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A few days ago, a client’s data center (well, actually a server room) "vanished" overnight.

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  • The Psychotic Network FerretN The Psychotic Network Ferret

    @stefano @Dianora The local backup is a remnant of the encrypted backup off network. If you can use it, it'll be faster. But you should assume you will never use it.

    Dianora (Diane Bruce)D This user is from outside of this forum
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    Dianora (Diane Bruce)
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    @nuintari @stefano Well, many people make the distinction between on-site backup and off-site archival. Having a local backup for those oops moments that you know about is very handy. Having an off site archive for those fires etc. is being safe. We furiously agree.

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    • niconiconiN This user is from outside of this forum
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      @ricardo@mastodon.bsd.cafe @stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe @mkj@social.mkj.earth No SPDs can protect you from intentional saboteurs (or faulty grid or wiring) that run hard (not momentary) 380 V into 230 V systems. Easily fry everything electrical in the building when it happens.

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      • Stefano MarinelliS Stefano Marinelli

        A few days ago, a client’s data center (well, actually a server room) "vanished" overnight. My monitoring showed that all devices were unreachable. Not even the ISP routers responded, so I assumed a sudden connectivity drop. The strange part? Not even via 4G.

        I then suspected a power failure, but the UPS should have sent an alert.

        The office was closed for the holidays, but I contacted the IT manager anyway. He was home sick with a serious family issue, but he got moving.

        To make a long story short: the company deals in gold and precious metals. They have an underground bunker with two-meter thick walls. They were targeted by a professional gang. They used a tactic seen in similar hits: they identify the main power line, tamper with it at night, and send a massive voltage spike through it.

        The goal is to fry all alarm and surveillance systems. Even if battery-backed, they rarely survive a surge like that. Thieves count on the fact that during holidays, owners are away and fried systems can't send alerts. Monitoring companies often have reduced staff and might not notice the "silence" immediately.

        That is exactly what happened here. But there is a "but": they didn't account for my Uptime Kuma instance monitoring their MikroTik router, installed just weeks ago. Since it is an external check, it flagged the lack of response from all IPs without needing an internal alert to be triggered from the inside.

        The team rushed to the site and found the mess. Luckily, they found an emergency electrical crew to bypass the damage and restore the cameras and alarms. They swapped the fried server UPS with a spare and everything came back up.

        The police warned that the chances of the crew returning the next night to "finish" the job were high, though seeing the systems back online would likely make them move on. They also warned that thieves sometimes break in just to destroy servers to wipe any video evidence.

        Nothing happened in the end. But in the meantime, I had to sync all their data off-site (thankfully they have dual 1Gbps FTTH), set up an emergency cluster, and ensure everything was redundant.

        Never rely only on internal monitoring. Never.

        #IT #SysAdmin #HorrorStories #ITHorrorStories #Monitoring

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        #124

        @stefano knowledge to take out a security system: aquired

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        • niconiconiN niconiconi

          @ricardo@mastodon.bsd.cafe @stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe @mkj@social.mkj.earth No SPDs can protect you from intentional saboteurs (or faulty grid or wiring) that run hard (not momentary) 380 V into 230 V systems. Easily fry everything electrical in the building when it happens.

          Ricardo Martín :bsdhead:R This user is from outside of this forum
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          Ricardo Martín :bsdhead:
          wrote last edited by
          #125

          @niconiconi If my memory serves me well, a couple of years ago we installed some Schneider SPDs at a clinic in the countryside that combined types 1–3 for lightning protection 🤷‍♂️
          @stefano @mkj

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          • Uriel FanelliU Uriel Fanelli
            In the first sentence you mention a "data center", but such an attack would not work with a data center, to be one you need to have two buildings with independent power supply, at a safe distance, etc etc. I think this was at best a hosting room, not a data center.
            Snep :floofHappy:S This user is from outside of this forum
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            Snep :floofHappy:
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            @uriel Who officially defines that definition of a datacenter, I wonder?

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            • Stefano MarinelliS Stefano Marinelli

              A few days ago, a client’s data center (well, actually a server room) "vanished" overnight. My monitoring showed that all devices were unreachable. Not even the ISP routers responded, so I assumed a sudden connectivity drop. The strange part? Not even via 4G.

              I then suspected a power failure, but the UPS should have sent an alert.

              The office was closed for the holidays, but I contacted the IT manager anyway. He was home sick with a serious family issue, but he got moving.

              To make a long story short: the company deals in gold and precious metals. They have an underground bunker with two-meter thick walls. They were targeted by a professional gang. They used a tactic seen in similar hits: they identify the main power line, tamper with it at night, and send a massive voltage spike through it.

              The goal is to fry all alarm and surveillance systems. Even if battery-backed, they rarely survive a surge like that. Thieves count on the fact that during holidays, owners are away and fried systems can't send alerts. Monitoring companies often have reduced staff and might not notice the "silence" immediately.

              That is exactly what happened here. But there is a "but": they didn't account for my Uptime Kuma instance monitoring their MikroTik router, installed just weeks ago. Since it is an external check, it flagged the lack of response from all IPs without needing an internal alert to be triggered from the inside.

              The team rushed to the site and found the mess. Luckily, they found an emergency electrical crew to bypass the damage and restore the cameras and alarms. They swapped the fried server UPS with a spare and everything came back up.

              The police warned that the chances of the crew returning the next night to "finish" the job were high, though seeing the systems back online would likely make them move on. They also warned that thieves sometimes break in just to destroy servers to wipe any video evidence.

              Nothing happened in the end. But in the meantime, I had to sync all their data off-site (thankfully they have dual 1Gbps FTTH), set up an emergency cluster, and ensure everything was redundant.

              Never rely only on internal monitoring. Never.

              #IT #SysAdmin #HorrorStories #ITHorrorStories #Monitoring

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              @stefano @tom_tom 🥶😱

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              • Dianora (Diane Bruce)D This user is from outside of this forum
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                Dianora (Diane Bruce)
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                #128

                @stefano @EnigmaRotor Competing with @mwl are we?

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                • Dianora (Diane Bruce)D Dianora (Diane Bruce)

                  @stefano @EnigmaRotor Competing with @mwl are we?

                  Stefano MarinelliS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Stefano Marinelli
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                  @Dianora @EnigmaRotor @mwl I could never compete with the Mentor. He's more of a spiritual guide

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                  • Dianora (Diane Bruce)D Dianora (Diane Bruce)

                    @nuintari @stefano Well, many people make the distinction between on-site backup and off-site archival. Having a local backup for those oops moments that you know about is very handy. Having an off site archive for those fires etc. is being safe. We furiously agree.

                    The Psychotic Network FerretN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    The Psychotic Network Ferret
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                    #130

                    @Dianora @stefano Isn't this what is basically meant by the 3-2-1 rule?

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                    • The Psychotic Network FerretN The Psychotic Network Ferret

                      @Dianora @stefano Isn't this what is basically meant by the 3-2-1 rule?

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                      Dianora (Diane Bruce)
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                      @nuintari @stefano Yes.

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                      • Stefano MarinelliS Stefano Marinelli

                        @Dianora @EnigmaRotor @mwl I could never compete with the Mentor. He's more of a spiritual guide

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                        EnigmaRotor
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                        #132

                        @stefano @Dianora @mwl yep: He Who Must Be Read is obviously untouchable. We have no rights to do that. “touch mwl” would miserably fail, that is.
                        Also note that Stefano’s story does not mention (yet) an overexcited systemd. I don’t see plagiarism in this. Let’s expect an hommage at some point, in pure Hans Zimmer style. /* insert big brass sound sample here */

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                        • Snep :floofHappy:S Snep :floofHappy:

                          @uriel Who officially defines that definition of a datacenter, I wonder?

                          Uriel FanelliU This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Uriel Fanelli
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                          Mostly blueprints from companies like Cisco, IBM, Google, and so on.
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                          • Pedro BufulinP Pedro Bufulin
                            @indyradio @stefano modulating power with pulses? What is that? How does that work? What does it achieve?

                            I have so many questions...
                            Honestly, I know nothing about electrical wizzardry, I went too deep into computer science and never really touched that layer much.
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                            indyradio
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                            @pedro well, there are ways to inject noise that are malicious, that's the short story.
                            I think we need to pay more attention to the security of our electrical connection.

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                            • EnigmaRotorE EnigmaRotor

                              @stefano @Dianora @mwl yep: He Who Must Be Read is obviously untouchable. We have no rights to do that. “touch mwl” would miserably fail, that is.
                              Also note that Stefano’s story does not mention (yet) an overexcited systemd. I don’t see plagiarism in this. Let’s expect an hommage at some point, in pure Hans Zimmer style. /* insert big brass sound sample here */

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                              Dianora (Diane Bruce)
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                              @EnigmaRotor @stefano @mwl Yes mwl was careful not to ravage systemd.

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                              • Dianora (Diane Bruce)D Dianora (Diane Bruce)

                                @EnigmaRotor @stefano @mwl Yes mwl was careful not to ravage systemd.

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                                EnigmaRotor
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                                @Dianora @stefano @mwl Yes, the poor thing was so covered with shame and failures, that an extreme erotization was needed for it to get accepted. Salvage for systemd.

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                                • Uriel FanelliU Uriel Fanelli
                                  Mostly blueprints from companies like Cisco, IBM, Google, and so on.
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                                  @uriel Ah, so they have their own internal guidelines as to what constitutes a datacenter, but there isn't a central definition from some kind of standards body that has coined the term with the requirement to separate buildings with independant power supplies, safe distances etc.?

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                                  • Stefano MarinelliS Stefano Marinelli

                                    @Dianora @EnigmaRotor @mwl I could never compete with the Mentor. He's more of a spiritual guide

                                    Michael W Lucas :flan_on_fire:M This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @Dianora @EnigmaRotor @stefano

                                    Spiritual guide? Your spirits are gonna go somewhere pretty dang weird, sir.

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                                    • Michael W Lucas :flan_on_fire:M Michael W Lucas :flan_on_fire:

                                      @Dianora @EnigmaRotor @stefano

                                      Spiritual guide? Your spirits are gonna go somewhere pretty dang weird, sir.

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                                      Dianora (Diane Bruce)
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                                      @mwl @EnigmaRotor @stefano Was that an offer to buy us all a round of beers at BSDCan? *whistles innocently*

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                                      • Snep :floofHappy:S Snep :floofHappy:

                                        @uriel Ah, so they have their own internal guidelines as to what constitutes a datacenter, but there isn't a central definition from some kind of standards body that has coined the term with the requirement to separate buildings with independant power supplies, safe distances etc.?

                                        Uriel FanelliU This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Uriel Fanelli
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                                        Let's put that way. Some people build datacentres. Some other people don't. The guidelines of people doing it, are little more interesting than the guidelines of people who don't. Is a crazy world, man.


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                                        • Stefano MarinelliS Stefano Marinelli

                                          A few days ago, a client’s data center (well, actually a server room) "vanished" overnight. My monitoring showed that all devices were unreachable. Not even the ISP routers responded, so I assumed a sudden connectivity drop. The strange part? Not even via 4G.

                                          I then suspected a power failure, but the UPS should have sent an alert.

                                          The office was closed for the holidays, but I contacted the IT manager anyway. He was home sick with a serious family issue, but he got moving.

                                          To make a long story short: the company deals in gold and precious metals. They have an underground bunker with two-meter thick walls. They were targeted by a professional gang. They used a tactic seen in similar hits: they identify the main power line, tamper with it at night, and send a massive voltage spike through it.

                                          The goal is to fry all alarm and surveillance systems. Even if battery-backed, they rarely survive a surge like that. Thieves count on the fact that during holidays, owners are away and fried systems can't send alerts. Monitoring companies often have reduced staff and might not notice the "silence" immediately.

                                          That is exactly what happened here. But there is a "but": they didn't account for my Uptime Kuma instance monitoring their MikroTik router, installed just weeks ago. Since it is an external check, it flagged the lack of response from all IPs without needing an internal alert to be triggered from the inside.

                                          The team rushed to the site and found the mess. Luckily, they found an emergency electrical crew to bypass the damage and restore the cameras and alarms. They swapped the fried server UPS with a spare and everything came back up.

                                          The police warned that the chances of the crew returning the next night to "finish" the job were high, though seeing the systems back online would likely make them move on. They also warned that thieves sometimes break in just to destroy servers to wipe any video evidence.

                                          Nothing happened in the end. But in the meantime, I had to sync all their data off-site (thankfully they have dual 1Gbps FTTH), set up an emergency cluster, and ensure everything was redundant.

                                          Never rely only on internal monitoring. Never.

                                          #IT #SysAdmin #HorrorStories #ITHorrorStories #Monitoring

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                                          tkr
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                                          @stefano hi, why havent you posted this into a common blog post?

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