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  3. Hey Canadians, remember how when you heard about Project 2025, and then saw it being implemented, you wondered why US citizens had been - and continued to be - in denial?

Hey Canadians, remember how when you heard about Project 2025, and then saw it being implemented, you wondered why US citizens had been - and continued to be - in denial?

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    Hey Canadians, remember how when you heard about Project 2025, and then saw it being implemented, you wondered why US citizens had been - and continued to be - in denial? Because the propositions were right there? Here's what hawks in the USA are publicly strategizing:

    In a strategy of the retrenchment, the dismemberment of Canada becomes a wise decision. Rather than allowing it to continue down a path of anti-American antagonism, the United States could support the Alberta and Quebec separatist movements. A successful secession by Alberta alone would cripple the federal fisc, and drive separatism in other regions due to the resultant decline in their equalization payments which comprises such a substantial part of their provincial budgets. In the end, British Columbia and a unified Maritime province would be admitted to the Union as Democratic states while Alberta and Saskatchewan would be admitted as Republican states; ensuring continued balance in the US Senate.

    The rump of Canada, left with only one or two provinces, would finally be able to revise its constitution with ease. Under US pressure, the rump could become a freely associated state similar to Palau, with a new constitution reordering society along American lines. In time, perhaps it too could be annexed.

    The United States can no longer afford to dismiss Canada as a benign neighbor

    Archive.org link that doesn't give the author traffic or your info:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20250914052455/https://defenseanalyses.org/work/our-canadian-problem/

    #Canada #CDNPoli #BCPoli #QCPoli #ABPoli #MBPoli #SKPoli

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      Hey Canadians, remember how when you heard about Project 2025, and then saw it being implemented, you wondered why US citizens had been - and continued to be - in denial? Because the propositions were right there? Here's what hawks in the USA are publicly strategizing:

      In a strategy of the retrenchment, the dismemberment of Canada becomes a wise decision. Rather than allowing it to continue down a path of anti-American antagonism, the United States could support the Alberta and Quebec separatist movements. A successful secession by Alberta alone would cripple the federal fisc, and drive separatism in other regions due to the resultant decline in their equalization payments which comprises such a substantial part of their provincial budgets. In the end, British Columbia and a unified Maritime province would be admitted to the Union as Democratic states while Alberta and Saskatchewan would be admitted as Republican states; ensuring continued balance in the US Senate.

      The rump of Canada, left with only one or two provinces, would finally be able to revise its constitution with ease. Under US pressure, the rump could become a freely associated state similar to Palau, with a new constitution reordering society along American lines. In time, perhaps it too could be annexed.

      The United States can no longer afford to dismiss Canada as a benign neighbor

      Archive.org link that doesn't give the author traffic or your info:
      https://web.archive.org/web/20250914052455/https://defenseanalyses.org/work/our-canadian-problem/

      #Canada #CDNPoli #BCPoli #QCPoli #ABPoli #MBPoli #SKPoli

      datum (n=1)D This user is from outside of this forum
      datum (n=1)D This user is from outside of this forum
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      If you read this you might note some things:

      • Pierre Trudeau smiling, in black and white with a white flower in his lapel as the header, and only, image
        • this is a dogwhistle to "Pierre Trudeau was gay and Castro begat Justin", a right-wing conspiracy theory
      • "saying it out loud", like

      people to act as community representatives – whether they be women, from an ethnic community, LGBT, etc. [...] This prevents the Canadian government from identifying subversive efforts

      and

      anti-Trump and pro-Trudeau Muslims in CSIS

      • repeatedly expressing affront that Canada might put Canadian interests ahead of USA interests, or - heaven forbid! - that we obey international law and fulfill our obligations:

      in the mid-2000s. The Canadian government, true to its highly legalistic worldview, refused to enter the war despite the United States’ request as it did not have the blessing of the United Nations. While it dissipated somewhat during the Conservative Party government of Stephen Harper, it returned with a vengeance under Justin Trudeau.

      • repeated and repeated insistence that the "traditional" and natural relationship is animosity:

      Canada is returning to its traditional posture as a threat to the US, rather than as a friend. The security ties which we have developed with Canada over the past few decades are transforming from assets into liabilities.

      and

      Canada, not to be born until 1867, was conceived as the anti-America

      and so on

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        Hey Canadians, remember how when you heard about Project 2025, and then saw it being implemented, you wondered why US citizens had been - and continued to be - in denial? Because the propositions were right there? Here's what hawks in the USA are publicly strategizing:

        In a strategy of the retrenchment, the dismemberment of Canada becomes a wise decision. Rather than allowing it to continue down a path of anti-American antagonism, the United States could support the Alberta and Quebec separatist movements. A successful secession by Alberta alone would cripple the federal fisc, and drive separatism in other regions due to the resultant decline in their equalization payments which comprises such a substantial part of their provincial budgets. In the end, British Columbia and a unified Maritime province would be admitted to the Union as Democratic states while Alberta and Saskatchewan would be admitted as Republican states; ensuring continued balance in the US Senate.

        The rump of Canada, left with only one or two provinces, would finally be able to revise its constitution with ease. Under US pressure, the rump could become a freely associated state similar to Palau, with a new constitution reordering society along American lines. In time, perhaps it too could be annexed.

        The United States can no longer afford to dismiss Canada as a benign neighbor

        Archive.org link that doesn't give the author traffic or your info:
        https://web.archive.org/web/20250914052455/https://defenseanalyses.org/work/our-canadian-problem/

        #Canada #CDNPoli #BCPoli #QCPoli #ABPoli #MBPoli #SKPoli

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        @datum these people can't handle quebecers. They lose their shit over US leftists. They would have a meltdown.

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          If you read this you might note some things:

          • Pierre Trudeau smiling, in black and white with a white flower in his lapel as the header, and only, image
            • this is a dogwhistle to "Pierre Trudeau was gay and Castro begat Justin", a right-wing conspiracy theory
          • "saying it out loud", like

          people to act as community representatives – whether they be women, from an ethnic community, LGBT, etc. [...] This prevents the Canadian government from identifying subversive efforts

          and

          anti-Trump and pro-Trudeau Muslims in CSIS

          • repeatedly expressing affront that Canada might put Canadian interests ahead of USA interests, or - heaven forbid! - that we obey international law and fulfill our obligations:

          in the mid-2000s. The Canadian government, true to its highly legalistic worldview, refused to enter the war despite the United States’ request as it did not have the blessing of the United Nations. While it dissipated somewhat during the Conservative Party government of Stephen Harper, it returned with a vengeance under Justin Trudeau.

          • repeated and repeated insistence that the "traditional" and natural relationship is animosity:

          Canada is returning to its traditional posture as a threat to the US, rather than as a friend. The security ties which we have developed with Canada over the past few decades are transforming from assets into liabilities.

          and

          Canada, not to be born until 1867, was conceived as the anti-America

          and so on

          ItsDoctorNotMrsN This user is from outside of this forum
          ItsDoctorNotMrsN This user is from outside of this forum
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          @datum

          Where are you reading these anti-Canada comments?

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          • datum (n=1)D datum (n=1)

            If you read this you might note some things:

            • Pierre Trudeau smiling, in black and white with a white flower in his lapel as the header, and only, image
              • this is a dogwhistle to "Pierre Trudeau was gay and Castro begat Justin", a right-wing conspiracy theory
            • "saying it out loud", like

            people to act as community representatives – whether they be women, from an ethnic community, LGBT, etc. [...] This prevents the Canadian government from identifying subversive efforts

            and

            anti-Trump and pro-Trudeau Muslims in CSIS

            • repeatedly expressing affront that Canada might put Canadian interests ahead of USA interests, or - heaven forbid! - that we obey international law and fulfill our obligations:

            in the mid-2000s. The Canadian government, true to its highly legalistic worldview, refused to enter the war despite the United States’ request as it did not have the blessing of the United Nations. While it dissipated somewhat during the Conservative Party government of Stephen Harper, it returned with a vengeance under Justin Trudeau.

            • repeated and repeated insistence that the "traditional" and natural relationship is animosity:

            Canada is returning to its traditional posture as a threat to the US, rather than as a friend. The security ties which we have developed with Canada over the past few decades are transforming from assets into liabilities.

            and

            Canada, not to be born until 1867, was conceived as the anti-America

            and so on

            ItsDoctorNotMrsN This user is from outside of this forum
            ItsDoctorNotMrsN This user is from outside of this forum
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            @datum

            Apparently the Trump government offered a $ 500,000 USD loan to Albertan separatists. I don't know if they approached Québecseparatists.

            Yes, I'd say they're advancing in their plans.

            It behoves Canadians to take them seriously and prepare.

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