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  • BandanaBugB BandanaBug

    Literally the second commandment:

    2 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.

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    agent641@lemmy.world
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    "You shall not make for yourself..."

    That means it's ok to just buy it, or you can make them and sell them. So long as you don't make one and keep it for yourself.

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    • N NaibofTabr

      You know how we tell the story about brutally murdering the Son of God? We want to put that on display, all the time, in His House, so He never ever forgets.

      God is love!

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      bampop@lemmy.world
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      No wonder Jesus hasn't come back. We never miss a chance to remind him of what happened last time

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      • D daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com

        Catholicism lore and practices are actually pretty metal if you think about it.

        Carry a figure of the dying tortured son of god in a little chain on your neck. Nailed to a cross, speared through the chest, and with a fucking spine crown.

        Spikes and a skull tattoos have NOTHING on Catholic paraphernalia.

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        kestrel7_7@lemmy.world
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        This is Known. Goth fashion is basically a very involved parody of what Catholic aristocrats used to wear (this is why you get all the “sexy nun” stuff too)

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        • A abominable_panda@lemmy.world

          White Jesus from the middle east

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          technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Portraying people from the middle east as european helps to normalize zionism.

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          • B barneypiccolo@lemmy.today

            No, it clearly says: "You shall not make...", and then adds the reason at the end. It seems God doesn't even want you making it for any reason, because you might use it to worship. Banning images eliminates the temptation.

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            forkdestroyer@infosec.pub
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            I'm not sure that's the interpretation that Catholics go with, and I don't think they idolize the statues they make. Either way the qualifier, as I'm reading it, is that they make the thing to worship the thing.

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            • P prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone

              Let's not forget that he's the one that invented the rules that allegedly required such a stupid and convoluted plan.

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              twodogsfighting@lemdro.id
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              And is also omnipotent and allknowing.

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              • A agent641@lemmy.world

                "You shall not make for yourself..."

                That means it's ok to just buy it, or you can make them and sell them. So long as you don't make one and keep it for yourself.

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                MinnesotaGoddam
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                also you can build them out of clay. ain't nothing about fired images

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                • T twodogsfighting@lemdro.id

                  And is also omnipotent and allknowing.

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                  MinnesotaGoddam
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                  and bland and flavorless and crumbly

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                    jankatarch@lemmy.world
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                    Isn't actual reason they don't want anyone worshipping the prophet?

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                      Religion is given far too much respect in the world when it needs to be treated as a mental disorder.

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                      • S skyezopen@lemmy.world

                        Then literally eat his flesh and blood in a ritual to commemorate his death.

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                        monkemischief@lemmy.today
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                        literally

                        Literally tho?

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                        • F forkdestroyer@infosec.pub

                          The passage clearly says about defending, in the context of war.

                          Could this be interpreted as in any type of war, and not just a defensive war? It doesn't seem clear to me via the english translation.

                          And also not to exceed the limits, which means proportionate response.

                          Could this not also mean the limits interpreted through other passages elsewhere in the Scripture?

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                          jankatarch@lemmy.world
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                          Tldr: Actual historians go over these verses.

                          Verses of quran were (according to Islam) told by God to prophet over his life-time on what to do in different events.

                          For example Quraysh tribe just declared war on muslims? This verse comes out. They agreed a peace deal? Another verse. They continued raiding anyway despite the peace? A new verse, etc.

                          Historians will publish research on which verse maps to what event and then Imams will use that to chose what to preach and when.

                          "We got declared war? Do this. We have ceasefire? Do that. They are not followng the ceasefire? Now do these."

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                          • MrNobodyM MrNobody

                            Religion is given far too much respect in the world when it needs to be treated as a mental disorder.

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                            Mags at Large
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                            @MrNobody This! Yes! Religious "beliefs" fill the mind with confused, illogical thoughts not tethered to the world as it is. This fuzzy thinking is not benign.

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