                                        I'm really feeling seriously depressed about the disaster in orbit today, I already had a couple of meetings and a flurry of emails about the fucking awful SpaceX million satellite filing.

                                        It's Waitangi Day here, and I'm looking forward to learning a lot about Māori culture and seeing some geysers today. I'm going to try to lean in to the stunning natural beauty of the land I'm on today and the Indigenous knowledge that goes with it.

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                                        @sundogplanets nature is on my shortlist of higher powers … immersing and even losing yourself within its beauty can be so therapeutic 🌲☀️❄️🐦‍⬛

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