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  3. I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.

I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.

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  • Mike Prior-JonesD This user is from outside of this forum
    Mike Prior-JonesD This user is from outside of this forum
    Mike Prior-Jones
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    I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.

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    • Mike Prior-JonesD Mike Prior-Jones

      I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.

      Ian RobinsonI This user is from outside of this forum
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      @drmikepj 😳

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      • Ian RobinsonI Ian Robinson

        @drmikepj 😳

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        @ianRobinson yeah, the town we operate out of is a former military base and still one of the few long-runway airports in Greenland, so it’s an obvious place for military action to occur, heaven forbid…

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        • Mike Prior-JonesD Mike Prior-Jones

          @ianRobinson yeah, the town we operate out of is a former military base and still one of the few long-runway airports in Greenland, so it’s an obvious place for military action to occur, heaven forbid…

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          @drmikepj Grim.

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          • Mike Prior-JonesD Mike Prior-Jones

            I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.

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            ProScience 🇪🇺
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            @drmikepj

            And yet, this was a possible scenario ever since Trump sought the presidential candidacy, long before he got elected.

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            • Mike Prior-JonesD Mike Prior-Jones

              I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.

              DJGummikuhD This user is from outside of this forum
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              @drmikepj being directly threatened by the risk of an ally invading another ally? Not so small beer in my book. Stay safe!

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                @drmikepj

                And yet, this was a possible scenario ever since Trump sought the presidential candidacy, long before he got elected.

                Conny NaschC This user is from outside of this forum
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                @proscience @drmikepj he has eyed Greenland for decades. I just posted this on my site - it is a realistic view not seen elsewhere: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDSzUfMZRHE

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                • Mike Prior-JonesD Mike Prior-Jones

                  I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.

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                  @drmikepj
                  Having assessed the risk, do you now have to outline your plans to mitigate it? That should be interesting.

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                  • P ProScience 🇪🇺

                    @drmikepj

                    And yet, this was a possible scenario ever since Trump sought the presidential candidacy, long before he got elected.

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                    ProScience 🇪🇺
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                    @drmikepj

                    TBH, I'm convinced he wouldn't be anywhere near it if not the Heritage Foundation fascists and the Silicon Valley fascists are actively pushing for it.

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                    • Phil Thane ✅P Phil Thane ✅

                      @drmikepj
                      Having assessed the risk, do you now have to outline your plans to mitigate it? That should be interesting.

                      Mike Prior-JonesD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @pthane yes - basically we’ll cancel the fieldtrip if there’s a US military buildup before we leave the UK, and in any case we’ll make additional arrangements with the university and UK government science officials so people know where we are in case there’s a surprise

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                      • Mike Prior-JonesD Mike Prior-Jones

                        I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.

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                        N0tSure
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                        @drmikepj 55000 inhabitqnts give or take. One mil each = 55 bils. Add another few bils for destabilization and fake whatever. Chump change.

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                        • Mike Prior-JonesD Mike Prior-Jones

                          I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.

                          xs4me2X This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @drmikepj

                          I would, and I’m not to sure about my convention in Vancouver in the summer…

                          It all sounds like a black mirror episode.

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                          • Mike Prior-JonesD Mike Prior-Jones

                            I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.

                            SkyLukeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @drmikepj I am afraid of a world with just one big global power. But Trump is working hard to make sure China rises to that position.

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                            • Mike Prior-JonesD Mike Prior-Jones

                              I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.

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                              @drmikepj

                              The real question is evaluating that risk given it's all at whim, could be good, could be bad, anyway which way the wind blows?

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                              • SkyLukeS SkyLuke

                                @drmikepj I am afraid of a world with just one big global power. But Trump is working hard to make sure China rises to that position.

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                                @SkyLuke @drmikepj

                                I think that in this case, the opposite is true.
                                After ~ 30 years, they woke up to the fact that capitalist greed had created a monster.
                                What we are now witnessing are convulsions in the face of an existential threat!

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                                • DaveT Dave

                                  @drmikepj

                                  The real question is evaluating that risk given it's all at whim, could be good, could be bad, anyway which way the wind blows?

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                                  @trelord75 I don’t need to quantify the risk particularly, but I do need to think about what would prompt me to cancel the trip before departure, or bring everyone home mid-trip. In both cases a military buildup nearby would be a trigger to cancel the trip and go home.

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                                  • Mike Prior-JonesD Mike Prior-Jones

                                    @trelord75 I don’t need to quantify the risk particularly, but I do need to think about what would prompt me to cancel the trip before departure, or bring everyone home mid-trip. In both cases a military buildup nearby would be a trigger to cancel the trip and go home.

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                                    Dave
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                                    @drmikepj

                                    True but given the proximity, how close is enough, what is the range of the assets required to do what they might want to do, be logical is a good starting point, preempt it, long range bombing you may not know, but why would they bomb what they might need, surgical strikes more likely, so watch military movements, ships leaving, where are they going, carriers with required shorter range assets to do the job.

                                    That's what I'd be looking at, no surprises, eliminate the possibilities, or confirm it, and leave.

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                                      @SkyLuke @drmikepj

                                      I think that in this case, the opposite is true.
                                      After ~ 30 years, they woke up to the fact that capitalist greed had created a monster.
                                      What we are now witnessing are convulsions in the face of an existential threat!

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                                      SkyLuke
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                                      @tomala @drmikepj Yes, but instead of trying to evolve they want to make the entire world go back to the past by force. While everyone goes away from fossil fuels, they are invading a nation yet again to get their oil.

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                                      • DaveT Dave

                                        @drmikepj

                                        True but given the proximity, how close is enough, what is the range of the assets required to do what they might want to do, be logical is a good starting point, preempt it, long range bombing you may not know, but why would they bomb what they might need, surgical strikes more likely, so watch military movements, ships leaving, where are they going, carriers with required shorter range assets to do the job.

                                        That's what I'd be looking at, no surprises, eliminate the possibilities, or confirm it, and leave.

                                        Mike Prior-JonesD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Mike Prior-Jones
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                                        @trelord75 I know the typical US military air movements for a normal season (I’ve even flown on some of them, as military aircraft support science projects) and so any OSINT showing ships, helicopters, tanker aircraft or non-transport aircraft in the area will indicate something will happen.

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                                        • DaveT Dave

                                          @drmikepj

                                          True but given the proximity, how close is enough, what is the range of the assets required to do what they might want to do, be logical is a good starting point, preempt it, long range bombing you may not know, but why would they bomb what they might need, surgical strikes more likely, so watch military movements, ships leaving, where are they going, carriers with required shorter range assets to do the job.

                                          That's what I'd be looking at, no surprises, eliminate the possibilities, or confirm it, and leave.

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                                          Dave
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                                          @drmikepj

                                          Also worth noting, the other place is tropical, your destination is ice covered, they need established assets to gain any foothold, if they destroy them then they would have to build, already defeated themselves if they do that.

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