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Web developers: we are going to go out of our way to hide the scrollbars!

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  • Korgie D. 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈K Korgie D. 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈

    @lightspill @rysiek We should also be able to keep them always visible, and control the thickness.

    I totally get why people don't like the look of the scrollbars of the 90s, but that should be an option for those who need that (either due to vision issues, trouble using the newer style, or just personal preference)

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    @korgie @lightspill @rysiek Windows has an accessibility setting to always show scrollbars, and the Registry setting for their thickness is still evaluated, even if the UI is gone.

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    • Emotional Support MonsterL Emotional Support Monster

      @rysiek Honestly I just don’t like scrollbars and turn them off, but, like, I’m the user, I should be able to turn them off. Or on. Webdev (and Desktop Dev, because we’ve somehow regressed to be less capable than Windows 3.1) need to be hit with the User Sovereignty Stick.

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      @lightspill @rysiek hot take: I think CSS that does anything other than organizing the elements on a page simply shouldn't work 🤷‍♀️ If we're being generous, I guess web devs can have background images/colors and text colors, but only after they've proven that they can be responsible

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        @lightspill @rysiek hot take: I think CSS that does anything other than organizing the elements on a page simply shouldn't work 🤷‍♀️ If we're being generous, I guess web devs can have background images/colors and text colors, but only after they've proven that they can be responsible

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        @eletious @lightspill I don't think I agree. I love beautifully designed pages, and I love the genuinely useful functionality CSS can bring to a website without even a line of JS.

        But the way webdevs are abusing CSS *and* JS to make websites effectively unusable is revolting.

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        • Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦R Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

          Web developers: we are going to go out of our way to hide the scrollbars!

          Users: but that makes it difficult to know how much of the text is left to read!

          Web developers: don't worry, we'll add a non-standard UI element that signals this in some non-obvious, weird way!

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          @rysiek yeah, pretty much https://aartaka.me/scrollbar.html

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