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  3. Whether you are in #lawenforcement or #medicine it is imperative that you understand this simple concept: AI engines that write reports will put information in the report that the AI engine thinks is what you want to see in the report.

Whether you are in #lawenforcement or #medicine it is imperative that you understand this simple concept: AI engines that write reports will put information in the report that the AI engine thinks is what you want to see in the report.

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  • Ryan MR Ryan M

    @mcnado The Pitt did a good job highlighting these problems with AI

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    @rpmik I can’t watch it. Jumped off the couch and fled the room. Too damn real.

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    • *|FNAME|*C *|FNAME|*

      @mcnado
      Which begs the question: if you have to go through the output, line by line scanning for errors, is there really an efficiency gain to be had? 🤔

      People being people, there will be corners cut and there will be deaths/false convictions as a result. I just hope that accountability will fall on the people using these tools instead of on the tools themselves.

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      @crispius to actually proofread a note for me would take much longer than writing it.

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      • McNadoMDM McNadoMD

        Whether you are in #lawenforcement or #medicine it is imperative that you understand this simple concept: AI engines that write reports will put information in the report that the AI engine thinks is what you want to see in the report.

        Doesn’t matter if that information is true. Doesn’t matter if the referenced facts or events actually occurred, were discussed, or are present in the record. The engine will “hallucinate” — make it up entirely — whatever the engine decides fulfills the prompt.

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        @mcnado For a while I saw ads on YouTube for AI note-taking apps where the narrator was talking about how they struggled to take notes in meetings and it was so much easier now.

        My view of this was that said narrator needed to learn proper note-taking skills. (One of my duties on my current job is taking notes for meetings related to an esoteric subject in a regulated industry.)

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        • Darth OslerA Darth Osler

          @mcnado *ahem*

          While the lay term may be hallucinate, the precise term is confabulate

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          @autolycos @mcnado

          Thanks for this important correction. As any psychiatrist will agree, a 'hallucination' has a quite specific technical meaning that carries diagnostic weight. The correct term for AI producing nonsense is 'confabulate' which is also a psychopathology with diagnostic implications.

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          • Andi HA Andi H

            @mcnado
            Research papers written by AI contain references (because AI knows it has to include them), but it doesn't know they have to be real references... study analysing 2.5 million papers identified approximately 146,900 hallucinated citations in 2025 alone

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            @AH_99 @mcnado

            Lets be clear - the AI did not 'hallucinate'. It confabulated the invented referrences; no sensory processing mistake occurred. It doesn't (yet) have a sensory system.

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            • drdr6262D drdr6262

              @AH_99 @mcnado

              Lets be clear - the AI did not 'hallucinate'. It confabulated the invented referrences; no sensory processing mistake occurred. It doesn't (yet) have a sensory system.

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              @drdr6262 @mcnado
              Ironically, I remembered the invented references and searched to find the details. I copy pasted the statistics. Damn AI had worded it that way ... I will write out on paper 100 times "I will not copy paste AI results" 😉

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              • McNadoMDM McNadoMD

                Whether you are in #lawenforcement or #medicine it is imperative that you understand this simple concept: AI engines that write reports will put information in the report that the AI engine thinks is what you want to see in the report.

                Doesn’t matter if that information is true. Doesn’t matter if the referenced facts or events actually occurred, were discussed, or are present in the record. The engine will “hallucinate” — make it up entirely — whatever the engine decides fulfills the prompt.

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                @mcnado @samiamsam #AIENSHITIFICATION

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                • drdr6262D drdr6262

                  @AH_99 @mcnado

                  Lets be clear - the AI did not 'hallucinate'. It confabulated the invented referrences; no sensory processing mistake occurred. It doesn't (yet) have a sensory system.

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                  @drdr6262 @AH_99 @mcnado
                  Ai = artificial idiocy.

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                  • drdr6262D drdr6262

                    @AH_99 @mcnado

                    Lets be clear - the AI did not 'hallucinate'. It confabulated the invented referrences; no sensory processing mistake occurred. It doesn't (yet) have a sensory system.

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                    @drdr6262 @AH_99 @mcnado
                    #GenAISlop machines don’t do any of those things, they merely calculate a parametized statistical probability output, based on a vast uncurated corpus, that one character follows another in combination with white spaces in a sequence that is likely to be understodd by a human requesting it. There’s no confabulation, no hallusinations, just a big con job.

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                    • Misuse CaseM Misuse Case

                      @mcnado For a while I saw ads on YouTube for AI note-taking apps where the narrator was talking about how they struggled to take notes in meetings and it was so much easier now.

                      My view of this was that said narrator needed to learn proper note-taking skills. (One of my duties on my current job is taking notes for meetings related to an esoteric subject in a regulated industry.)

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                      @MisuseCase @mcnado 100%

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                      • McNadoMDM McNadoMD

                        Whether you are in #lawenforcement or #medicine it is imperative that you understand this simple concept: AI engines that write reports will put information in the report that the AI engine thinks is what you want to see in the report.

                        Doesn’t matter if that information is true. Doesn’t matter if the referenced facts or events actually occurred, were discussed, or are present in the record. The engine will “hallucinate” — make it up entirely — whatever the engine decides fulfills the prompt.

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                        The actual problem isn't hallucination, it's that the output looks authoritative whether or not it is. A confused human writes a confused sentence. The model writes confident prose either way, and that's what gets the report signed.

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                        • McNadoMDM McNadoMD

                          Whether you are in #lawenforcement or #medicine it is imperative that you understand this simple concept: AI engines that write reports will put information in the report that the AI engine thinks is what you want to see in the report.

                          Doesn’t matter if that information is true. Doesn’t matter if the referenced facts or events actually occurred, were discussed, or are present in the record. The engine will “hallucinate” — make it up entirely — whatever the engine decides fulfills the prompt.

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                          @mcnado

                          It's going on averages and data weights, not at all "thinking" or knowing what's important.

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