Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (Darkly)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Brand Logo
  1. Home
  2. Uncategorized
  3. All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Uncategorized
33 Posts 21 Posters 0 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • K-ZO da SnowmanK K-ZO da Snowman

    @Netraven @akareilly to support this point; Biden and congress sent money to cops, money meant to upgrade schools' ventilation and filtration. Cities happily received that money. It always comes down to culture and power.

    And I do believe we can change the culture and take the power.

    (Edited to change my mis-remembering of the fund distribution)

    NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
    NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
    Netraven
    wrote last edited by
    #21

    @kzodasnowman @akareilly

    Without getting into specifics, I’m responsible for ensuring life-safety compliance in one narrow area of school operations. Last year in California, Governor Newsom approved a $13 billion bond for school upgrades. I can tell you this much: I’ve been to nearly every school from Los Angeles to the Mexican border, and they desperately need the funding.

    So did that money actually reach schools? And how would anyone really know?

    Schools don’t plan for maintenance. There is effectively no maintenance budget. When money does get spent, it’s usually on major capital upgrades that have been in motion for years. Those projects are designed with the assumption that bond funding will be available, because that’s how the system has always worked. Voters assume their money is going somewhere, or they may not realize that a school bond is really a 30-year property tax levy. It’s not “government funding.” It’s the public paying directly.

    By the time projects go out to bid, a bond holder ultimately decides whether major upgrades happen at all. Since it’s cheaper to omit proper life-safety systems, those elements are often quietly removed at the last minute. Responsibility is pushed downhill until it lands with a subcontractor, who is expected to do the work without objection... or not get paid. Even the state DSA is either complicit or completely disconnected from reality. Either way, they’re ineffective.

    In the end, there are no real checks or balances. No one is truly watching. This is why it keeps happening. Schools have effectively become glorified real-estate managers who also happen to oversee children.

    K-ZO da SnowmanK 1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • NetravenN Netraven

      @akareilly As someone who has spent a lifetime working inside the system, genuinely trying to do good, and being consistently punished for it, I can tell you this: if it weren’t AI, it would be something else. The problem isn’t the technology. It’s that there is never real investment in what’s actually needed. Even when requirements are written into law, or when problems are merely complex rather than impossible, the system learns how to route around them. Compliance becomes performative. Safety becomes fictional.

      Industry, capitalism, and the people who steer them are optimizing very effectively, but in the wrong regime. A system oriented toward sustainability and durability would prioritize clean air in schools, hospitals, and public transit; renewable energy; and supply chains built on fair wages and genuinely safe working conditions. The fact that we don’t see this isn’t an accident or a failure of execution. It’s evidence of what the system is truly optimizing for: end-of-horizon exit optionality, not long-term human well-being.

      JohnJ This user is from outside of this forum
      JohnJ This user is from outside of this forum
      John
      wrote last edited by
      #22

      @Netraven @akareilly

      The joke's on them, though: there *is* no end-of-horizon exit optionality in global ecological collapses, and 2 sq mile bunkers don't work if nobody will work for you.

      NetravenN dingodogD 2 Replies Last reply
      0
      • JohnJ John

        @Netraven @akareilly

        The joke's on them, though: there *is* no end-of-horizon exit optionality in global ecological collapses, and 2 sq mile bunkers don't work if nobody will work for you.

        NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
        NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
        Netraven
        wrote last edited by
        #23

        @johnzajac @akareilly

        well yes, of course. We know this because we're still in contact with reality. The people we're talking about have replaced contact with reality with symbols that become load-bearing instead. If you want to test which symbols are load bearing, just test which one shuts down conversation when mentioned.

        JohnJ 1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • NetravenN Netraven

          @johnzajac @akareilly

          well yes, of course. We know this because we're still in contact with reality. The people we're talking about have replaced contact with reality with symbols that become load-bearing instead. If you want to test which symbols are load bearing, just test which one shuts down conversation when mentioned.

          JohnJ This user is from outside of this forum
          JohnJ This user is from outside of this forum
          John
          wrote last edited by
          #24

          @Netraven @akareilly

          Fascism is all about symbols and aesthetics replacing substance, and the real trick is realizing we've been living under fascism and borrowing from previous eras of substance for most of the last 50 years.

          NetravenN 1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • JohnJ John

            @Netraven @akareilly

            Fascism is all about symbols and aesthetics replacing substance, and the real trick is realizing we've been living under fascism and borrowing from previous eras of substance for most of the last 50 years.

            NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
            NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
            Netraven
            wrote last edited by
            #25

            RE: https://hear-me.social/@Netraven/116010753140279169

            @johnzajac @akareilly

            I wrote about this recently but my brain is too tired to summarize.

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • Wren ReillyA Wren Reilly

              All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

              We could have avoided the high death toll of COVID and prepared for the next pandemic.

              Instead we get even shittier code, abuse images, far-right bots, dodgy tech in healthcare, and even more precarious state of things for artists.

              Quincy ⁂Q This user is from outside of this forum
              Quincy ⁂Q This user is from outside of this forum
              Quincy ⁂
              wrote last edited by
              #26

              @akareilly

              The slop industry is pure evil.

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • Wren ReillyA Wren Reilly

                All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

                We could have avoided the high death toll of COVID and prepared for the next pandemic.

                Instead we get even shittier code, abuse images, far-right bots, dodgy tech in healthcare, and even more precarious state of things for artists.

                The DoctorD This user is from outside of this forum
                The DoctorD This user is from outside of this forum
                The Doctor
                wrote last edited by
                #27

                @akareilly We are not allowed to have anything nice.

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • NetravenN Netraven

                  @kzodasnowman @akareilly

                  Without getting into specifics, I’m responsible for ensuring life-safety compliance in one narrow area of school operations. Last year in California, Governor Newsom approved a $13 billion bond for school upgrades. I can tell you this much: I’ve been to nearly every school from Los Angeles to the Mexican border, and they desperately need the funding.

                  So did that money actually reach schools? And how would anyone really know?

                  Schools don’t plan for maintenance. There is effectively no maintenance budget. When money does get spent, it’s usually on major capital upgrades that have been in motion for years. Those projects are designed with the assumption that bond funding will be available, because that’s how the system has always worked. Voters assume their money is going somewhere, or they may not realize that a school bond is really a 30-year property tax levy. It’s not “government funding.” It’s the public paying directly.

                  By the time projects go out to bid, a bond holder ultimately decides whether major upgrades happen at all. Since it’s cheaper to omit proper life-safety systems, those elements are often quietly removed at the last minute. Responsibility is pushed downhill until it lands with a subcontractor, who is expected to do the work without objection... or not get paid. Even the state DSA is either complicit or completely disconnected from reality. Either way, they’re ineffective.

                  In the end, there are no real checks or balances. No one is truly watching. This is why it keeps happening. Schools have effectively become glorified real-estate managers who also happen to oversee children.

                  K-ZO da SnowmanK This user is from outside of this forum
                  K-ZO da SnowmanK This user is from outside of this forum
                  K-ZO da Snowman
                  wrote last edited by
                  #28

                  @Netraven @akareilly I believe you 100%. Oakland Unified School District was lead poisoning children! The article maps the lead crisis perfectly onto your structure. It reminds me of the phrase "maintenance is civilization" https://oaklandside.org/2025/08/01/oakland-unified-schools-haphazard-response-lead-water-crisis/

                  NetravenN 1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • K-ZO da SnowmanK K-ZO da Snowman

                    @Netraven @akareilly I believe you 100%. Oakland Unified School District was lead poisoning children! The article maps the lead crisis perfectly onto your structure. It reminds me of the phrase "maintenance is civilization" https://oaklandside.org/2025/08/01/oakland-unified-schools-haphazard-response-lead-water-crisis/

                    NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
                    NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
                    Netraven
                    wrote last edited by
                    #29

                    @kzodasnowman @akareilly and jesus fucking christ... the Association of California School Administrators have a name for what happens to kids in their school system. "The School-to-Prison Pipeline" They use it openly at their $1000 a plate fundraisers (so they can pay big time speakers to come and say nice leadership words to them and pat them on the back).

                    Meanwhile Compton School District has a private army of "School Security" which are each as heavily armed as any ICE agent if not more so. M14's don't fucking belong in schools, and if someone thinks they do, more security isn't the solution.

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • Jérémy PagèsJ Jérémy Pagès

                      @akareilly Median age for covid deaths is over 80 years old, so there is not much to be done here.

                      What could have been avoided are the dire economical and social consequences of covid craziness.

                      su_liamS This user is from outside of this forum
                      su_liamS This user is from outside of this forum
                      su_liam
                      wrote last edited by
                      #30

                      @jpages @akareilly What craziness? Be specific.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • JohnJ John

                        @Netraven @akareilly

                        The joke's on them, though: there *is* no end-of-horizon exit optionality in global ecological collapses, and 2 sq mile bunkers don't work if nobody will work for you.

                        dingodogD This user is from outside of this forum
                        dingodogD This user is from outside of this forum
                        dingodog
                        wrote last edited by
                        #31

                        @Netraven @akareilly @johnzajac haha, joke's on you! They don't mean real end-of-horizon, they just mean their own exit horizon. They plan to sell before it all hits the fan!

                        Then somehow all that currency will protect them when the climate collapses. Maybe they will eat it, I don't know.

                        JohnJ 1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • dingodogD dingodog

                          @Netraven @akareilly @johnzajac haha, joke's on you! They don't mean real end-of-horizon, they just mean their own exit horizon. They plan to sell before it all hits the fan!

                          Then somehow all that currency will protect them when the climate collapses. Maybe they will eat it, I don't know.

                          JohnJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          JohnJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          John
                          wrote last edited by
                          #32

                          @dingodog19 @Netraven @akareilly

                          I'm sure they'll buy all their food with their crypto wallets when climate disasters destroy society

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • Wren ReillyA Wren Reilly

                            All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

                            We could have avoided the high death toll of COVID and prepared for the next pandemic.

                            Instead we get even shittier code, abuse images, far-right bots, dodgy tech in healthcare, and even more precarious state of things for artists.

                            PepperTheVixen ΘΔP This user is from outside of this forum
                            PepperTheVixen ΘΔP This user is from outside of this forum
                            PepperTheVixen ΘΔ
                            wrote last edited by
                            #33

                            @akareilly We could have made things so much better. We could have better accessibility. We could have better infection awareness. Instead some criminal is making a buck. This was a choice made by the elite. They chose to allow millions to die to fuel their technofeudalist empire. The suffering is the point. People like bezos and musk and zuckerberg and altman are complicit in this disaster. They are criminals and murderers

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • MarianneN Marianne shared this topic
                            Reply
                            • Reply as topic
                            Log in to reply
                            • Oldest to Newest
                            • Newest to Oldest
                            • Most Votes


                            • Login

                            • Don't have an account? Register

                            • Login or register to search.
                            Powered by NodeBB Contributors
                            • First post
                              Last post
                            0
                            • Categories
                            • Recent
                            • Tags
                            • Popular
                            • World
                            • Users
                            • Groups